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‘Elizabeth, Elizabeth, Just Breathe!’ The View’s Whiner Mad at Health Care Reform

Tuesday Mar 23, 2010 – by

Elizabeth Hasselbeck is mad. Should we be surprised? After the historic Health Care reform bill passed, the ladies of “The View” discussed the news on Monday in usual form during the show’s “Hot Topics.” Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg had to calm Elizabeth, asking her to breathe. When Whoopi brought up the disrespectful oppositional rants occurring during the proceedings, like yelling and spitting, Elizabeth decided to bring up alleged “bribery and bullying” claiming that several elected officials were shut out.

Elizabeth goes on to suggest that the majority of Americans didn’t want Health Care reform this way, referring to the structure of the legislation. Sherri Shepherd interrupted asking, “I don’t know who they’re talking to. A lot of people wanted Health Care reform who couldn’t get insurance.”

You may say, ‘who really cares what Hasselbeck thinks?’ But how many angry Americans does she represent? There are millions of Americans who live below the poverty line or recently unemployed who will now have reasonable access to health coverage because of this victory. Why are people really mad?

14 Comments – Add Yours

  1. Drew-Shane says:

    sometimes I feel bad for her because she’s always by herself. normally she can hold her own, I don’t know what happened this time. she is so Republican Anti-Obama it makes me sick. I need some balance.

    HEALTHY CITIZENS!!

  2. Jeremy says:

    Obamacare: Taxing The American People Into Oblivion

  3. Jeremy says:

    H.R. 3590, The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, to give it its full title, is rammed full of tax increases which will further economically cripple Americans already laboring under the worst financial crisis since the great depression.
    The partnering Reconciliation Act, currently in the Senate, also contains a raft of pork barrel and tax hikes, there to fund the trillion dollar cost of nationalizing medicine.
    As reported by Bloomberg News today, analysis by the nonpartisan congressional Joint Committee on Taxation reveals that the bill will generate $409.2 billion in additional taxes by 2019.
    In addition, the Congressional Budget Office states that the bill also levies almost $69 billion more in penalties for those who fail to meet mandates to buy insurance.
    The Journal of Accountancy boils down some of the tax hikes and penalty fees in H.R. 3590 and the Reconciliation Act – the highlights include:
    Excise Tax on Uninsured Individuals – Individuals who fail to maintain minimum essential coverage will be subject to a penalty equal to $750. The fee for an uninsured individual under age 18 is one-half of the adult fee.
    Excise Tax on High-Cost Employer Plans – The federal government would impose a 40% tax on the value of employer-sponsored health coverage exceeding certain thresholds. Those levels are projected to be $8,500 for self only and $23,000 for any other level by the year 2013. This excise was announced with fanfare by the White House and labor unions in January and remains in the final bill.
    Increase in additional tax on distributions from Health Savings Accounts and Archer Medical Savings Accounts not used for qualified medical expenses – An increase from 10% to 20% on taxes of money in a health savings account not used for qualified medical expenses. For Archer medical savings accounts, an increase from 15% to 20%.
    Additional Hospital Insurance Tax on High-Income Taxpayers – High income tax payers, making on a joint return over $250,000 and a standard return over $200,000, are required to pay an additional 0.5% of wages. This applies to both self-employed, and regularly employed individuals.
    Fees on Health Plans – A fee applied to all health insurance providers based upon net premiums and any third party fees associated with the administration of those programs. The fees will total $6.7 billion annually. This figure begins at $8 billion in the Reconciliation Act and rises to $14.3 billion by 2018.
    Tax on Indoor Tanning Services – The act imposes a 10% tax on amounts paid for indoor tanning services. Like a sales tax, the tax will be collected from the person tanning when payment for the tanning services is made.
    Business Insider boils down 15 more tax hikes here – highlights include:
    Tax on individuals without acceptable health care coverage – A 2.5% income tax on individuals who do not have health care coverage, limited to a cost less than the average national health care premium.
    Excise tax on elective cosmetic medical procedures – A tax of 5% is levied upon the am mount paid for any cosmetic surgery. This does not include the need for such surgeries created by trauma or a disfiguring disease. If the tax is not collected by that professional completing the procedure, their business is still liable for the requirement.
    The Reconciliation Act also legislates for the following surcharges: 1% surcharge on individuals making more than $350,000, 1.5% surcharge on individuals making more than $500,000, 5.4% surcharge on individuals making more than $1 million.
    Yet more tax provisions in the bill are highlighted by INvestors Business Daily in their piece titled 20 Ways ObamaCare Will Take Away Our Freedoms – highlights include:
    Taxes On Employers – If you are a large employer (defined as at least 101 employees) and you do not want to provide health insurance to your employee, then you will pay a $750 fine per employee (It could be $2,000 to $3,000 under the reconciliation changes) (Section 1513).
    Taxes on Pharmaceutical Companies – The government will extract a fee of $2.3 billion annually from the pharmaceutical industry (Section 9008 (b)).
    Taxes on medical device manufacturers – The government will extract a fee of $2 billion annually from medical device makers (Section 1405).
    A D V E R T I S E M E N T

