Elvis Presley was not the originator of rock ‘n’ roll. That would be Chuck Berry. Vanilla Ice’s “Ice Ice Baby” is said to be the first hip-hop song to top the Billboard charts (others argue it was “Rapture” by Blondie). Justin Timberlake went from the pop sensation group ‘N Sync to the soulful singing White boy with swag. My point? America has always capitalized off of Black culture. Kreayshawn, the new White girl rapper, is only the latest byproduct.

Her government name is Natassia Toloz. Complex magazine reported the 21-year-old Oakland native is rumored to have signed a $1 million dollar record deal with Sony Music. The petite, sometimes blonde, sometimes brown-haired rapper, sparked buzz with her hit single “Gucci, Gucci” totaling over 2 million views on YouTube. Like Soulja Boy, she’s young, an Internet sensation and plans on parlaying her popularity into a full-blown rap career. She has denied the rumored record deal, but admits she has been in talks with Sony Music. Whether the ink is already dry or not, she will get a deal.

Kreayshawn (pronounced Cri-shon), possibly a play on creation, is the leader of her squad White Girl Mob. Vigilantly watching her video for the first time, I thought, ‘Is it possible for me to be intrigued, humored and disgusted at the same time?’ The huge gold doorknocker earrings. Her asymmetrical bob cut. Her homegirl rocking a similar cut, but with blonde streaks. The tats, the vernacular, the black dude entourage passing her a blunt. I hoped it was satire, while knowing it wasn’t.

Backed by Odd Future, homies with Lil B and co-signed by Snoop Dogg, I knew a record label executive somewhere saw dollar signs within 30 seconds of watching her. The novelty of a mainstream White female rapper has been nonexistent. It was only a matter of time before a vested interest arose to capitalize off such a rarity. But White rappers are not some new phenomenon. Eminem is arguably one of the best lyrical emcees in the game, Black or White.

White rappers aren’t the problem. Exploitation of Black culture is.

Black culture is diverse with various meanings; and how one defines Black culture varies from individual. In the case of Kreayshawn, I’m referring to her misinterpretation of what she thinks Black culture and hip-hop is.

One could argue she is exactly what hip-hop has become–gimmicky, devoid of substance, whack, the glorification of a street life, sexualized and talentless. If that’s the case, is she appropriating Black culture or just a part of a watered down genre?

I don’t believe for one second her image is authentic. It is one derived of the stereotypical “sister girl” trope we’ve seen time and time again. Understand, I’m not arguing whether “sister girl” actually exists. I’m not even arguing that the “sister girl” is to be shunned. But Kreayshawn’s image, how she carries herself, her lyrics are all derivative of her very limited view of Black culture.

Beside her lack of creativity, the fact that she’s garbage on the mic, the inauthenticity of her persona is unnerving. A Berkley Film School dropout, allegedly from the hood, has found her niche in hip-hop. Perhaps her posturing is homage of sorts to what she grew up seeing. And this is what she believes she must imitate to gain credibility in hip-hop.

But with artists like Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, and B.o.B., isn’t there now a space in hip-hop that exists for rappers to just be themselves without the need for street credibility? Or a trumped up, unoriginal “sister girl” image? I guess we haven’t reached a point where female emcees are afforded the privilege of not having to be either “hood” or sexy.

It’s ironic how the White girl mimicking Black culture has been viewed as quirky, cute, and interesting in the past. But sisters who fashionably rock bamboo earrings, gold nameplate necklaces, and blonde streaked weaves, will inevitably be considered “ghetto” by society. It’s equally problematic that every female emcee post Queen Latifah and MC Lyte who has had massive mainstream success all had to sell sex. Kreayshawn, on the other hand, is able to avoid an over sexualized image because of her whiteness.

It goes without saying that most people don’t take issue with talented White artists excelling in genres Blacks created. We’ve certainly supported artists like Robin Thicke, Amy Winehouse and Eminem. I’d imagine that support was gained from them creating good music and not selling a gimmick.

Clearly I’m not Kreayshawn’s targeted audience, and I’m totally opposed to spending money on a White artist who loosely drops the n-word in casual conversation. My being unimpressed, however, does not negate her following. If only she had gained a following through actual talent, opposed to capitalizing off of a genre and culture she obviously doesn’t care to understand.

Kreayshawn’s existence within hip-hop is a reflection of the very aspects we self-proclaimed hip-hop heads find problematic. She is a result of a genre that was forever changed once America realized there was a huge opportunity to capitalize off of a global influential culture. Kreayshawn, artists like her, and those who co-sign them are all culprits in the auctioning off of our culture to the highest bidder.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/secretaddy secretaddy

    OMG !! she’s awful , ridiculously awful.

    So now I shall say smth about this article.

    I agree . Appropriation of black culture is horrible. The gimmicks, the media training on what is an acceptable performance of a rapper BUT

    I am concerned that what she is mimicking is simply commercialized hip hop garbage that which is not within the power of black ppl. To explain, I blve that for smth to be considered black culture is must have black origins, black participation and some form of control by those that originated and participate(d) within it. Umm hip hop as it is conveyed by the media is unoriginal, inauthentic, hyperviolent and is mostly contrived by white audiences. Thinking about this further, I blve she is right up her alley. She is imitating the mold that has been carved out by white consumers who may not understand the complexity and versatility of hip hop, the only difference is that she is not male and black. So her inauthenticity is more obvious, unlike the Rick Ross’ who have to wait till their Correctional officer pics are released.

  • Gabi

    that hurt my eyes and my ears…

  • Samantha W.

    I don’t care that she’s white or that she has a gimmick, but I do care about how bad that song is. If she was some great rapper then maybe I could find some way to come to her defense, but she’s terrible. She really sounds like all these other rapping children with these trendy and awful songs. I’ll stay listening to my old school while the kids eat this up. Maybe I’m just to grown for this shit now.

  • chanela

    i mentioned this in a comment on the “ghettofication of black hair” article. its so messed up how a black woman does ANYTHING and its ghetto but when white women do it then its cute and justified .ughhh wth!

  • http://twitter.com/NostalgiaDeVoce Thandiwe

    Absurd. Not my aesthetic, nor what I find acceptable from a “sister girl”. Call it bourgeois, old school etc etc.

  • Gigi Young

    I’m curious to see if this girl takes off. Asher Roth got the same amount of hype two years ago, but all of that died quickly since black folks never took to him (which is so funny–no matter how much they bump black rappers in their cars, white consumers still like their entertainment packaged in white bodies, yet, they look to black folks to see what’s “cool”).

  • http://twitter.com/prplqueen TruSpeaks

    What frustrates me most is knowing the label could have spent $1million on someone with talent. Also know one is getting $1million signing contracts any more. White privilege at it’s finest again.

    I really enjoyed this article specifically you did an excellent job supporting your opinions with facts and examples. One of the comments you made that I whole heartedly agree with and find most disturbing is “It’s equally problematic that every female emcee post Queen Latifah and MC Lyte who has had massive mainstream success all had to sell sex. Kreayshawn, on the other hand, is able to avoid an over sexualized image because of her whiteness.”

    Above all I think the proof is in the pudding if anything I feel this chick will be a fad.

  • Alexandra

    Ok, I think her song sucks. I’m just a bit annoyed it seems her race is more of an issue. I understand the stereotypes and double standards, but really? She won’t be the last. And as misunderstood as it is, Black culture can’t be placed in one box. I also think, thats one part of ‘black culture’ a lot of people would like to see go away. (ex: hood, ghetto, rims, etc;) It just looks like she’s having fun with a stereotype & her use of the N-word doesnt rile me up. She also has a mixed crew to back her use of the word. But I’d be really shocked if she got a record deal though. She’s bad.

    There was another rapper (also white female) that was better than her. I don’t know her name though, but there was also a Clutch article on her.

  • Domino

    I’m just confused why this not even mainstream white female rapper has everyone’s panties in a bunch.

  • Nire

    Wow.. this was just awesomely bad. Why would someone want to pollute their ears with this kind of music. (Sigh) Well it’s official real music is long gone.

  • Tomi-chan

    I know right? Watch this racial haterade make her EVEN MORE famous. It’s not like mainstream rap is doing much better than her lol. Has anyone listened to Nicki’s lyrics?

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    Yeah, Kreayshawn (or whatever the hell her name is) is definitely is appropriating hood culture (I don’t say black because our culture is a mish-mash of different lifestyles). However, my main beef with this wigger reject is that she’s a bit too comfy with using the N-word, which is not cool or the move. Someone needs to check that fool.

    And yeah- the video is god awful. Whoever told ol’ girl she can rap lied to her big time.

  • http://changecomesslow.com Nikesha

    I’m insulted.

  • minna k.

    This has been done before. This too shall pass.

    I didn’t hear her say N**** in this song, but i am not exactly looking through the archives to catch her either. I’m really not trying to poison my spirit.

    Just a note, not a ONE sista up in that video. A whole MESS of young brothas nodding their heads like this is the best sh**, one white hipster/hillbilly dude, and her white girl squad.

    Shiraz is correct about her appropriating “hood” culture. I am black and have NEVER dressed hood in my whole life, my mom’s would have knocked my teeth out.

  • Jennifer

    I don’t like the song. If she was good then I don’t really care what gimmick she uses to stand out, they all use some gimmick or the other. I am bothered she is getting attention solely on her “whiteness” not on any measurable talent.

  • char

    All these comments make me laugh. WE let music get to this point. How many of us were flying with our inivisible cape when Solja Boy (sp? i really could care less what his name is) was telling us to “Superman that ho”? This is another fad and if we leave her alone she’ll go back to being a local chick. I mean if we need to get down on the nitty and the gritty when someone calls us Ghetto just tell em no, I’m black. Defend the creativity that is your ghetto if you’re so tired of it. Defend who you are and call out those who try to do the same to you. But because we allow the cute lil white girls to take the shine and glory we can’t really complain can we?

  • Jennifer

    I noticed that as well. I didn’t watch the video closely, but there were no noticeably black, Asian, or Hispanic women in the video.

  • http://twitter.com/Cr0wnRoyalOnIce That Chick Named Dee

    I had to stop watching the video 10 secs into it…what a shame…

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    That’s because she didn’t use the N-word in her video. It was on her twitter page —-> http://clutchmagonline.com/2011/05/white-girl-rapping-kreayshawn-drops-%E2%80%9Cgucci-gucci%E2%80%9D-and-the-n-word-all-in-one-day/

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    I think my original comment was eaten or something…But yeah, she didn’t use the N-word on the video, she said it on her twitter page. Clutch had an article about that a couple of weeks ago.

  • http://twitter.com/LEATHERBERRY Danielle Gracewood

    This hate is atrocious. NOBODY hates this hard when a black rapper spouts the same type of basic lyrics and superficiality. Nobody hates this hard when a black rapper is referring to a woman as a C U Next Tuesday all throughout his song (Please see tyler the creator’s most recent song “She”). This chick grew up in Oakland in a predominantly black neighborhood. She has lots of black friends, her mother was in a punk band and she’s been on a mic since she was five…it would be fake for her not to be wearing the stuff she wears or speak the way that she does. Do we expect for a girl with her upbringing to act like typical Becky Sue, when nothing about her adolescence lended itself to that? All i’m saying is, if you’re gonna hate, hate mainstream rap in general, because its artists, black and white, perpetrate the stereotypes. Its easy to target the white girl, but I thought we were off that.
    Furthermore, how and why are we still classifying rap music as “just a black thing?” Yes. Preserving black culture is important and it sucks that white people get props for the things black artists have been doing for decades, however, rap music can and should be appreciated by any demographic.

  • http://AirInDanYell.tumblr.com Erin

    “One could argue she is exactly what hip-hop has become–gimmicky, devoid of substance, whack, the glorification of a street life, sexualized and talentless.” <== THIS = "Kreayshawn", Soulja Boy, and Lil' B. It's no surprise they all hang out together… they all make horrible music and are all nothing but ignorant, talentless gimmicks with major marketing plans, and people (Black, White, Red, Yellow, Green, and/or Blue) continue to eat each one of them up. Like Char said, "WE" (not necessarily all of us but a large mass of people) have created this problem and we've let money hungry record execs take the BS and run with it. The best thing we can continue to do is ignore these pests until they disappear and go back to where they came from… but thanks to the Internet, that might be difficult. The only thing that I do like about Kreayshawn is that she is a video producer, which a lot of women aren't doing that much of, and she's pretty good at it. She should stick to that and totally avoid rapping.

    Sidenote: Also, her friend V-Nasty from the "White Girl Mob" is the one that uses "Nigga" like it's nothing. Check out the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxNSEjfBSo8

  • Jenell

    *yawn*

  • D-Chubb

    I felt out of it for not being up on those Odd Future boys. I know they’re supposed to be the shiznit, but there was something about them I just wasn’t buying. Now, I understand. Anybody, who would back this garbage has nothing to contribute to the future of hip hop, they’re just in it for the $$$. (The only people who’ve been so gaga over these boys are the white music press, anyway.) And Snoop Dogg, boy has he fallen dowwwwn into the depths of Steppin Fetchit-dom.

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    She didn’t say the N-word in the video, but she did on her twitter page…Clutch had an article about that a couple of weeks ago. I’m kinda too lazy to dig it up though, lol…

  • puhhlease

    havn’t listnd 2 the video or whatever but i just hate how other cultures always have somethin 2 say about blacks n hip hop culture but turn around and listn 2 the music, dress like the artists, and then are in movies where their rappin and bustn a move.. i can’t stand that.. like get outta here w/that.. ur tryn 2 hard..

  • http://www.dashofreality.wordpress.com Dash

    Is this a joke?
    This question was asked when Soulja Boy and LIl B and co. came out as well. Still waiting for confirmation that this is, in fact, a sick joke.

  • Lizzy

    Just a disclaimer, I’m not a fan of this chick BUT:

    1. The picture on the Clutch homepage is not of her, it’s of the second girl in the video 2. Her name is definitely pronounced “Creation” 3. After attending college in the Bay Area, I can say that I don’t think her image is a gimmick. There is a particular culture there where racial lines are blurred and you find a lot of white people who you might accuse of appropriating black culture. It would take too long to explain this phenomenon, and I’m not discrediting the fact that at the end of the day, non black people are borrowing from black people in Northern California, but I am saying that it’s not as simple as accusing her of being inauthentic.

    What I’m most surprised about is the fact that the author of this article didn’t mention her frequent use of the word “n*gga.