    As a candidate and President, Barack Obama has had one core message for middle class Americans: I won’t raise your taxes.
    By putting his name to the health care reform bill today he has swiftly put to bed any pretence that he would uphold that pledge (multi-trillion dollar bailouts aside).
    While the new taxes on individuals are bad enough, the penalties imposed on pharmaceutical corporations, health insurers and employers are will inevitably serve as a double whammy as the hikes will undoubtedly be passed on to the general public in the form of higher costs.
    “Simply, you have nationalized healthcare by proxy.” writes Jonah Goldberg of the LA Times.
    “Insurance companies are now heavily regulated government contractors. Way to get big business out of Washington! They will clear a small, government-approved profit on top of their government-approved fees. Then, when healthcare costs rise — and they will — Democrats will insist, yet again, that the profit motive is to blame and out from this Obamacare Trojan horse will pour another army of liberals demanding a more honest version of single-payer.”
    “The Obama administration has turned the insurance industry into the Blackwater of socialized medicine.” Goldberg concludes.
    A swift dose of propaganda is sure to silence some critics. However, if the softly softly approach fails, the myriad of new taxes and regulations contained in the Obamacare bill will be aggressively enforced by no less than 16,500 new “combat trained” IRS agents armed to the teeth with shotguns, who will also closely scrutinize Americans’ income tax returns and be waiting to pounce should they find evidence of anyone trying to avoid paying for mandatory government health care.
    Even if you agree with socialized health care in principle, the fact is that this will only benefit the insurance companies who wrote it. Meanwhile millions of Americans will be subjected to more taxation, harassment, and oppression at the hands of a federal government run amok. An out of control leviathan, hell-bent on an agenda to control every aspect of your life, as they lay in wait to exploit the momentum achieved through the passage of Obamacare by ramming through nightmare cap and tax levies to further financially castrate already beleaguered Americans

  4. Jeremy says:

    Obamacare To Be Enforced By Armed Thugs

    If the health care bill was such a positive act of reform, as establishment Democrats and the corporate media are pitching it, then how come it needs to be enforced by means of coercion at the hands of thousands of armed IRS thugs?
    That was the context of the discussion during Ron Paul’s appearance on Fox Business’ America’s Nightly Scoreboard last night, as the Congressman continued to speak out against the tyrannical nature of Obamacare.
    Paul emphasized the need to protect the private option in health care as a fundamental right for all Americans not to be reliant on the government for their services.
    “During this debate they talked a whole lot about the public option, I just wish they would protect the private option, give us a chance to have it private, just like you should have a chance to have private education, home schooling, you should always protect that….if you always had a private option in medicine some of us could survive and at least we could set an example for the type of medicine that the people should be getting,” said the Congressman.
    Host David Asman pointed out that it would now be illegal to have private health care and that people would be forced to buy insurance under the constant glare of the 16,000 plus new IRS agents being hired to harass people into compliance to the new program.
    Under Obamacare, $10 billion dollars is allocated to pay for 16,500 IRS agents who will collect and enforce mandatory “premiums.”
    Paul said that the people who previously needed to carry the least insurance would now be forced to carry the maximum, and be hounded by the IRS as a result.
    “This is a command society now and medicine is right at the forefront of this….16,500 armed bureaucrats coming to make this program work – if it was a good program and everybody liked it, you wouldn’t need 16,500 thugs coming with their guns and putting you in jail if you didn’t follow all the rules,” said Paul.
    The Congressman highlighted the fact that people don’t trust the government’s record on social programs, pointing out that Medicare, Medicaid and the Post Office are all bankrupt, and that the majority of Americans have little confidence in Obamacare being any different.
    Paul said there was a chance parts of the bill would be overturned if Republicans were victorious in November, but that the biggest threat to the legislation was the probability that the entire system would collapse, labeling Obamacare a “Horrendous new burden that we have placed on the economy.”

  5. Diasporique says:

    She’s so embarrassing and really feeds into the negative/ignorant stereotype of Republicans. How can any individual in their right mind try to justify hate speech?? Elizabeth Hasselbeck, of course, somehow manages to find a way. She’s so absurd.

  6. J.G. says:

    Oh I think she should continue her wild rantings. It makes her look like the nut she and those like her really are.

    3.8% on their stock, sends them into a frenzy. Wow. Hilarious!

  7. Angela says:

    Hmmm…aren’t most Republicans painted as poor white trash, redneck, back-of-the-woods, potential KKK-members? So wouldn’t they, as people below the poverty line, benefit from this health care plan?

    *justplayingdevilsadvocate*

  8. Clnmike says:

    Im pissed with Obama and the Dems as well this bill didnt go nearly far enough! True it will force insurance companies to accept people with pre-existing conditions, stop them from eliminating buyers who get “too sick”, allow kids to stay on their parents healthcare longer, and will lower prices for prescription meds for seniors. But it is not single payer and it is not a public option, the penalties for insurance compaines violaiting the rules are nothing but loose change to them, and to top it off it’s a mandate to get it with the same devils who as we speak are looking to find loop holes in it. I cant trust the Dems to revist the bill and add on to it, it was pulling teeth just to get this far. This bill is a half full half empty glass depending on your perspective.

  9. Todd Michaels says:

    clearly the bill did not go far enough to truly protect America’s health. But it’s a start. Also, President Obama, was able to accomplish something that no other President (all white mind you) has been able to. That in it’s self hurts the sole of many republicans.

    The real story here is watching the unraveling of white supremacy and white people not knowing how to deal with an equal playing field. White privilege or what I like to call the “white subsidy” is now on the verge of unwinding. It is unconscionable for this country to let it’s citizens die (40K per year) because of no coverage while being rape by the insurance companies in excess of 20-30% per year. We’re the only industrialized nation in the world to allow this to happen because poor white Americans can’t stand to see their equally poor black/brown brothers and sisters getting equal treatment by the aristocracy. Seeing all of the hate (spitting on black elected officials, hurling bricks through their office windows) is just a honest depiction of the satanic evilness that exist in many of “those” people. Elisabeth Hasselbeck is nothing more than a mainstream apologist for these hate filled people of whom is one of. Good will always win……….that’s biblical.

    This quote explains exactly why poor white Tea Party people hate the passing of health care for all.

    Dr. King – “The Southern aristocracy took the world and gave the poor white man Jim Crow, And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than a black man.”

  10. Todd Michaels says:

    Tim Wise breaks it down best.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08FRQWPWRdU

  11. That woman is an idiot. What she failed to realize is that she can be angry with the healthcare decision. I think the other woman didn’t care about that, the issue was that she and other Repubs use “issues” as excuses for racisim and classisim.

    You can disagree with someone without using a racial slur. Idiots, buttheads, a-holes, come in all different colors. Slurs are meant to hurt a specifc people.

    Republican’s fail to get any respect from me because they never discuss the issues or state facts, they just cluck, and cluck and cluck. They may have a vailid point, but all that noise they spew is offensive.

    The health care bill has holes, it’s not perfect by any means, but it is a start. What are the altenatives? What other ideas are on the table?

  12. ericka says:

    well, i think some are not happy with it, because in the end, it WILL effect the prices of private insurance, a lot of people are still going to be stuck in the middle, either government insured(and believe me, that is NO FUN, or More expensive health plans, which puts everybody back in the same boat. I would have liked to have seen current health care premiums go down, to be more affordable, esp. for the average middle income family who do not make enough to be on government ins. and who do not make enough to afford private ins. for their whole family. I honestly hate government ran insurance…speaking from experience!

  13. Deloris says:

    I feel that this bill is a start in the right direction it is better than hoping that things will get better or waiting it out. I suggest that everyone reads the entire bill for themselves instead of relying on other people’s talking points. I have read it and I find that when discussing this bill with most they are uninformed or rely on talking points from whomever they follow or support. If you read the bill for yourself it’s far better than regurgitating what others have said about this bill. http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3590/show

    As for Hasselbeck I think her passionate discourse creates a balance. However I disagree with her most of the time and wish that she would move to Fox news where she could be better appreciated. I must admit it is called the view for a reason though and I respect that she has differing views than I have. Hahaha woah that took alot for me to say that, but I mean it.

    Angela, I think it’s best to say someone like Sarah Palin for instance should support this law. Due to the fact that her son has down syndrome and under this law he can no longer be denied based on pre-exsisting conditions.

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  15. Tricia says:

    I’m betting Mrs. Hasselback has pretty good insurance. Prominent Republicans in Congress and the media that are crying bloody murder probably do as well. That’s why I don’t take them seriously…how can you talk about how we don’t need health care reform when you HAVE insurance?
    It’s not the healthcare reform we want…but it’s what we NEED right now. We have to start somewhere.

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