  • WoW

    Lady Gaga goes HipHop!
    Funny as hell…
    Go back2school…

  • CocoCaramel

    Amen!

  • http://windmillperception.wordpress.com/ Trudy

    This is nothing new. Whether someone is talented or mediocre, the sheer fact of either embracing or mimicking Black culture is met with an applause often larger than what is deserved. Many Black (and White) people seem to think it is “flattering” (there goes that word I loathe again) that someone White would dare step “down” and embrace something that is Black. Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake, Jon B, Adele, are all talented. But some of the praise they receive and the worship seems larger than even their talent and always juxtaposed to someone Black as for how it “should be.” There’s always a little (or a lot of) White supremacy in everything, even Black music.

    Two powerful statements in this post:

    “One could argue she is exactly what hip-hop has become–gimmicky, devoid of substance, whack, the glorification of a street life, sexualized and talentless. If that’s the case, is she appropriating Black culture or just a part of a watered down genre?”

    The correct answer is both. Heh.

    And:

    “It’s ironic how the White girl mimicking Black culture has been viewed as quirky, cute, and interesting in the past. But sisters who fashionably rock bamboo earrings, gold nameplate necklaces, and blonde streaked weaves, will inevitably be considered “ghetto” by society.”

    Well…but of course. Black women are always on trial daily for their thoughts, words, looks and actions. Everyone knows that.

    Of course any artist has a right to a career. I just wonder why is it chosen in this manner. 2011 and a lot has changed but very little has changed.

  • copelli21

    Wow, I think it’s a shame that sistas with real skills can never seem to get the backing to rise to the superstar level in hip-hop like the guys do and here comes this white girl with this “schtick” and she’s off to the races.

    Never ceases to amaze me, the twisted thinking….

    Good article.

  • anony

    A bunch of garbage.. I can’ feed my soul with this music. I want the 90′s back! lol

  • terra

    “Furthermore, how and why are we still classifying rap music as “just a black thing?” Yes. Preserving black culture is important and it sucks that white people get props for the things black artists have been doing for decades, however, rap music can and should be appreciated by any demographic.”

    where in the article did it say rap is just a black thing? who in the comments has suggested that? i believe the author mentioned rappers like eminem who get mad respect for his craft. no one cares that she’s a white rapper. people care ’cause she’s a) trash & b) her image ain’t real. it’s a contrived ass stereotypical image of a Black woman.

    why are folks supposed to bow down & praise her? ’cause she’s a white girl rapping? there are several talented female mc’s who don’t get the shine that lil’ krey krey is getting. this ain’t about not wanting a white rapper to be apart of hip-hop. it’s about doing it well & with some type of respect for the craft. not by being a fake hood chick mimicking a stereotype of a black woman.

  • minna k.

    Thanks shiraz. I don’t want to read it. I will piss myself off royally. I remember the article.

  • JerseyBred323

    I’d rather listen to Eternia. Skills. Flow. Lyrics. Period.

  • minna k.

    Just her stage name alone “Kreayshawn” is some hipster-ironic, racist, tongue-in-cheek play on popular African American names and you know it. There is no way her mother gave her that name from birth. I see it as one example of blatant disrespect on her part. I don’t care how many black male “friends” she has on Facebook.

  • http://www.shelahmarie.com Shelah Marie

    I don’t know. I don’t know this artist on a personal level, but I feel like some of her aesthetics and image choices come from a place of relationally and lived experience. There are white people who live in the hood too, there are white people who rap and manipulate their image similar to Kreayshawn. I think that delineating her sound and image as having “authentic” roots only in blacknesss is a at the same time saying the opposite, no? Like music on the other spectrum, maybe acoustic, mellow stuff (not sure what the opposite would really be), but isn’t that kind of like saying white people created that — we created this, stay in your lane?

    I am fully aware and agree with you about white artists appropriating black’s music, etc for profit, but I’m not so sure about this one.

    Again, great article Ms. Viera

  • http://lovelyladythoughts.wordpress.com Niesha

    This article strikes me as angry and hating. Would it be appropriation if it was the other way around? Are musicians like Alice Smith, Santogold, or Tracy Chapman appropriating “white music” ? I’m not so sure if Kreaysawn is faking it or whatever? I lived in Oakland for three years and I am here to tell you, Oakland is hooder than hood. Besides that, the bay area has a very melting pot type of feel to it. Mainstream rap isn’t doing any better nowadays. The Common’s and Talib Kweli’s of the rap game are few and far between. I find nothing wrong with what this girl is doing.

  • sli

    “It’s equally problematic that every female emcee post Queen Latifah and MC Lyte who has had massive mainstream success all had to sell sex.”

    Lauryn Hill didn’t. She had MASSIVE mainstream appeal, and all of her music is still relevant today. She hardly ever cursed, didn’t talk about sex, only said n***a and/or b***h a few times.

  • http://www.shelahmarie.com Shelah Marie

    Word.

  • http://twitter.com/carriemartha carriemartha

    I agree with Lizzy that this is complicated. I’m a black woman with a white mother and an Oakland native. (How come white people never disclose on comment boards, tho? Just sayin.)

    On other posts about Kreayshawn, there are tons of comments of co-signing black people and O natives saying she grew up in the deep east and she is “legit.”

    I can only imagine that If I were the only white girl in the hood, and probably got called “that white girl” all my life, that I’d end up with an identity similar to Kreayshawn’s.

    OR maybe the whole thing is a put on. I have no idea.

    The problem comes in when she leaves the deep east for the rest of the world — now she is not the one spunky white girl in the hood, she is being made a hero for white girls in their pink victoria’s secret sweat pants and ugg boots in their bedroom community suburbs, girls who will be the first to call a black girl ghetto and a white girl with the same behavior “cute” or “original,” as the writer so aptly points out.

    I get frustrated with Identity politics sometimes, because in the end, everyone’s idea of what makes it ok for a person to claim a certain identity, or how different identities (whether perceived or claimed) privilege or disadvantage someone is so different.

    It’s not as simple as “white skin = not ok to do/wear anything associated with black culture” in my mind, but for some people it is.

    That said, I want to draw the line somewhere, because careless and disrespectful appropriation is rampant and not cool. Gwen Stefani and Madonna seem like clear examples of people who need to cut that shit out.

    Basically, I’m confused, and my jury is out on Kreayshawn. I do like the idea of “swag pumpin out my ovaries” and also the fact that she dresses kinda andro. It’s not her fault she’s allowed to be genderqueer and black girls aren’t. She did seem to slip a little to easily in and out of hood/white girl speech patterns in a video I saw, but then again, I’m a code switcher too…

    Love
    Carrie

  • vanessa

    this is what white people do to all races.. steal their original ideas,replay them and take all the credit
    you should see this blog started by a native american called
    “my culture is not a trend” its quite sad but oh well thats white people

    http://mycultureisnotatrend.tumblr.com/

  • Thandiwe

  • fuchsia

    uugggghhh… o_O this chick looks and sounds like a modern day slave. I’m not impressed. I can see how she might have a following though. There are plenty of people who will buy into the gimmick. Every white chick I know from the bay wanna be down.

  • Nik

    Perhaps if she at least had some talent, we (read: black people) could see past what those outside of the Bay area would see as pandering. Boil all that ish down, close your eyes, listen to the song and you’ll hear that bottom line: she’s whack.

    #movingon

  • sli

    Lol, she’s trying way too hard.

  • mluv

    From MY perspective, she’s IS NOT original because her style, beats, title of the song and lyrics/lyrical style is something we’ve all heard/seen before. I don’t listen to many hip-hop songs from today because of this same reason. Same shit, different person. Music in general has just become a recycled trend. SHE USES THE N-WORD? hmm not surprising. I don’t use that word myself, and despise of those who do, but I can’t control what comes out of peoples mouths. How else do you think she got? From the black folks that do use it. And your saying its not as simple as calling her unauthentic? she isn’t, and its not JUST HER, its MANY of these so-called rappers in the industry.

    From one end, it could her managers, publicist or whoever pushed for her to have that look. Because its all about money. And maybe this gansta/”souljah boy” style sells. Question is why do people purchase and crave something that looks stupid, and isn’t even new? to me it gets boring after a while… subjectivity I guess..

  • iQgraphics

    is someone coming to get my “black card” ?
    I am in no way offended by this little white girl playing dress up and getting paid.
    What offends me is that every lil wayne song… ALL OF THEM, disrespects black women.
    All we are to the BIGGEST RAPPERS right now are cu_ receptacles. We tolerate that and support it. We encourage it, we pay for it and subsequently he is number 1…
    Here’s what’s offensive

    http://youtu.be/PU9c0j4iOtw

    http://youtu.be/g2nmgcVbfKE

    We have too much work to do in our own damn yard before we go policing other people’s yards
    I mean for real!

    #movingon

    #cosign @Nik

  • http://twitter.com/suntwee MarieSaSamba

    I’ll be the first to admit most of these LA artists coming out of the “Based movement” (Lil B, Kreashawyn, Odd Future, etc) have nice beats that sound good with the bass turned up. That’s like at least 70% of the appeal. They keep their lyrics short and absurd to make sure the audience focuses more on the sound than the lyrical content, which is kinda what signed mainstream artists do already. It’s just these artists are being more upfront about it. But, as much as I love a good youth counterculture movement as much as the next twenty-something, this is a step in the wrong direction. In one way, they’re simply exploiting and appropriating blackness (aka swag). In the other way, it’s like they’re parodying today’s mainstream hip-hop. The problem is I’m not sure if they’re consciously or unconsciously doing this…?

  • B

    “Her government name is Natassia Toloz.” LMAO. That cracked me up, for some reason. I might be back with a substantial comment, but that stopped me just now. :)

  • http://youtube.com/kingeljen dr. rich blackman aka kingELJEN DFS

    kreayshawn is from the bay area, oakland ca – and although to outsiders this young ladies swag seems unusual- in northern california we, for a long time, havent had the very outdated old school categories – and the prerequisite “rules” that go along with that-the rules i guess kreayshawn is breaking just b/c she isnt acting like a white person “should”

    for instance//i bet a person you see on the street with eyeglasses and a tie is a nerd based on your reflexive categorizing your mind does automatically(which is normal to a degree, we all categorize things and people we see as we go about in the world as a defense mechanism) as a result though, if that “nerd” doesnt talk like your mind assumes it should, something is wrong-and thats lame. people are all kinds of different ways b/c we all grew up differently. in the bay asians and latinos call themsemves nigga more than blacks almost not to make fun but its b/c they arent racist (their family might have came to the usa after civil rights and the kkk, they dont know about the old school slave master saying NIGGER… they just heard the word nigga being used as a term amongst homies and picked it up like we all pick up slang.

    sadly this talk about kreayshawn revolves around her and her a couple of her homegirls being white. its sad b/c i feel it means that the average american has a very very narrow view of people of other races and how they should act (thats not cool b/c us black people dont like being pigeonholed either). its also sad b/c that view stems simply from not being around other races that much, admittedly the Bay Areas diversity is unique and i thank god im from here b/c of discussions like this THAT ARE FKING SILLY.

    what im trying to say is this chick is accually a very authentic hood chick from the bay, where we arent divided by race and we all grow up together either poor middle class or rich, often time all of those socioeconomic groups intermingling b/c of the size of the bay. and folks from here are not trippin on her race. this discussion i bet is amongst everyone from everywhere else.

    MOST IMPORTANTLY and finally, do you really think all the black people in her videos and that she works with including the outspoken Odd Future crew and Snoop Dogg himself would hang around a fraud who is trying to make fun of black people? if you think those artists are that stupid and that Kreayshawn is so sly that these serious musicians with their reputations always at stake dont know when a fraud is around you are a conspiracy therorist from the 60s or something so EITHER GO BACK THERE OR GET WITH THE PROGRAM AND STOP BASING YOUR STRONG HATEFUL SWAGGERLESS OPINIONS ON NOTHING BUT ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON SURFACE OBSERVATIONS LIKE RACE.
    i mean its funny that we expect to be treated as a unique individual but never assume that the next person is as unique as we think we are.

    big up to my DEAD FOREST SOCIETY crew and BIG UP KREAYSHAWN . #SWAG

  • http://www.thebeautifulstruggler.com Jamilah Lemieux

    Excellent piece. What bothers me most is the lack of Black girls in her crew (and the fact that they are calling themselves White Girl Mob). If she had a diverse crew of women that included some sisters, I would still be uneasy, but not full out offended. Yet, she wants to appropriate our steez, kick it with Black men and leave us out of the equation when she wouldn’t have a record deal or a buzz without us. It’s like we’re some sort of kitchy joke and everyone gets to laugh but us.

  • http://www.windowsexproject.com Sydnie

    Actually the most striking thing to me about this video was the juxtaposition of white women with black men. So we all now that hip hop is male dominated. We also know that for black women in this day and age it seems like the only way they can get on in hip hop is if they are selling sex (i.e. nicki minaj).

    These chicks aren’t selling sex – they instead are selling girl power (“i got swag comin’ out my ovaries”), BUT at the expense of black culture – specifically black women (to get back to the author’s point about seeing a black girl dressed the same way being immediately deemed ghetto).

    If this is truly the way they came up in Oakland where white girls are hood too, why don’t we see any black female peers who they jacked the style from? Why is this specifically the White Girl Mob? Right now all I see is two white chicks passing blunts with black dudes whose presence co-signs their validity as authentic hip hop. Further, the few white men we see in the video aren’t of this hip hop persona the white women have taken on — so is that “so hood” Oakland style only applicable to white women?

  • http://www.urbanadornments.com urbanadornments

    corny!

  • boho.barbie

    I agree and this is also true with African culture. Although I am AA and do not know my specific African roots, I embrace and claim my Africaness and try to learn all I can about it. It sickens me to see this latest trend of people wearing African/Native American/Asian/Indigenous clothing and prints from other cultures because it’s now “hip/trendy” and do not know or care a dag on thing about what they are wearing. Particularly after ethnic minorities in this country have been ostracized and criticized from wearing clothing related to their homeland and shamed into assimilating to “the great American way.”

  • SRenda

    @dr. rich You had me at least considering some of what you said here, until you mentioned Snoop Dogg. To me, Snoop Dogg really does not concern himself too much if not at all with postive images of black people. He’s in it for the money and uses that Doggy nose of his to sniff out hoes and dollar signs plus he’s trying to give another fellow Cali rapper some love. So from an ethical standpoint, his opinions are irrela from a dollar sign standpoint, his opinions can lead to gold bricks for this young white female rapper. But, how many young black female rappers from the Bay Area or Inglewood has he ignored? to be honest when Eminem came on the scene years ago, with “My Name Is” or whatever its’s called I thought it was okay but I was fascinated because Dr. Dre was in the video and even produced his whole album. Which was a brilliant move on his part beacuse as we all know the rest is history. But a white rapper with appeal is unusual and can go a lot more places possibly than a black one. Anyway, at least Eminem truly had lyrical, poetic talent as well as other levels to him and also the ability to think (at times) critically before he opened up his mouth. He also had enough respect to honor the complicated, troubled history of the black and brown shoulders he stood on by refusing (once he became famous) to use the N-word in his songs or publicly. I’ve spent a little time in the Bay Area and seen/experienced some of the racial dynamics, there and know that other cultures don’t necessaily use the word, “nigga” the way it was originally intended and that yes it can be a term of endearment but I think I can respect Eminem’s position on the N-Word and would appreciate it if other white rappers would follow his lead.

  • Mikele

    I’m from Oakland and involved in our burgeoning music scene. She’s genuine. I know her friends, cohorts and manager. They’re authentic. When I saw the video there was no question in my mind about that. We don’t really allow “impostors” or what have you in the Bay. Growing up in Oakland (the most diverse city in America) everyone is influenced by everyone else, it’s impossible not to be. The entire city of Oakland is not hood but we have our areas. She clearly is from one of those areas. I don’t know anyone who is not a product of their environment in some form or fashion and for her to be gaining success right now only makes me proud.

    And if she wAS a fraud why are we so quick to want to claim being hood as “ours”?

  • B

    First, the lack of black girls in this video disproves any possibility that this wannabe homegirl is actually “hood” in the hip-hop sense. I don’t care what anyone has to say about Oakland. I know FAKE when I see it.

    Secondly, I wasted three minutes of my life listening to that dumb ass song.

    Thirdly, while we’re hating on old girl (and trust me, I co-sign all the hating here because it is warranted), her lyrics aren’t any worse than Nicki Minaj’s. Minaj is no less moronic and no more talented than this chick, in my opinion but we give her the pass for some reason.

    Finally, this girl is an indication of how f-ed up rap music and hip-hop has become in general these days. The only good stuff out there is practically impossible to find, with a few exceptions. I agree with another commenter: we need to worry about the popularity of disgusting folks like Lil Wayne (and even Kanye, considering his latest album), roll our eyes at this chick and move on. She’s not worth the time, and writing about her will only give her more undeserved PR.

  • http://music.mckswift.com M.C. K~Swift

    @Lizzy, the article DID mention her use of the N-word.

  • AshleyMonique

    “I thought, ‘Is it possible for me to be intrigued, humored and disgusted at the same time?’… I hoped it was satire, while knowing it wasn’t.” → My sentiments EXACTLY! I’m over this kind of exploitation and even disrespect of Black Culture, by non-black people.

  • Clnmike

    This piece comes off as hate, the girl hasn’t dropped a real album yet and her style has a retro feel to it one that black people don’t even rock anymore. She is following in the exact foot steps of the women before her, how is singled her out and yet a pass is given to Em and Robin Thicke? She is as talented as the rest of the women out here.

  • http://twitter.com/LEATHERBERRY Danielle Gracewood

    Exactly. *Like*

  • noname

    wow – is everyone really mad because she’s wearing doorknocker earrings, hanging out w/black dudes, and smoking a blunt? cuz that’s not MY black culture…

    also no one was mad at MIA when she came out with the same ‘gimmick’ style… but i guess cuz she’s brown-skinned it’s ok?

  • http://twitter.com/LEATHERBERRY Danielle Gracewood

    @Terra : The title suggests that rap is just a black thing. “Another case of appropriating black culture” in other words “another case of taking black culture.” The author is saying that Kreayshawn’s presence in the rap world, given her appearance and demeanor, is unwarranted, presumably because Kreayshawn has taken [read: stolen] stereotypical bits and pieces from black and hip hop culture. Within the criticism of Kreayshawn, the author is implying that hip hop culture = black culture, and consequently that rap is a just black thing.

    This is just my line of logic. I’m curious to know how you interpret it. Perhaps I’m missing a side of it.

  • ActuallyAuthentic

    I really could care less about her nonsense rap, but the fact that talentless hacks like Lil B cosign her & her Klan of devils use of the word ‘nigger’ is unnerving.

  • http://twitter.com/LEATHERBERRY Danielle Gracewood

    @terra @minna k. And I’m curious as to why you both automatically think that she is being fake? I mean you don’t know where this girl is from, or who she grew up with and yet you automatically think she is throwing up a façade? Do both of you assume a black person acting like Paris hilton is fake too? Why is it that white people can’t be just as versatile in their style as black people?

    @minna k. She’s had that stage name since she was a child. Since she was on a track with her mother as a kid. Her real name is Natassia…are you gonna criticize her mom for that too? Is that name too black for a white girl?

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    *shrugs* i like kreayshawn

    come gargle my swag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmfao

  • Zeni

    Uhm, what? “Black culture?” This implied exclusivity stop being so decades ago. Hip-Hop has spread to a world-wide culture, no need for “black” artists to perpetuate this “black culture.” Sorry to break it to you, but hip-hop has transcended race in the real world, perhaps not in people’s minds.

  • http://[email protected] ross

    you’re right women belong in the kitchen.. i agree with what the author said :)

  • Domino

    You can not even compare this girl to MIA. MIA is hella original with her own sound. You always know an MIA beat. She is not a gimmick. She’s quite the revolutionary for Sri Lankans and talks about the ill of her society.

  • Domino

    I agree with Cinmike, yall are some serious haters. Black artists have been appropriating black culture for how many years now? and I aint eva seen this kinda uproar.

  • noname

    i’m not talking about beats or lyrics… a lot of this article focuses on the visuals, the way she looks and who she’s with.

  • damidwif

    indeed

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    lol you should have seen the comments on the last Kreayshawn thread. i had people on there essentially telling me this girl was a nobody who was never going to be famous. now look at this

  • Toygirl

    Whack! Is she serious?! I know teenagers will listen to just about anything these days but this takes the cake, lol! Has nothing to do with color…she just sounds whack!

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    interesting point, noname… especially considering the fact that MIA adopted her entire persona after attending film school and beginning to identify with hip-hop and dancehall culture… that was definitely NOT the environment she grew up in, it was merely the platform she chose to use. is that not ‘appropriating Black culture?’

  • apples (bb)

    This song is crap. She looks like Lady Gaga’s little sister.

  • blanca

    Man, y’all are reaching with this article, for real.

  • blanca

    I feel you. Oakland is really one of the most diverse places in America. Most of the folks on this thread would probably never step foot in the Murder Dubs (where she’s from) to really check if her “hood pass” was real.

  • http://missproctor.tumblr.com bproctor

    Nothing new. The negation of Black femininity through the medium of a white woman’s body. This white woman can be embraced by Black men that are affiliated with “hip-hop,” but many Black women that are far more talented (i.e. Jean Grae, Rapsody) barely get acknowledged. The shit is crazy.

    And let’s not get it twisted, this girl is not “hood” and obviously has access to resources that even allowed her to make this damn YouTube video in the first place. Why even change her name from “Natasha” to Kreayshawn. Really?! Looks like an attempt to “urbanize” a seemingly “white” name. And let’s not forget how whiteness functions as a form of privilege. So yes, she is privileged.

  • Andrew

    To the author:

    Aren’t you stereotyping and putting black culture in a box when you relegate it to big earrings, bob cuts, and passing blunts?

  • http://blackfacechicken.com hajipaji

    Thats not stereotyping….thats recognizing from where those trends derived. For positive or negative. You’d be a dummy to create an arguement based on that. Dont be a dummy. You big dummy.

  • taylor

    Am I the only one STILL hoping this is a skit from Saturday Night Live? Tina Fey? As if I couldn’t get any less underwhelmed by hip hop. As if another rapper calling themselves “the best” couldn’t get any more abundant. This is just so inappropriate on so many levels. “She is real?” And what are we calling real these days? And what exactly does Oakland qualify as real. Because all I see is some real bullshit.

  • nate

    To all earthy haters: have a chew stick and a smile and shut the f*** up.

  • StraightUpStruggle

    Oakland is hella diverse yes!… but we got sum silly ass white folk runnin up into the hood gentrifyin our spots, kickin our people out, takin over the streets and then posin like they Hip-Hop and hard as hell…NOT! There are even white anarchists doin their thing and flip their style into a mix with hip hop or just convert themselves to straight HIp-Hop in the way they imagine it. They wanna be accepted and u dont do that by jackin culture. Anyway u look at it, there are many white folk that wanna be part the hood when they arent. Some may have even been born in the hood so i can see where they get their strut from, but at the end of the day u throw some professional gear on em and toss em in an office and they will blend in with no problem… they can walk where they want and act how they want cuz they carryin that white privilege… so for them to come into the hood and steal whats was born on our streets and roll it out like a costume that they can put on make money and take off when they want, if they want… nah i aint down wit that. If u representing hip hip to the fullest in the multicultural unifying way that it was intended to be with a soul and consciousness then thats cool…but u gonna have all folks of color wit u (not as tokens) doin our thing as a community, u not gonna be talkin ridiculuous madness with foul words that are colonizing/destructive, u gonna rep ur own thing (not sum stereotype that u managed to piece together from other packaged/commodified fakes that reinforces fould visions of people of color) and u gonna be part of a resistance thats helpin us all get out the hole, not just urself. I dont see that in this female… shes gimmick as far as i see. Im in the heart of Ghost Town and i see them fakers takin over the community and perpetratin images of what they think hood is… they luv to say they live in the hood as it gives them some sort of cred. Hip-Hop was born out of resistance to bring all strugglin folk together, not for white folk to jack and replace black folk… Hip-Hop is a community affair and if u aint reppin commuity then u aint Hip-Hop!…and she aint!

  • Mikele

    Being raised in the hood and moving into the hood after you’ve finished college and are working a corporate gig that pays for your renovated flat are two different things. I don’t think she’s the latter.

  • http://AirInDanYell.tumblr.com Erin

    I understand Oakland’s diversity, but if she was REALLY raised in the hood, where are all her friends that aren’t white (other than the Black men she chills with that aren’t current rappers from Cali)?! I’ve only seen like one video of her and a Black girl… she didn’t have any other Black, Latino, or Asian girlfriends from back home in the hood that she could’ve put in the video with her too?! Unless she was totally a social outcast, shunned from the circle of diversity, I’m sure she should have at least a few girlfriends from other cultures, we as women of color are not that dismissive of building friendships with other people that grow up around us, no matter the color. That’s what’s unsettling to me. Then, her name is already Natassia… Why couldn’t she call herself Tasha or something? Why did she have to create a “Ghetto Name” like Kreayshawn? I know rappers create nicknames for themselves but she went all the way out there with hers. Also, you have to have some sort of money to be able to shoot all of your videos in perfect HD quality and enough money to edit videos with good software, not saying that everybody from the hood is broke but she’s going around acting like she’s not only hood but poor too. Things aren’t adding up, but I can see thru a gimmick when I see one.

  • mluv

    Oh HEAAAAALLL NOOOO! LMAO

    DON”T YOU EVEN GO THERE!

    M.I.A. is NOTHING like this chick AND shes 9934809321480329x more original!!!! Her image was NOT a gimmick, M.I.A HAD style, creativity and secondly her beats where NOT hip-hop beats. No one can top or copy M.I.A … Get it straight!

  • http://twitter.com/AhSheAhNuh Aashiana.

    1. Talent is subjective. IMO, She is the white, female version of Gucci Mane…do with that what you will.

    2. The 80s “retro feel” you speak of is NOTHING new. In fact, in the last few years it’s been done to death see: Pac Div, The Cool Kids, Retro Kidz, MIA, Santigold, anything involving Diplo etc.

  • http://twitter.com/AhSheAhNuh Aashiana.

    Since when does criticism = hate?

  • REALTALK

    This is where you are straight twisted, I have YET to see a White girl hang in the hood and NOT have Black girls as they friend. PERIOD. You can clearly see these girls are trying to be apart of something they are not, the music industry has set them up with some people to give them this particular look, the same way they did Nicki Minaj. So, to be from the “HOOD”, and not have 1 Black girl in the video?? come on now, doesn’t go down that way. P.S. if she was grabbed up by some black guys and brought to the hood, she wouldn’t be looking like that when she 1st get snatched up. One of the “sisters” would have recreated her look quickly. So, I agree with this article wholeheartedly. I mean seriously, they are a mix of the back in the day Salt N’ Peppa look with a mix of TLC and a hit of Xscape written all over the cover of them. PERIOD.

  • REALTALK

    P.S.
    Robin Thicke and Em didn’t feel they had to come out dressing and acting “Black” to be respected by the African American community. African Americans respect the music, the music industry feels that artist have to have a certain look, especially female artists to even be accepted.

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    Agreed. But prepare to have the torch mob come after you for this comment… Yet again, I said something similar in the other Kreayshawn thread about how Blacks idolize and emulate European culture and it was flame on like Fantastic Four over there. Idiots.

  • RealityCheck

    am i the only black woman that’s not offended. im actually laughing.
    =)

  • http://twitter.com/AhSheAhNuh Aashiana.

    Sigh…
    Really the only thing that bothers me about this girl & her “crew” is the fact that she feels so comfortable using the N word.
    I had an interesting convo with a male friend who likes her & asked him if it was a white male rapper like Yelawolf or Mac Miller throwing around the N word instead of her would he dismiss it? Of course, as I suspected, his answer was no. I don’t think a white male rapper could get away with saying the N word in any way, shape, or form because Black men would go HAM. I mean look at Asher Roth, who, before he tweeted jokingly about “Nappy headed hoes”, was supposed to be the next great white hype. Where is his career now? Nowhere.
    So why does this girl get a pass? Honestly, I really want to hear from people who like her music! Why aren’t more people bothered by the fact that she uses that word.
    And before anyone comes at me with the “she only tweeted it ONCE!” excuse. If you honestly think she’s hanging around with Vanessa who says it LITERALLY every 3 seconds yet shes miraculously managed to never say it, you are a damn fool.

    I’m just going to leave this here, White rapper Brother Ali speaking on white kids & the N word: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCsCix12-J0

  • MissRae

    LOL

  • Mikele

    It’s very easy to be from the ‘hood’ in Oakland and not have black girlfriends! WTF are you talking about?! lol!

  • Clnmike

    @Aashiana.

    1. Talent is subjective. Your right so who is to say she isn’t? Not her fans that’s for sure. And judging by the rest of her work she is far above Gucci Mane.

    2. The retro feel is what was placed in this video and pointed out in this article if people followed her they would see its not the norm.

    ⁠@REALTALK
    PSS
    1-Em made a song using derogatory remarks about black after getting his “heart broken” he wasn’t quoting he mean it. If this is going to be about dressing and acting black than he very well does dress “black” with the baggy clothes style and his vernacular.

    3- Robin Thicke obviously has a chocolate fetish with his “soul” music videos and black wife.

    They all pander to blacks so there all the same.

  • http://ayswyl.tumblr.com C.J.

    I’m not offended by this song at all. I’m a 26 year old, black HBCU graduate with 2 full time jobs that enjoys the HELL out of this and has been BUMPING this for the past 2 weeks. Some things are not to be taken so seriously and this is the type of music I play when I’m riding in my car on the way to hang with my girls.

    I’m not offended because I was raised in a diverse community where we had White boys and girls act just like this not because they were making it up BUT because it was who they were. I’m more intrigued by Kreayshawn’s other video where she shows off her film directing skills and the art/passion she really has.

    Let her get her money the way that she feels.

    “I got the SWAG and it’s pumpin out the ovariiieessss.”

  • http://ayswyl.tumblr.com C.J.

    Also…. I think someone else mentioned it before me but has no one went off about Gwen Stefani or Madonna taking a “black” persona and using it. Gwen Stefani and her “Harijuku” girls were all types of urban and her “Luxurious” video where she was dressed like a Chola girl? C’Mon now…

  • tijarah08

    Just out of curiosity, may I ask why do you think the writer of this aritcle is a “hater” and angry. It would also be interesting to see where everyone is from who posted on the message board because I think people from different parts of the country have different views on what Kreayshawn is doing.

  • me :)

    lmfao at ‘come gargle my swag’!

  • liz

    lol i agree

  • http://recycledwanderer.tumblr.com anony

    my thoughts?

    whatever.

    i honestly don’t care anymore.

  • Reason

    If Kreayshawn has “haters” then, as evident by the vocal minority trolling to defend her, she also has Stans. I don’t have a dog in the hunt. She’s just not that impressive to me to fight against or, especially, for. I mean could there be a more obvious candidate to be canonized in the Where Are They Now No-/One-Hit Wonder books than her. But who am I to judge, I’m sure if the internet had been around when Vanilla Ice was making an impression on my 11 year old ears I’d be up on a Clutch equivalent cussing out any person accusing him of appropriating black culture too. WTFE. She’s a film school drop-out? Stans are Street Teams, PR and A&R people put together. LMAO.

  • J

    Why are you even on this site. Why don’t you take some of the money that you made off of our yellow bus slow asses and take a reading comprehension class. The author is taking offense at the fact that Kreayshawn or whatever the hell her name is has chosen to embody every negative stereotype of what a black woman is. This crap is offensive. And to add insult to injury people are flocking to her like she is the second coming of Eminem, while simultaneously ignoring that she is a no talent gimmick using hack. If a black female were doing the exact same thing as Kreasshole nobody would give a damn, meaning she is only getting any attention because she is white.

  • isolde

    “interesting point, noname… especially considering the fact that MIA adopted her entire persona after attending film school and beginning to identify with hip-hop and dancehall culture… that was definitely NOT the environment she grew up in, it was merely the platform she chose to use. is that not ‘appropriating Black culture?”
    _________________________________________________________________

    @Serenissima

    Um . . . no

    MIA grew up in the projects of South London

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/30/arts/music/30play.html?ref=mia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5TiGAgcDHc&feature=player_embedded#at=38
    ______________________________________________________________________

    “also no one was mad at MIA when she came out with the same ‘gimmick’ style… but i guess cuz she’s brown-skinned it’s ok?”
    ______________________________________________________________________

    @noname

    Actually, it is less egregious precisely because MIA is brown skinned. Sri Lankans do not have a history of colonialism or perpetuating the systematic, racial subjugation of black Americans. However, white people do, which is why someone like Gwen Stefani would catch a lot more heat for using those Asian “Harajuku” girls as props, during her L.A.M.B. era, than Nicki Minaj would for basically doing the same thing in her Massive Attack video. Women of color like MIA and Nicki are also twice marginalized because they are both not-white and female. So by virtue of being white, Kreayshawn has a better chance of achieving mainstream acceptance, more latitude for artistic freedom, and she stands to profit more for her trouble.

    Someone said something earlier that caught my eye about how a black woman would be considered ghetto for donning Kreayshawn’s attire, and I’m pretty inclined to agree.

    @Bene

    This is more of a Racialicious piece. There aren’t as many white privilege deniers there.

  • stephlovve

    I’m not hating on kreayshawn or her “White Girl Mob” crew, honestly I’m only intrigued by her unique sense of style; I find absolutely nothing wrong with her & her home girl wearing gold door knocker earrings or flashy things, I don’t think she’s trying to mimic anyone with her dressing or way of acting at all; I think she’s just a 21 year old girl expressing herself and trying to have fun. I don’t exactly see how she’s “making fun” of the hip hop culture, YET I don’t take her as all that talented in spitting rhymes either. Her lyrics are pretty stupid in my opinion, just like a lot of other “rappers” these days–but don’t get me wrong, writing rhymes isn’t something just ANYBODY can do, let alone actually going out there rapping them to the public.”Gucci Gucci” is a pretty catchy song; you just cant help but be interested in the girl ! She’s doing her thing & she’s bold for it, especially when attempting to take part in a culture that’s predominantly black as a WHITE FEMALE rapper–she’s a freakin’ oddball, which makes her very easily targeted, but at the end of the day she is STILL making her money.

    As for the whole “n-word” thing, as anger provoking and offensive as it is for white people to use the word considering african american history and the fact I’M african american, I don’t think anyone who’s black should sit there and try to blow her up about it. She tweets the word ONE time & everyone’s on her ass about it but if someone like Soulja Boy or Diddy did the same, it obviously wouldn’t be such a huge nuisance right ? Blame it OUR own people for taking the n-word and making it apart of their vocabulary; realize how much black people degrade each other & themselves when they speak to each other & most especially the numerous times they use it in rap songs–why would you want to get mad at HER when WE are the ones who made it seem like it was okay in the first place ? When black people stop acting the way they do, that’s when we’ll finally earn the respect we always demand from white people or people of other races for that matter. Sit down somewhere and get over it if you’re not going to do anything about it.

    Done.

  • Ddre

    Eh, I’m not impressed.

    …and moving on…

  • Honey

    Clutch your mag is so interesting that I see the kkk took a subscription damn talking about influence!

  • minna k.

    Sigh!

    @ Danielle, you seem to know a lot about her, and her mother, and are defending HARD. I’m sorry if i have offended you, as you seem to be taking this extra personally.

    My observations are purely based on how all of this reads from a race politics standpoint. I’m not saying that this is the worst song I’ve ever heard. I won’t even pretend that I have done any extensive research on this person, and i don’t really care to. I understand white folks being left behind from “white flight”, and as a result adopting aspects of black youth culture. I get it, I’ve known it in my life, it ain’t all that complex, and that is not the issue from my vantage point.

    This act seems more than a TAD suspicious to me, and the fact that she has a blatantly race exclusive “crew” smells even more like a rat. I think the issue lies with her irresponsibility, lack of respect, and immaturity. We call out all kinds of “artists” here on Clutch, and she is no exception.

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    word. cuz Black girls/women LOVEEEE them some Gwen Stefani. great point

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    i like her music… its not the most substantial, but for fun, party music and stuff to blast in your car, rock out to while getting ready to go out, its fun… and im not bothered by the fact that she uses the n-word because the word literally has no meaning to me. Where I live (Washington Heights, NYC) that word is thrown around by Dominicans like they invented it… literally, I’m talking about people fresh off the boat from DR, that speak NO ENGLISH. But they know the word ‘nigga’ and sprinkle it in with their Spanish. I grew up hearing it in music, seeing it on television and movies… it just doesnt hold the same weight for me and many members of my generation as it does for others. take that how you will, but its reality. ‘my nigga’ literally means ‘my dude’ in this day and age.

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    @J:

    I have to disagree with you. I personally think Nicki MInaj is a no talent gimmick using hack, and, last I checked, she was a black female doing the exact same thing as Kreayshawn: capitalizing off of Black culture. In Nicki’s case, she capitalizing off of Black culture’s interest in a certain type of body shape and look. And EVERYBODY gives a damn. Meaning… what, exactly?

    Just my $.02

  • Quell

    The difference is Gwen Stefani is actually talented, she doesn’t use the N word, and her style has been pretty much the same for years, she’s not trying too hard like this Kreayshawn person.

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    @Quell:

    But the article is about supposedly appropriating Black culture… so youre saying its okay to appropriate Black and other minority cultures if you ‘have talent’ and dont use the N- word? Because Gwen def went through a Rasta phase, a Chola phase, a Japanese Harajuku phase, etc… and she is currently loving the 40s glam look, so I have to disagree with you about her style being the same. Ska punk, pink-hair, braceface Gwen is the not the same as this Jean Harlow, platinum blonde, red-lipped Glamazon Gwen we have now.

  • Quell

    Honestly I could less that she’s white, she’s whack, and if she were black I’d be saying the same thing.

  • http://theycallmekells.tumblr.com Kelly

    I see other black women commenting that they don’t care and they think it’s funny, and I agree. I do like the song, the video, the attitude, but I GET why it’s a problem too. I’m 20, I live in SoCal, and in my circles, if I were to wear bamboos, colored weaves, or even sneakers, I’d be called a “doo doo mama” “ratchet” and of course “ghetto.” But when the white girl does it, it’s dope, original, AND she gets mad reblogs on Tumblr. It’s not right, not at all.

  • Tomi-chan

    “[...] Gwen Stefani and her “Harijuku” girls were all types of urban and her “Luxurious” video where she was dressed like a Chola girl? C’Mon now…”

    She was definitely wearing Japanese fashion. It’s called “Harajuku” (that’s how you spell it) which is a type of subculture based on the area around Harajuku Station populated by the youth. Gwen is/was quite obsessed with Japanese underground culture. Please please please look it up haha… it’s really cool and it’s a shame people always confuse it with the “Chola” or the “Ghetto” look.

  • Tomi-chan

    I think it’s funny that people think we still corner a market on what’s hood or not; as if black culture is so underground people still need to drive down to the ghetto to get a feel for what it’s like to live like them coloreds. Maybe in the 1920s, but this is 2011. Hood is everywhere and everyone’s got there own spin and rims on it. And NO. I don’t think she’s a brilliant lyricist, but I’d choose her over Soulja and his rap-a-likes any day.

    Her pseudonym– Kreayshawn– is probably the biggest kicker for me; definitely plays off the notion some people have of needing to be “black” or “black enough” to even look at the rap game. I mean damn, does ANYONE remember when Eminem came out? Black people HATED him, which made him blow up right quick. His lyrics aren’t gems (no seriously, he sucks) but the negative press is what gave him the popularity. We’ll foolishly do the same thing with this girl no doubt haha.

    So I guess what I’m saying is… I don’t know why black people get so angry when someone from the “outside” blows up (something we cause by giving them so much attention). WE DO IT by NOT supporting our own people. Keys (search her on Youtube) is WAY better than Nicki Minaj, but guess who gets our dollars? Guess who gets to be on the cover of Vogue?

    If black people were really interested about supporting our own, “barbie dolls” would not win over talent. But we aren’t. Many more people would like to see the attractive, the busty, the nearly white versions we’ve created of perfection, dance across our screens like mindless blimps with hips. It’s easy to get mad and active when someone from the “outside” calls a black person a Nigger, or calls the black woman “the least physically attractive”, but ask us to support OUR OWN? That’s where it gets messy. That’s where Achebe said things fall apart.

    Come on folks, we can do better can’t we?

  • RetroChic

    Bubba Sparks did it and so did Paul Wall. I was only a matter of time………………

    In the meantime we should see if we can make some money off of her too. Just thought.

  • AllisonMarie

    I like Gwen Stefani and I see the point that’s trying to be made, but I don’t think she’s comparable to this Kreayshawn..lol…to me, none of Gwen’s fashions are “phases”. They’re all just different themes to her same style. Her clothing label was all categorized according to the different themes of her style, but I’ve never viewed it as a “phase” or “gimmick”. Just Gwen being Gwen. I’m the same way, I dress in different styles, sometimes inspired by different cultures, but that’s because I’m eclectic, not going through a phase. Just because someone likes 40s glam they HAVE to wear 40s glam ALL the time and if they switch it up one day its a new phase? Really?

  • christina

    i agree with you wholeheartedly! i am not a fan of nicki minaj, and she was created artist! does she have more talent than keys???? f*** no!!!! is kreayshawn talented? at many things! is she marketable? for sure! the murder dubs where she is from in east oakland is no joke. so do i think that she is exploiting the hip-hop culture? no. was anyone saying anything when SJP was wearing bamboo earrings and nameplate necklaces in sex and the city? would that be appropriating black culture? no they were not. i think that this is who she is. let her make her money. her lyrics are hilarious, when i first heard “gucci, gucci” i was laughing so hard! i’ll download the single, maybe not the whole album though!

  • lovelife

    SHE IS HHHHHHHHHHHHORRIBLE!!

    she tryin to spit all these BAY AREA LYRICS
    but her ass filmed the video in LOS ANGELES!!

  • http://www.ebonicspress.com Ebonics Press

    I totally agree with the author. it just scandelous how black people are critized and laught at for thier natural talents and culture but when these things are taken on by a white person it look at as if, wow that so unique and new.

    No it isn’t we have been doing it for years, creativity runs in our blood. If a black man lifts one leg of his trouser higher than the other is called Ghetto when the white man does it, its Urban Fashion.

    If a black women give a strong out spoken opinion with charisma and a lot of body language its called aggressive, when its a white girl its girl power.

    The examples are endless and its so tiresome how we are constantly critized, secretly envied and then copied.

    Let not change but continue to do what we know best – CREATE :o)

    Have a creative day!

  • http://twitter.com/AhSheAhNuh Aashiana.

    Interesting, considering we are a part of the same generation. I used that word a lot when I was a teenager but as I’ve matured using it just seemed unnecessary to me.

    I do see your point though, for some people it’s a non-factor. Although Dominicans are Black so…it really wouldn’t matter if they said it or not….

    But that’s an entirely different conversation. Really, I don’t care enough about this female to keep rallying against her.

    I’m actually happy she exists, I hope she makes it big, the sooner she does, the sooner she’ll fade into obscurity.

  • http://none Kit

    I have never heard of her before and just watched the youtube video and think she’s a load of crap. I just watched an interview with her where she is laughing and joking while talking about robbing people, smoking weed and referring to women as bitches.
    I am sick and tired of this kind of FOOLISHNESS!
    ‘Chav’ is what we would call her in England (or at least in London)!

  • isolde

    ______________________________________________________________________

    “I mean damn, does ANYONE remember when Eminem came out? Black people HATED him, which made him blow up right quick. His lyrics aren’t gems (no seriously, he sucks) but the negative press is what gave him the popularity. We’ll foolishly do the same thing with this girl no doubt haha.”
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    @Tomi

    That assertion isn’t even remotely true. Eminem’s success has little to do with any animosity some blacks may have had for him when his first album dropped. His success can be attributed to pop cultural timing, good production, lyrical content, novelty (a rare white face among a black, male dominated genre), and white male privilege, which makes him that much more marketable to the largest consumer demo of hip-hop recordings. Trying to blame Em’s success on some disgruntled blacks, who aren’t even Eminem’s biggest consumers is pretty weak.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    If black people were really interested about supporting our own, “barbie dolls” would not win over talent.”
    ______________________________________________________________________

    So, Nicki’s white, now? Are Missy Elliot, Rah Digga, Lil Kim, Lauryn Hill, Queen Latifah, Eve, Trina, Remy Ma, Diamond and Princess from Crime Mob, etc., etc., also white or nearly white? None of them had support from the black community too, huh? Nicki’s success has little to do why Keys doesn’t have a record deal. There’s a reason why Nicki doesn’t have any competition on the radio from female emcees right now, and it’s not because “blacks do not support their own”.

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    Danielle- Quit it…really. Everyone knows that Natasha is a Russian name, so um…who is gonna trip over that?

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    I find it funny how folks who criticize Kreayshawn are automatically classified as haters now and find it completely A-OK for white folks to use the “n-word”.

    It’s a pretty sad sign of how low things have fallen in our community these days…or seriously how clueless and brain-dead people are today. *smh*

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    Umm don’t put us all in the “we”…speak for yourself. I, nor any other black person I know does not use the N-word, and I have not bought a single hip-hop album in years because I do not support the usage of the word. So I don’t see how or why should the entire black race put up with such disrespecting nonsense because of the actions of a few.

  • http://ashleyscwalls.wordpress.com Ashley S.C. Walls

    I am not offended either. Although I understand where the author is coming from, I just feel as though there has to be a time when we allow artists to be creative. Before lableing her as inauthentic, I would like to see her during interviews.

    When I am in predominantly white clubs, all they do is play rap music. Honestly, all young people are exposed to rap music right now. I dont see a lot of mimicing black female rap culture, I think she is doing rap music like Lady Gaga or Madonna would (not that she should be compared to them, but I dont get “black imitation” from her; I get that she is a product of the music culture for a 20-something year old.

  • sli

    Isn’t that absolutely ridiculous? We better wake up! One black chick has been on here stanning for Kreayshawn like she’s her public relations manager or something.

    It’s bad enough when our own people use that word, but I can kind of see where they are coming from-even though I don’t like it. However, to laugh and giggle in white folks face while they call you a n***a, is un-freakin’-believable! One day they’re going to flip that script and n***a is going to become n****r.

  • Dee

    me neither!! I was thinking the same thing ANND I mean its a million dollar contract, thats nothing now-a-days.

    We get it, everybody wants to be Black but nobody wants to be Black, not even Black people… aaaallriiight

  • Dee

    ….and she’s lame. lol

  • minna k.

    Tomi, no disrespect lil’ sis,

    however I think your assessment on Eminem is incorrect. He was controversial, yes, but not hated. He went commercial 12 years ago. I am old enough to remember. You said that you are 17, so that means that you were about 5 then, if my math is right? I would think that you are not speaking from personal experience.

  • isis

    Eh I don’t care about this chick because I don’t consider rap music to be black culture. I’m offended when people say that. I hate rap music. Its garbage. If other races want to put out garbage let them. We should concentrate on putting our energy in stuff that will uplift the black community not stuff that makes us the laughing stock of the world. Ughh let them have that crap

  • B

    The only thing I can agree with in this article is that Kreayshawn and her crew’s use of the N word is nothing to be commended. However, I think there are too many attempted correlations between hip hop and Black culture. They are not synonymous by nature. There is definitely a relationship between both Black culture and Hip hop, but neither are dependent upon one another. Beyond musical artists, how many white b-girls, graffiti artists, dancers, etc. have we been exposed to that if they weren’t in the game, Hip hop would not have progressed in the same direction as it finds itself today?

    Another issue I have is that while Kreayshawn may imitate black stereotypes through image and music, the article indirectly highlights white stereotypes to some degree. If Kreayshawn was a black female, would her hood status even be questioned? Whereas Kreayshawn is only ‘allegedly’ from the hood. Is it not possible for a white, lower class family to raise their child amongst other black children in which race and culture would inevitably become blurred? Is it not believable that coming from the hood, Kreayshawn would naturally appropriate mannerisms, an image, and an overall lifestyle similar to that of Black culture?

    As a magazine for both Black culture and women, I don’t see the sense in scolding a woman who is getting by in the music industry as a female emcee, without selling her body and establishing a sense of girlfriend camaraderie. Put her at the mic for a freestyle and then we can berate her for what she should really be evaluated for: talent.

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    Y’know? Kreayshawn isn’t the first, nor the last white entertainer to be influenced by elements of Black music. Did anyone forget Lady Tee (RIP) was was embraced by black folk up until the day she died? Yeah, folks knew she was white, but people loved her nonetheless. Nobody likes Kreayshawn cos she’s a talentless git with bad fashion taste.

    What gets me is some of these folks have the gall to blame Kreayshawn’s use of the N-Word on black folk…Like she doesn’t have a mind of her own and can’t pick up an American History book on her own to see why it’s not ok for white folks to use it.

  • http://twitter.com/LEATHERBERRY Danielle Gracewood

    @minna k. I’m not defending HER per se, I just get tired of people jumping to conclusions and ultimately judging people. I mean thats exactly what happens with black people. People look at us, the way some of us dress or talk and think they know what we’re all about, without research, without knowing. If we don’t find it acceptable for people to treat us that way, why are we so quick to throw shade on this girl? If you wanna hate on the music, thats cool but to question her upbringing in such hateful ways (not saying u were being hateful but some def are) especially with such limited perception is just perpetuating the angry, bitter, hater stereotype.

    @cupcakes…lol I’m just sayin, her name ain’t Sarah…lol. Don’t hate on the girl’s stage name…thats all i’m sayin. No need to pick her apart like that, not a good look.

  • http://twitter.com/rhondayes Advocate

    Why the surprise? She is back by black rappers in the game that sold BLACK WOMEN OUT a very long time ago. Of course, they would uplift this white girl over one of their own. Watch the latest videos, check out their lives, their homes, the women in their homes.

    Wealthy black men, entertainers, and athletes are the biggest sellouts on the planet and I feel shamed to be attached to them in any way.

    This absolutely seals the deal for me, with Snoop. I’ve made excuse after excuse and defense after defense, but enough! Game over.

  • http://twitter.com/rhondayes Advocate

    Black men are whitewashing themselves out of existence every time they create a child with a non-Black woman. In about two or three generations there will be no Black men, just a lot of biracial mess, no race wants to claim as their own. Idiots!

    How can they proudly look down into the faces of children that don’t look like them?

  • Lea

    I find it interesting that you use the phrase “black culture and women.” IMHO Clutch is specifically about black women culture. There is a difference. Your phrase is what black feminists (or womanists) have been trying to bridge for years: “All blacks are men and all women are white.”

  • Reason

    LMAO. Stans are so cute. The Rebecca Black or Sarah Palin of hip-hop has about 10 minutes.

  • Angela

    THAT SH*T IS AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RAPPER? PLEASE! F’ING JOKE!

  • Dawn

    @Advocate You’ve got to be kidding me with this “keep the race pure” nonsense. Okay, you psycho black nazi. Biracial people are beautiful, as are other ethnicities.

    Yep, it’s all becoming one big melting pot, and the racial lines are blurred more and more with each generation. If you have children, I feel for them if you’re putting bullsh*t like that in their heads.

    How can they look at children that don’t look like them? Are you joking with that comment? Their kids do look like them, it’s still their kid. Go get some love in your life or a hug, too much bitter separatism pumping through your veins.

  • KGDC

    We have no one to blame but ourselves. Lord knows if some person (or group) went around using derogative Jewish slurs, this wouldn’t have gone any further.

    When we stand for nothing, we fall for anything.

  • GR

    The real problem with this article and the previous one about Kreayshawn by Leslie Pitterson is that both writers display an astounding lack of journalistic integrity in terms of doing in-depth research on Kreayshawn and -gasp- actually taking the time to talk to her before passing judgement on her.

    Both articles are full of inaccuracies and are clearly meant as view-increasing polemics. The first article takes her use of the N-bomb completely out of context and demonizes her for it. This one is equally full of holes and sweeping generalizations.

    Viera blatantly has an agenda, as evidenced by whoppers like “I don’t believe for one second her image is authentic,” without doing a little basic digging to verify what Kreayshawn is actually all about.

    Can’t wait to see what Clutch pulls out their ass for the next post on Kreayshawn. The ironic thing is that if anyone is trying to exploit something for financial gain here, it’s Clutch by writing unsubstantiated, sensationalized, and pseudo-intellectual articles about a young woman they know nothing about for the purpose of driving up their numbers.

  • http://twitter.com/xtisme Christina Wiley

    I come from the same area as this rapper and to be honest she is very skilled.

    White women dressing like this hanging out with black men and women is nothing new to the game. If you all have ever been to the Bay or grew up in a school where Blacks were the majority and others were the minority, they basically grow up within the Black-American culture and share the same values.

    As for her saying the n-word, im not saying its ok even if it is a DMX quote, but she should be aware of her audience. And yeah, she probably does ay the n-word casually which is no excuse bc if she’s really trying to be more than down, and be an ally, she needs to cut that word out of her vocabulary immediately.

    Moreover, hip-hop is not just Black people, it can include any diasporic peoples or anyone trying to express themselves. Isnt that why we enjoy hip-hop, because of the freedom of expression it allows its artists?

    I think THE REAL ISSUE here is, is it ok that a White woman exploits her own minority status in the Black and MALE dominated culture of hip-hop?

    Personally, I think as a White girl (with skill) its going to happen regardless she wants to be exoticized or not. You can probably think back to a time where you gained a certain level of social status due to your own status as a Black well-spoken woman–I know I have. Honestly, its what you do in that role of tokenism that can either ruin a personal or group reputation, or how you use that position to help others.

    For the sake of Hip-Hop, the Bay, and Whiteness & Racism, I hope she uses her tokenism to get MORE OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR in the game AS WELL AS WOMEN (white, black, orange, or purple).

  • Sunny

    Really? Nobody cares about her like that. Financial gain – over Kreayshawn…really. Boy Bye!

    The truth if this – as someone of Facebook said about this young lady – and her stans –

    “Call me reactionary and emotional – hey, I’m human – but it is difficult to be proud of her when all that she represents and is praised for is all that black women are never allowed to be.”

  • chante

    i follow her on twitter and she actually says she never used the N-word

    @ecravings Sorry I was born in a city that didn’t see race as a issue in music. But I’m more sorry that people grew up still thinking in a box. I never even said that word so do your research and know your place. Your not god and you own no thoughts of mines

    http://twitter.com/KREAYSHAWN

  • MM

    I’m so sick of them jocking a whole culture. It’s really getting on my nerves. I posted something like this on FB to someone that posted her video:

    “It’s ironic how the White girl mimicking Black culture has been viewed as quirky, cute, and interesting in the past. But sisters who fashionably rock bamboo earrings, gold nameplate necklaces, and blonde streaked weaves, will inevitably be considered “ghetto” by society”

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    @Danielle-

    Like I said, I don’t care if Kreayshawn is influenced by hip-hop, reggae or Beethoven. She is not the first nor last white entertainer to be influenced by black entertainers (and if she was any good, I prolly might’ve wanted to purchase her music).

    My one and only beef is her usage of the N-word. It’s extremely inappropriate and uncool. I don’t like it when other blk ppl use it…and dislike it even more when whites use it.

  • Cleo

    LOL! Real music went the way of the dodo with the advent of Brittany and the bleached blonde gang yeaaaars ago.

  • http://www.bcommtv.com STONEY XL

    I don’t hit women, but when my biracial daughter grows up you better hope she don’t slap the shit out of your ignorant ass. I’m done.

  • apples (bb)

    My real issue isn’t really with Kreayshawn *rolls eyes at name*, but the black folks who support her perpetuation of black stereotypes. Even with all of the ‘hood cred’ she claims to possess she would NOT be able to make it in the rap game without support from big name rap artists. The fact that these men support this mockery of black female artists sets me off. It appears to me that those in the rap industry will except all things related to black women (culture, physical features) on a woman who is non-black: from the female rap artists to the videos vixens. Hip-hop makes me sick.

  • Mikele

    @GR – I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

  • Plain ol’ girl

    No matter how whack she is, I can’t hate. We have artists like Lil’ Wayne and his crew who irritates the heck out of me playing all over the radio station. It’s like the same lyrics with tight beats playing and that’s all music is pretty much today.

  • Syeira

    My biggest problem with this is the promotion of her music by black men while black female rappers have been silenced. I know, I know. It shouldn’t be about race. But, that says something.

  • huh

    interesting how only black men are cosigning this chick..no sistahs in the video. I’m over this chick..

  • sli

    Some of you all are getting really upset because we don’t like this chick. What’s with all the name-calling. Black women have embraced white (women) artists before. It’s very simple-WE DON’T LIKE KREAYSHAWN-some of us anyway and for different reasons. We don’t know Natassia Toloz. It’s this Kreayshawn character that’s the problem. So, don’t try to guilt trip us.

  • Martin Man

    This article is dumb, unaware, and the writer should go listen to some cliche bullshit.

    The whole idea of her is that she doesn’t subside to anybodies rules. Shes from a generation and niche where race doesn’t decide how you talk, look, or make music.

    Look at the video, she good friends with plenty of African Americans and they support what she is doing – Obviously she speaks to a lot of people and you don’t understand the genre and what it’s become.

    What you say about current hip-hop is retarded. It’s better, more diverse, and more creative than it ‘s ever been. If you want to listen to some old-school hip-hop it’s there so stop hating on something new and listen to the same shit over and over.

    Isn’t the point of making music to push the boundaries? Seems like you have some sensitive boundaries yourself.

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  • @SugarKovalczyk

    If her image is truly inauthentic then time will tell. Should she become famous she’ll switch genres a la Kid Rock.

    But you were a little hard on the girl. In such a global world its naive to lump her behavior in with the behavior of Elvis or Jerry Lee Lewis. This is not the 1940′s or 50′s. The world today is too global, too accessible not to be influenced by other ‘cultures’, particularly those in your own country!

    Nothing is completely ours anymore. Once you put it out there it becomes part of the collective.

  • @SugarKovalczyk

    Dear Stoney XL and Dawn I do not speak for Advocate but please don’t dismiss his/her point entirely because of the way it was said. I’m not a separatist and I have nothing against biracials. But I do agree that **part** of the reason so many black men choose outside of the race is an unconscious hatred of things black (oh and us women have it too).

    I’m not blaming black men or women for this at all. Just saying what is. But going into the future I can see how Advocate would regret the (further) loss of black people.

    Please check out –> http://globalfusionproductions.com/fbl/skin-bleaching-colorism-a-global-dirty-little-secret/ (2nd video) and http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=UW31Te1awVw for a better incite of what I’m *trying* to say.

    Send all hate mail to [email protected]

  • http://loveandchunkybits.tumblr.com MB

    I totally agree with B. Being from Louisiana, and going to “inner city” schools, you would have a few white people scattered here and there in the school. And if they acted “white” they got made fun of, and if they acted “black” they would be in a crew and have friends.

    So… if I hadnt been brought up that way and seen real chicks like this girl, intelligent girls raised in the hood that had to adopt or “appropriate” black culture to fit in and have friends, I’d be mad too at this girl “acting black”. The girl’s raps were funny and she didnt disrespect black culture, she says “Hey, im a white girl that grew up in a black world” I say cut her some slack… bc if she acted “white” she’d be appropriating white culture bc thats not how she was raised.

    And I say “intelligent” bc u kinda hinted that she wasnt hood bc she dropped out of film school or something… like a backhanded double insult… u could take that statement any way you want since there was little clarification where u were going, were u calling her a failure or saying she loses street cred for going to college?

  • http://loveandchunkybits.tumblr.com MB

    I agree, GR!
    I hate when people try to speak for me, as a black woman, like Sunny, who says you cant be like Kreyshawn, stand up for yourself, dont let other people define who you are then get mad when someone else has the courage to be that!

    I think theres a growing demographic that Hip Hop heads and magazines like these dont acknowledge… people like me… I’m a nerd, I grew up fully entrenched in black AND white culture… Im not from the hood, but I went to hood, nerdy schools (its the strangest demographic ever, let me tell u, bc we didnt really have sports).

    So, I was the token black girl in the Asian/white clique in a school that was 95% black. Kreyshawn is def more hood than I could ever be, and I DO NOT appropriate black culture bc I wasnt raised like that… but I wasnt raised “white” either.

    I think her Gucci song is kinda genius, bc I feel the same way, hahah. If I were a rapper, thats exactly what I would rap about. Call me lame or whatever, but its the truth.

    And, I dont appreciate you trying to make me feel bad for liking her, thank you very much! I think she’s quirky and adorable bc she LOOKS quirky and adorable. And no, a professional PERSON (black or white) couldnt dress like her and get away with it, thats ur club or chillin clothes, so lets get off that bandwagon also.

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  • Bummer

    I dunno? It seems more like her style is channeling 80′s Madonna which I guess in a way was also a rip off of black culture back in the day? But does that mean if a black person wears a pair of pants he is ripping off white people since they created them first? How about the skinny jeans? I see black people more and more rocking that also. Is that ripping off white culture? How about all the black kids and heaven forbid legit Hip Hop artists that are into skate culture? Is that ripping off white folk? I guess I could be mad at both whites and blacks on the skate culture thing as this is more or less an extension of surfing which me being Hawaiian an all have sort of a claim to as the sport can be traced back to originating there. But I really don’t care. I just care if the music is good not who rocks it. I hate Eminem but I cannot discard the fact that he is one of the most talented lyricists EVER! I love Lupe but lets face it he is as dress down as can be. Look at Kanye, or Andre3000 they dresses more like the white kids than a black ones and they are seen as fashion icons.

    On KREAYSHAWN? I think I’ll let her and the whole “Odd Future” movement have there moment in the sun and not worry to much about it.

  • alicia

    THANK YOU

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  • Sun

    Do we blame a young, dumb white girl for capitalizing off the modern day hip hop minstrelsy? Or do we internalize blame as a culture for leaving the back door open for greedy corporations to effectively kill off the cultural and political potency of our music?

    We support misogynists like Kanye West, and then feign shock when young, dumb black boys call themselves Odd Future and glorify rape and sexual violence.

    There’s a link between our unwillingness to name check sexist rappers, who happen to be black, rich and flashy, with the current Al Jolsen blackface that’s infecting hip hop music. Time for a young Black woman with a powerful voice and vision to stand up above the apathy and speak out.

  • dr rich blackman

    word. i’ll reiterate my hunch that this talk is amongst the people that arent is our “bubble”.

    on a different note oakland is getting hooder almost in every nook and cranny, i lived on 14th and jackson, downtown within throwing distance of the lake and i left b/c it was getting hyphy (not in a good way).

    the bay area though produces the most unique and enigmantic out/well spoken artists in the world and its b/c were in our own world.

    i love it.

  • D

    I don’t care if the individual is white, black, yellow, purple, turquoise, WHATEVER…the fact of the matter is that bad music is bad music.

    It’s the same poop, just a different toilet.
    Let’s face it, some of these rappers who ARE African American are perpetuating these disgusting stereotypes themselves. Why is it that we take notice when someone of another race joins in on the action? If Kreayshawn was black, would there still be cause to complain? I would HOPE so but in all honesty, I don’t think most people would bat an eyelash. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not condoning this “Gucci Gucci” nonsense, trust me, it makes my skin crawl too. But until we address the tomfoolery that is happening within our own race which is, no doubt, what influenced this young woman in the first place, can we really complain?

  • D

    Preach girl!

    And also…since when are door-knocker earrings, blunts, asymetrical bobs, etc. apart of black culture? Because I beg to differ.

  • snickerz

    Thats true, for instance I have no problem in the world with Gwen Stephani, Fergie, or Eminem. Hell, Tina Marie was white and had quite an influence on r&b, so the fact that she’s WHITE is irrelevant, it’s just that she comes off as fake and just plain WHACK.

  • http://sartorialme.blogspot.com serenissima

    i totally agree. and i PROMISE this is my last post… i just wanted to add that i dont understand the comments about ‘if she was really from the hood, where are all her black friends?’ im a little insulted by that… so only minorities live in the hood? there are no affluent Black neighborhoods… and there are no White ghettos?

    and as a ‘stan,’ i have had a serious girlcrush on kreayshawn ever since i started following the Lady Tragik blog… most of her friends arent even in this video… the main chicks that i see her running with on her blog are actually Hispanic. there was ZERO investigative journalism in this piece. none whatsoever. they just looked at one video and drew lines in the sand. and when you come in armed with knowledge to refute it, youre labelled a ‘stan’ and an ‘attacker’ and claimed youre trying to make those that dont like her ‘feel guilty.’ no, im just trying to educate you on who i think she is. cuz i like her. when did that inspire such meanness? the hateful, spiteful comments by those that dont like her and cant even have an intellectual conversation about why are disgusting.

    a pic of her and her lil crew:
    http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a183/bluefaery05/new/l14.jpg

  • Christian

    You are obviously the ignorant one, do some research before you make bold statements. Kreayshawns image and persona is 1000% percent authentic. She was raised in East Oakland, the hood, and associates with some of the most ‘ghetto’ & tough people in the Bay. She has shot videos for DB tha General (look up his music on YouTube) and various other rappers from the Bay Area. She is street credible and has a ‘hood pass’ whether you believe it or not. Come to Oakland & see the kinds of people are on her team and have BEEN on her team for quite some time. RESEARCH AND LEARN BEFORE YOU WRITE, YOU SOUND STUPID & IGNORANT.

  • Kim

    You are one sad little girl. LOL!!! I truly hope you are not black, because you are a damn disgrace. Some of you have fallen so low that the gutter is absolute home to you. Just sad. I am so glad that my neices and nephews have turned out to be proud, black, educated men and women who would not even entertain the likes of you. Just disgusting.

  • pop-pop

    Kreayshawns last name is Zolot not Toloz

  • LemonNLime

    She not worth the comments I would make about her.

    All I have to say is I’m black and whatever THAT is, it’s NOT my culture. Also I wish I lived in a time where you actually had to have talent an order to have your face on everything.

  • carl

    thats why we have so many wars now because people are evil and so judge mental let her express her art this is america dont hate her cause she isn’t black love her because she love black people so much that she want to rap.

  • TCN

    I didn’t know who this chick was up until 5 minutes ago after trying to watch her video without vomiting prefusely onto my mouse. This is exactly what’s wrong in general when it comes to the perception of black people. Calling this art? Calling this expression of self? How dare anyone of you whether you are white or black cosign for such foolishness. For the person(s) that said she is “ghetto” so she gets a pass at bashing black people in the process of her poor imitation of black culture/hiphop culture you should reread your post and try to use whatever logic that is left in your little brain in order to see the big picture. So she may have or not produced videos for people who you define as “ghetto” and “hood” isn’t the issue…why? Because it’s obviously known that she was a film student at some point in time in her life so of course being a jumpoff producer for other rappers is believable and sure she might get credit for that but doesn’t equate to a “black pass”. Her name itself reeks of the “oh so hard” times she had growing up in the “ghetto” that only exists in her mind because anyone who is literate enough knows how her name is read and pronounced. Black people have to deal with the neck rolling, hip grabbing, crotch yanking, obsessive and excessive usage of slang, full on mockery based on stereotyping by others not only inside of the black community but especially outside of the community. So let’s get off the topic of race and into the politics of hiphop. Once again we’re dealing with a culture that can’t be limited to nor summed up by just one way of expression. Yet foolishness floods the mainstream and you bottom feeders who don’t know the difference between real and fake or faker seem to gobble that shit up whole. This is not a personal attack on her because i don’t know her personally but this about the career that she’s trying to build from bs that is deemed by her and her ignorant followers as self expression! She is a gimmick and she goes right on the list with the likes of beyonce, rihanna, bieber, timberlake, lady gaga, taylor swift, soldier boy, nicki minaj ..etc. (it’s a very long list lol). For Carl…the lost cattle, lost sheep “don’t hate her because she isn’t black love her because she loves black people so much that she wants to rap”. If you can find something wrong with this quote from your post then you are improving and your brain is starting to work again. As for the comments saying that blacks idolize and emulate european culture please tell me how and in what way then we can take a trip down memory lane to only uncover the truth behind it all. No one is forcing a white person to “act black” (that’s what it’s called in these cases) or to conform to a social standard based on biased racially charged idealistic point of views set by those who still to this day consider themselves superior to people of color. So on that note instead of reseaching this lame-o gimmick chick you might want to research in depth the history of black people, black culture,hiphop culture etc! Know what the fuck you’re talking about ok and have a blessed day : )

  • http://www.beatindablock.com Kelvin

    I know what they mean. It’s like the backwards baseball cap. When young black men started turning their hat backwards, everyone was saying it was gang signs, and it was tacky. Now old white men will be quick to turn their hat backwards to look cool and noone has a problem. The same thing with rap music, in the 90′s it was regarded as vile music that was tarnishing the black community. Now white girls hire the same rap producers that were vilified back in the day to help their career. Chris Rock said it best, “If it’s all white, it’s all right.” Notice how they’re judging the individual, but if a black girl acted like that, they would judge the whole black community.

  • Tanye’

    I don’t see anything wrong with this Kreayshawn chick, I’m an African American and the images presented in this video does not represent AA culture. We need to stop taking ownership of these kind of images. Everything that appears “hood” or “ghetto” is not OURs. I also do not have a problem with her entertaining us with the word Niggah, until we eliminate the word from our vocabulary.

  • jess

    You can use “wigger” but you have a problem with her using “nigger.” That makes sense.

    Derogatory is derogatory regardless of the history.

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    Wigger doesn’t hold the same weight as nigger…Last I checked, no one has ever lynched a white person for being a wigger.

    #2- I’m just calling it as I’m seeing it, she’s a wigger reject. Unlike other people, I’m not going to justify the terminology under some bs “term of endearment” excuse.

    Now please stop wasting my time with your insipid whining… Kthxbai. #fail

  • lsanderson

    Some talentless people will do anything for their 15 minutes of fame. She is going to become a favorite of the KKK and the white supremacists. The music sucks anyway. If she doesn’t sales albums. She is done! Next!

  • Shay

    I feel the same way about her as I felt about Soulja Boy. Hip Hop is cursed with these types of people. Her being white and saying nigga is the least of her problems. The fact that she SUCKS means everything. I think we CAN have a fie female white rapper. But THIS is HORRIBLE start. And THAT is NOT black culture. That’s shitty hoodrat ghetto culture (white or black). And there IS a difference.

  • Shay

    Her being white and saying the n-word is the least of her problems. The song SUCKS big time. And that is NOT black culture. That’s hoodrat ghetto culture and there IS a difference. What sucks is that there probably is a good white female rapper out there who gets no recognition while this tripe is about to get a deal with Sony. It’s sad.

  • Shay

    why isn’t my comment posting?

  • snickerz

    What exactly do you mean by this statement…?

  • OH! OH! I KNOW!

    There’s NOTHING even remotely ‘authentic’ about a swaggajackin wannabe just because you deem her to be.

    Her music sucks and I know plenty of black femcees that will bury her in lyrical style and whatnot.

    Just because she’s white is why she’s getting her shine.

  • MochaQueen

    Yes. Boy I tell you , Black people are becoming more and more permissive of White people’s behavior by the second. I will never in any day allow a White person to use that word towards me, be it a slur or a term of endearment.

    Not only that but she just reminds me of the typical hipsters on the internet running around using the n word like it’s second nature.

    It’s funny how when a White person uses the word as a racial slur, they cry about how they are the product of their own environment and they can’t help it when they get called out on their usage. A lot of Blacks get mad about that, and rightfully so.

    But somehow,because she’s White, and from the hood, it’s OK with people?
    HOW is she any different? HOW is this argument any different?
    Why’s White femaleness so sacred and celebrated? Why are people proud enough to defend her in the first place?
    Smh. We free yall, we free.

  • Sara

    she looks ghetto and ugly.simple as that.

  • Jim

    Chris Rock was only quoting that. The phrase has been a round a long, long time. And there’s a whole lot of history behind it. “If you’re white, all right. If you’re brown, stick around. If you’re black, stand back.”

  • Oreocookies

    Nobody is ever original. Everyone steals from everyone else. Kreayshawn is a product of her environment. If you grow up in the hood you gonna act hood. People should be free to make any type of music they want without others thinking they are taking from their culture. There is only one race…The “human” race. Stop the black vs white thang. It’s gettin’ old.

  • TCN

    My post never made it on here and i wonder why. Sorry she gets no pass for being “hood” or “ghetto”. She’s a gimmick and all those who are being passive by calling it ART aren’t seeing the big picture s. Stop making excuses for people who ARE NOT black that mock you with these stereotypes. Stop making excuses for people who ARE black that mock you with these stereotypes. Stop making excuses!!!

  • http://facebook.com/ydocrevul Kendall

    Just because she chose to do hip-hop instead of country music doesn’t automatically make her black or associate her with any type of culture. I’m a WHITE FEMALE and I enjoy this song because it goes hard in the paint. Everyone should smoke a blunt. And stop hatin’. We should all just be niggah’s and love one another. Again, I am still a WHITE FEMALE. I’m a functioning member of society.

    How you like them apples?

    -Your nig, Kendall.

  • treybaby

    I don’t have answers, just a few questions: If hip hop is “black culture” does that make punk rock “white culture”? Doesn’t appropriation work both ways? (ie: nobody nay-says Kanye remaking a Daft Punk song, or the current trend of African Americans wearing mohawks etc ) If there is a word that only a certain population are allowed to say, does that mean it’s ok if there is a country club that only a certain population can attend? (ie: this is OUR club and you’re not allowed, which is the argument I hear about use of the N word). There are not definitive answers, just some food for thought. (ducks)

  • JimBob

    It’s this kind of trash thinking that propagates more and more racism. Let’s make sure we completely seperate “black” and “white” cultures so no white man can make a dollar off of black man. Why dont you go back in time 60 years and see what segregation was like for your father and grandfather. We should all be happy that people, unlike yourself, are so apathetic about race that they can enjoy “black” music and culture and incorporate it into who they are.

    “Black culture is diverse with various meanings; and how one defines Black culture varies from individual. In the case of Kreayshawn, I’m referring to her misinterpretation of what she thinks Black culture and hip-hop is.”

    So what is hip-hop then? It seems to me that it is an ever evolving genre of music. This girl has her own interpretation of what good music is, as did 50 cent, B.O.B. , Outkast, Lil Wayne. Do not even try to tell me that those four artists have the same style. They dont. Yet they are all hip hop artists. So who are you to say that this girl is misinterpreting?

    If hip-hop has become a gimmick its because of the men and women at the top, white OR black, who have figured out the best way to make a dollar and are catering to that.

    “Clearly I’m not Kreayshawn’s targeted audience, and I’m totally opposed to spending money on a White artist who loosely drops the n-word in casual conversation.”

    Again travel back in time 200 years and live your great great great grandfathers life. Go work on a farm 20 hours a day, hands bleeding, back broken, being called a Nigger by a white slaveowner. He’d slap you silly for uttering the word but you probably say it 100 times a day. No one should use the word, white or black.

    If you do not like her music, you are entitled to your opinion, feel free to say so. Leave race out of it otherwise you just end up sounding like a rasict.

  • Eros

    I am born and raised in East Oakland, and saying that is not a point to brag about. We constantly live in the middle of violence drugs and bs tactics from those in political power to keep us quiet and content. Not only have I never heard of this girl until today, she, nor anything in her video represents black culture within Oakland or anywhere else. I refuse to get angry about stuff that doesn’t apply to me…Hood cred? Ghetto pass? Please, I have grown up with people who are white, Mexican and black. And in Oakland I have rarely seen a person who is not of color get a pass to say n***a…We have to remove ourselves from associating and identifying AA culture in 3 minute videos. No matter who you are and where you are from…This sucks.

  • rin

    the way you all already talking bout kreayshawn just proves……. she is ……….. # WINNING! lol

  • shell

    do you all make this same fuss about NIKKI MINAJ… because she is not black and NEVER claims to be black ( african american) she embraced the culture she has used the N word? just because her skin is dark dont mean nothing cause like i said she NEVER claims to be african american…… where is the article on her? ummmmm double stanard much?

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  • Tasha

    She is from the BAY area. It is different out here!
    I’m 27 born and raised– half black/white and still living in the BAY.
    *****SOME not ALL****BLACKS / WHITES/ ASIANS/ LATINOS/ PACIFIC ISLANDERS/ MIXED folks/ NATIVE AMERICANS/ MIDDLE EASTERNERS use the term “NIGGA”

    well geez how did that happen? well let’s see! ****SOME**** black people DO use the term NIGGA and some white/asian/mixed/latino etcc have grown UP / Lived with/ HAVE FAMILY(BAY AREA IS HELLA MIXEDDDD) and have used the term in their day to day living.

    KREAYSHAWN is not from the eastcoast/south/SUBURBSSSS or some backward ass place. Bay area is progressive and no I’m NOT stating that non black people using the term NIGGA is progressive so don’t get it twisted.

    Come visit Berkeley( not BERKELY-do your homework! ) Oakland, San Francisco, Vallejo, Richmond, Pittsburg … And see how NON blacks interact with blacks here then go rewrite your article.

  • mew

    Nicki has African heritage. The fact that she’s not from Africa, she’s from Trinidad, doesn’t mean that she does not have any African heritage.

  • Cas

    Don’t you need some sort of money to get a Benz/BMW etc with a big set of rims and candy paint? Lets not forget our Jesus pieces and bracelets and watches with the colorful stones. Tell me you don’t see that in the hood and i’ll eat my laptop. An HD camera can be had pretty cheaply and editing software can be pirated. Jus saying

  • Sam

    Well, why is it okay for a black person to say the n-word, but not a white person? It’s like the gays. If they don’t want to be called faggots, they shouldn’t use the word. If a black person doesn’t like being called a nigger, they shouldn’t use the word. There is no “well I’m ____ so I’m allowed to say it because it’s about me.” No, that’s called a double standard and double standards are not acceptable.

    On the other hand, with Kreayshawn. Yes, she is using what is typically assigned to black people, specifically negative stereotypes. Although, what’s wrong with that? Plenty of people in real life get to act that way, so why can’t she?

    Also, if Kreayshawn cannot do what she wants in this sense, then black/mixed/dark girls like Beyonce, Rihanna, and Nicki shouldn’t be allowed to act white sometimes or make pop music or wear what is typically assigned to a white stereotype.

    Why does it matter, though? Arguments and articles like this only help deepen the racism between whites and blacks that our world already has. We’re helping dig a hole for the black and white communities. Can’t we just be ourselves?

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  • http://JIntrovert.tumblr.com JIntrovert

    UJMMMM Sanit Gold is not ghetto… ooh and wait what about MIA … ok im done .. . Thanks for reading guys.
    @jintrovert

  • Joe

    all this shit talk about culture this and that and the other.

    take all the racial aspects out

    she’s not good.
    She can’t rap.

    black or white. doesn’t matter. bad music is bad music.

  • http://twitter.com/YoCellie Celeste

    *blows whistle*
    Flag on the play.
    I don’t care if someone is from the Bay or New York City: if you’re not black, you don’t say the N-word. It has history. It’s not an accessory to throw into conversation just to “spice it up.” There a BILLION words in the English language and more so in others. Find something else to say to make one look less ignorant.

  • http://twitter.com/citizhateme Lady Shasha

    Maybe they’re saying that Hood or Ghetto culture is not synonymous with black culture. Black culture existed before hip-hip. Hip-hop came out of a certain part of black culture, and gangsta rap came out of a certain part of hip-hop. So this article just reduced all of black culture to a subgenre of a subgenre of a musical art form that was influenced by poverty in New York (originally). It is insulting to our culture to reduce it to a stereotype.

    All this is besides the point because Kreashawn has openly stated that this is a character she created, because she didn’t want to work at IKEA. At least she’s honest which is more that I can say for artists like Rick Ross (AKA Officer Ricky) and Wacka Flacka who glorify living criminal lives, when they are not. Hip-hop opened the door to people posing and being fake to begin with. It’s too late now to pic an choose who gets to do that.

  • http://twitter.com/citizhateme Lady Shasha

    So much word to your entire post. #cosign

  • http://oddculture.com Glossolalia Black

    On the one hand, I like art that makes me feel uncomfortable. On the other hand, I like outspoken women. On the third hand, I’m black, and yeah, I cringe anytime a white person says nigga, but hey, maybe it’s because I’m old and getting older by the minute and niggas ain’t what they used to be.

    I’m gonna be 39 here in a minute. I have seen a couple of generations (Y and Millennials) growing up with hip hop. Three if you count mine – I was a kid coming up in DC in the late 70′s/early 80′s, so yeah, in a tangential way I was “there”. White kids loved hip hop even back then.

    White kids ended up marrying black kids, generations of Americans grew up in the disenfranchised parts of town. Sure, people are prejudiced as hell still, but there’s a lot of white people out there that grew up close, feel comfortable, hell, may even get a hood pass from time to time. Not saying that she deserves one. But I can see where a girl like this is coming from.

    Rocking that exact same look back in 1986 D.C. on a black girl didn’t get the play that it does on a 2011 white girl from Oakland, but who cares. History marches on. The song is catchy, the politics are uncomfortable, and I’ll probably play it while I’m vacuuming the floor of my ghetto apartment, thank you very much.

  • Mitochondria

    I was very uncomfortable watching her video as well. I felt like she was just putting on a huge act, a caricature of all that has gone wrong with hip-hop.

    All that aside, the bottom line is that she is an AWFUL rapper. Her flow is terrible! I don’t see how anyone can take her elementary style and lyrics and say its great stuff. I would highly suggest for anyone who wants to see an example of a GREAT white female rapper, look up Amanda Blank. She’s not exploiting the hip hop culture in the same way Kreayshawn is, but listen to her. You cannot deny she has major skills. I don’t understand why she isn’t getting half of the publicity that this girl is!

  • http://twitter.com/ridethemaverick Maxine Shaw

    It’s equally problematic that every female emcee post Queen Latifah and MC Lyte who has had massive mainstream success all had to sell sex.

    Dear Bene,

    You’re a joke.

    Signed,
    Missy Elliott

  • jay

    huh? stealing black culture? Looks like a bunch of fools stealing skate culture if you ask me. But seriously, when I watch stuff like this I question the “authenticity” or at least the sincerity of all hip-hop/rap artists.

  • Morgan King

    Just factually, ‘Elvis Presley was not the originator of rock ‘n’ roll. That would be Chuck Berry’ is wholly incorrect to anyone who has any idea what they are talking about – while there’s no doubt that Rock music came directly from black musicians, Chuck Berry’s first single is from July 1955, Elvis’s is July 1954 (that song, ‘That’s All Right, Mama’ being a rendition of a 1947 song first recorded by black artist Arthur ‘Big Boy’ Crudup). If anything, Chuck Berry’s sound was closer to emulating the sound of almost-entirely white Western Swing performer’s guitar lines, rather than the almost entirely-black Jump Blues that influenced so many early rockers of all ethnic backgrounds.

    Regardless, nobody remotely educated about this subject would claim either Elvis or Chuck Berry as the originator of Rock music. Really – and what would have been much more appropriate for this article’s example – most casual music historians incorrectly cite white performer Bill Haley’s ‘Rock Around the Clock’ as the first Rock song from May 1954, but that itself is an almost note-for-note recreation of own earlier single, ‘Rock The Joint’ from 1952. That’s the single this article should be actually be addressing, because that is a tamer, censored cover of a song by unheralded black Rock pioneer Jimmy Preston’s ‘Rock the Joint’ from 1949. While the essence of what you are postulating in the first paragraph has some merit, it’s just inaccurate. You can hear it here on YouTube:

  • kyle

    extremely limited point of view…it seems like you know all about Black culture ya? where is your book on this important issue (no sarcasm)?

  • Morgan King

    Do I need to have a book to know what I’m talking about??

  • Carlos Morrison

    The really problem here is what Black Folks have done to hip hop. We have marginalized our own music. WE continue to place STYLE over SUBSTANCE and then get mad when others do the same….. Remember the “death” of political rap…i.e. Public Enemy, X-Clan, PRT, etc??…That was Our fault..Talk about “keep it real”? In the words of Chris Rock…”We keep it real dumb” …We said “To hell with political rap!!” and than we decided to go with the West Cost Gangsta Funk, i.e. NWA and now we all riding what I call the “Li Wayne train” to no where significant…… Is it any wonder that others (white rappers, etc) will take OUR lead and do the same…When we “grow up” in hip-hop maybe we will see a difference, in ourselves and others…. But to be real, Kreayshawn is not the real problem…
    WE are…..peace…

  • 123456

    SHE HAS NEVER USED THE WORD “NIGGA” IN ANY OF HER SONGS OR ON ANY OF HER VIDEOS….THAT WOULD BE HER SERIOUSLY CONFUSED SISTER VANESSA “VNASTY”. KREAYSHAWN HAS SAID THAT NUMEROUS TIMES ON CAMERA THAT SHE DOESN’T SAY IT, AND SHE DOESN’T APPROVE OF IT!!

  • Poor Me

    I get a kick out of how this writer knows who Kreayshawn is….I say Nia please. I’ve seen this girl grow up….it was just a matter of time before she got her break….lets not forget, like you did, that she not only wrote the song, she edited and produced the video. So before you carry on about someone “exploiting” “black culture” to get a rise out readers know your facts. News Flash for ya Spillane…the culture she represents is AMERICAN CULTURE….Queen Latifah selling sex….playa she never sold a sexxxy style….thats good rap…..WE LIVE IN AMERICA WE ARE CAPITALISTS….everything goes to the highest bidder…God Bless those American Greenbacks she will be stacking for shizzle my nizzle…
    Do you think Young MC or Ton Loc exploited black culture….This race crap is a tired issue

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  • Klara

    I completely respect the opinion of the writer and agree with you for the most part. May I say that your English is impeccable.

    Also, in music, the same thing happened with Punk. No one could agree whether it started here or in the UK… This is different because you feel that the media is exploiting your race.
    Honestly the media and Hollywood are unfair to all it’s a disgusting and shallow business and though there is art in it, it’s heavily deformed and processed.

    It’s unfair but why let it get to you? Most famous music isn’t even good anyway. I consider the songs of this girl more pop than anything- like she’s probably hired to be a good entertainer I don’t really see excessive talent. She’s just good at getting attention, probably by young women who want background party music or quotable “clever” remarks for facebook and shit. If it makes you feel better, I still think her attire looks ‘ghetto.”
    Are you going to diss the Rolling Stones next for being influenced by Muddy Waters? This isn’t really an industry about music-it doesn’t define who is the best at what. Just how much money they can make off these starry-eyed young musicians.
    Best of luck.

  • kevin

    AGREED. she sucks.

  • Vick

    Few points:

    1) You raise the issue of whether her image or persona is authentic. Well guess what, – many performer’s images/personas aren’t authentic, including many black rappers who are from lower class backgrounds raised in poor black neighborhoods. The super tough thug rapper image is just as much a construction or a persona as this girl’s fake whatever-it-is image. Very few start as raised-on-the-street felons or whatnot and then make it as big time entertainers, and then somehow keep that persona in a “real” way. At that point, once they’ve hit it big, that persona isn’t authentic anyway.

    To put it another way, hip hop suffers from being an odd art form where performers constantly present absurd, unreal images of themselves. Very few are the cartoon characters they present themselves as. But many will try to pass that image off as “real” because fans want to believe it is. I don’t see how one rapper presenting an obviously made up version of themselves is any different from 90% of the rapppers out there who are able to get away with it.

    2) All that being said, this video is a bit weirder than most. It straddles an odd line of being a blatant parody and being maybe, just maybe, serious. Frankly, I think it’s an outright parody. But if Kreayshawn thinks it’s not, and a lot of her fans don’t think it is, then yeah, it’s fair game for mockery. It’s a really weak attempt at being… well… whatever it is it’s trying to be, I’m not going to try to characterize it because I’m not familiar enough with that scene to name it correctly.

    3) As far as the “appropriation” charge goes… get over it. When you put something out there, it enters into the marketplace of ideas, free for anyone to snatch up and mimic it or change it around for their own ends. There will never be any laws against it, and it’s not even bad ethically since so much worthwhile art comes out of the process.

    Many times in history, it’s been the poor or oppressed appropriating the culture of those in power and reworking it for their own gain, and many other times it’s one comparatively more advantaged group snatching up the culture of the poor and oppressed. That’s just how it goes, deal with it. I don’t see how appropriation going one direction but not the other is better ethically. Appropriation is either bad or it isn’t. Personally, I don’t think it ever is. What matters is the quality of the art that comes out of the process of appropriation.

    Ideas flow where they may, you’re never going to stop it. Joining some Red Guards Culture Police Force is a losing cause. And besides, no one will ever think you’re cool.

  • Guest

    This isn’t hip hop. It’s pop. Most artists like this today are empty, malleable shells, conduits of a bigger, more absurd picture. Kreayshawn just happens to be a white female; all the more easier to paint a picture on. People will look on in awe. The more interest people take in her, hater or no, the more dollaz will roll in. She’ll be a temporary gold mine for all the money hungry dudes who run the industry. Then when she’s barren, they’ll toss her. Entertainment is like a circus nowadays and she’s the effing bearded lady.

    I absolutely hate the song. It’s effing garbage. I hate all music like this no matter who creates it–black, white, hispanic, asian, whatever. The lyrics are painfully stereotypical and simplistic, not to mention embarrassing. I’d rather somebody take an electrical drill to my ears. I can’t believe that mainstream cultivates such BS. It’s just a damn shame.

    But whatever, music is changing and this is what people like to listen to now. You can’t be mad if your own people are promoting the image. You can’t say she’s trying to be like anyone. She’s only imitating what she sees, after all, whether she’s being herself or not. Peace.

  • HK

    Vick, you make some very valid points.

    Furthermore, the writer has no real basis in questioning artist’s authenticity other than their own opinion.

  • Grace

    Catchy song but nothing great. I don’t care if she’s white or not. She’s still a basic b***** in her verses lol.

    My impression/read of her from watching her other videos, is that she’s an impersonator. She’s good at characterization. If you watch her Cooler Than Oral video and several similar ones, you will see her as who she is before she changed her image and language completely. I take it that she’s amused (by a lot of things) and decided one day that she would like to rap. Take off that “swag” and she’s just one of those art students I see on campus and from taking art classes. So, in the end its as if she’s amused by this whole “swagger” and “hip hop” black community, as if it’s an ethnography project. Someone did say Kraeyshawn is a character she made up. If so, that explains the whole “i smoke weed” and “being real” talk. Being real? How about she comes out more authentic. It’s cool if she is willing to rap with more intelligence and not dumb it down. I support her innovation, but, not with her rap career so far.

    To me, she’s selling dumb consciously and making money and fame off of it. I’d respect her and support her if she sold her intelligence instead. She’d do better acting and directing though. I mean, have you guys even heard her mix tape? Pfft. Her vocabulary and verses consists of “i’m gonna kill you” “bitch” “cat” and rhyming fly with sky and high repeatedly.

  • josef

    I’ve read a number of similar critiques of Kreayshawn. What I think is that, imagine using a similar critique on black musicians playing heavy metal, or black athletes playing golf. Imagine white athletes accusing a black golfer of mimicking white golf culture, etc. Is it really fair to claim that a certain style or culture can’t be adopted by people of other races of cultures? Should black people be discouraged from playing death metal because its a “white” musical culture?

  • http://twitter.com/OhmyyDarlene Darlene

    Carlos!! U couldn’t of said it better. I completely agree =)

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  • http://twitter.com/zaqgee Al Freydoh Saws

    Right, because when Sugar Hill records dropped Rapper’s Delight that wasn’t appropriation. When Sylvia Johnson went to New Jersey and grabbed 3 random dudes who weren’t rappers, dudes who had nothing to do with the then burgeoning hip hop scene in the Bronx, that wasn’t appropriation, right?

    It sounds like you already had a bone to pick, and Kreayshawn was just the straw man. Kreayshawn looks American to me. Until people stop fussing over who owns all this cultural capital, it will continue to be divisive.

  • You’ve Gotta Be Kidding Me

    ap·pro·pri·a·tion/əˌprōprēˈāSHən/Noun
    1. The action of taking something for one’s own use, typically without the owner’s permission.
    2. The artistic practice or technique of reworking images from well-known paintings, photographs, etc., in one’s own work.

    What’s your next article going to be? “Andy Warhol: Another Case of Appropriating Tomato Soup Culture”?? Music and film and fashion are ALL forms of art. Hell, even comedy is an art. Do you expect every artist to ask permission from every source of inspiration before they create whatever they are so inspired to make? And when it’s made, present press release discussing what it REALLY means, how you should respond, and why they did what they did? The joy of watching a movie, listening to a song, or looking at a painting is not in the form itself, but in how you view the form. Clearly Kreayshawn didn’t resonate with you. Big deal. Perhaps her image is not authentic, and her work is inspired or derived from “black culture.” But that’s putting an awfully small label on the culture of a large population, and an awful lot of blame on one girl’s work, just because you didn’t like it. The music industry is full of people copying each other, mocking each other, and inspiring one another. If this is the game you’re going to play, it’s going to be hard to keep up. And I’d really like to hear your views on how Andy Warhol mocked and misrepresented Cambell’s soup without the permission of the soup as a whole.

  • Guest

    If a white girl wants take on a musical genre typically dominated by black people, I think that is amazing. I think cultural sharing of art is a key component of making even better art. All I ask is that you actually fucking try to make good art / music, and don’t perpetuate negative cultural stereotypes to do so. The fact that this group got signed by replicating a trite 90s image of a “sista girl” from the hood as a quick ticket to fame is rather irritating. I feel like whoever signed / is going to sign white girl mob sat down at the record label meeting and said “ehh no talent, but ooooh, if we add some big hoops and give you a lopsided haircut, we’ll be in the money.” This is sad, because I bet there are female Eminems working their asses off out there to be real emcees, and these tricks get a deal instead of them.

    The real problem is that kreayshawn and the white girl mob are only borrowing the negative stereotypes from black culture to promote their success, while neglecting all things positive about black culture. Selling drugs, obsession with material possessions, smoking weed all day errrday… And they do so rather recklessly and irresponsibly while having no understanding of the social ramifications of doing so. This is both wrong and annoying as fuck regardless of whether you’re black or white. Yes, I’m talkin to your Soulja Boy and Waka.

    What is also really fucking annoying is the feigned ebonics lingo the white girl mob uses. If you ever visited the hood, or even took a basic linguistics class in college, you would recognizedtheir ebonics structure is all sorts of fucked up. saying “muhfucka” and “haterz” repeatedly does not mean you are speaking ebonics. And more annoying is the excessive use of the n word by certain members of the group. and if that wasn’t obnoxious enough, the fact that VNasty, white girl mob member, posted this absurd video on youtube ignorantly (and rather incoherently) defending her use of the n-word. I’ll be honest…I laughed a lot while watching… because it is some ignorant fuckery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9UFkQdGsG0

    On a more hysterical note…please watch her freestyles. Honestly, if you are going to post videos on you tube, YOU MUST DO BETTER. these made me cringe out of embarrassment for her…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pim1sbajVeA&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twR1i2VofI&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te-Y8Bu9YfA&feature=related

    And because I would love to see this group succeed, I have crafted some words of advice to you:

    1.) GO HOME AND PRACTICE. have your label book eminem or lupe for some rap lessons…
    2.) please stop saying the nbomb. it makes you look dumb. reeeal. dumb.

  • Guest

    If a white girl wants take on a musical genre typically dominated by black people, I think that is amazing. I think cultural sharing of art is a key component of making even better art. All I ask is that you actually effing try to make good art / music, and don’t perpetuate negative cultural stereotypes to do so. The fact that this group got signed by replicating a trite 90s image of a “sista girl” from the hood as a quick ticket to fame is rather irritating. I feel like whoever signed / is going to sign white girl mob sat down at the record label meeting and said “ehh no talent, but ooooh, if we add some big hoops and give you a lopsided haircut, we’ll be in the money.” This is sad, because I bet there are female Eminems working their asses off out there to be real emcees, and these tricks get a deal instead of them.

    The real problem is that kreayshawn and the white girl mob are only borrowing the negative stereotypes from black culture to promote their success, while neglecting all things positive about black culture. Selling drugs, obsession with material possessions, smoking weed all day errrday… And they do so rather recklessly and irresponsibly while having no understanding of the social ramifications of doing so. This is both wrong and obnoxious regardless of whether you’re black or white. Yes, I’m talkin to your Soulja Boy and Waka.

    What is also really annoying is the feigned ebonics lingo the white girl mob uses. If you ever visited the hood, or even took a basic linguistics class in college, you would recognize their ebonics structure is all sorts of effed up. saying “muhfucka” and “haterz” repeatedly does not mean you are speaking ebonics. And more annoying is the excessive use of the n word by certain members of the group. and if that wasn’t obnoxious enough, the fact that VNasty, white girl mob member, posted this absurd video on youtube ignorantly (and rather incoherently) defending her use of the n-word. I’ll be honest…I laughed a lot while watching… because it is some ignorant tomfoolery

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9UFkQdGsG0

    On a more hysterical note…please watch her freestyles. Honestly, if you are going to post videos on you tube, YOU MUST DO BETTER. these made me cringe out of embarrassment for her…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pim1sbajVeA&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twR1i2VofI&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te-Y8Bu9YfA&feature=related

    And because I would love to see this group succeed, I have crafted some words of advice to you:

    1.) GO HOME AND PRACTICE. have your label book eminem or lupe for some rap lessons…
    2.) please stop saying the nbomb. it makes you look dumb. reeeal. dumb.

  • razorsheldon

    It’s amusing to see your criticism veer from the quality of her music into her background and the authenticity of her character. While I think the Gucci Gucci song has a real catchy hook, I can see how others might disagree.

    But when you start attacking her character and making race baiting accusations, you are only making yourself look ignorant and uninformed. She grew up in West Oakland as a pretty little white girl. I know all about West Oakland, and that place is proudly ghetto. They don’t just hand out street cred there, and I’d venture whites are less than 10%, so she isn’t mimicking hood culture, she lived it first hand. Now if you notice, she acknowledges the challenges of growing up in such a difficult environment, yet she embraces it as making her who she is today.

    As for the Berkeley film school, she got a full ride scholarship. She’s made videos for some big name Bay Area rappers, and she just did the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ music video for their first single off their new album. Last I checked, they were a pretty big name band that doesn’t just hand out music video directing gigs to posers, so clearly she has a lot of talent as an artist.

    You can hate on her all you want but at least get your facts together before you spit that hate, and keep it focused on her music. Otherwise you simply look like a clueless, lazy journalist that is jealous of seeing somebody succeed as an artist.

  • Vincent from vallejo

    BOTTOM LINE! we see a reflection of our selves in every person we look at. And so when the writer of this article watched kreayshawn she automaticly became uncomfortable with a part of her OWN self!

  • Josh in West Oakland

    The writer of this piece of drivel would be well advised to check her facts before coming on with so much inane & uninformed & might I add tired rhetoric about cultural appropriation. Have you ever been to Oakland? Do you know where the San Antonio Park area is? It’s an area otherwise known as the Murder Dubs – its where Kreayshawn grew up. I live in Oakland so I actually know what I’m talking about… this isn’t a case of some rich girl from Berkeley putting on a mask or caricature of a distorted version of black culture – this is a girl from the hood who just happens to write her own material & direct her own videos & whom I might add is certainly not following either the image or the sound being represented by mainstream hip hop at all & is very much doing her own thing in contrast to all the slick, over-processed junk coming out these days. One more thing – I live in West Oakland, and I don’t know any black girls that dress like Kreayshawn… that’s for sure. Crap article.

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    Are all you Bay Area people this stupid or just the ones replying to the article?

  • http://twitter.com/LDK47 LDK

    Whether Kreayshawn is real or not, there are a lot of real-life Kreayshawns out there. 20-something white people who party, stay high, listen to bassy rap, will sell you bags of adderall, speak in second-hand (or not) ghetto slang, hook up with whoever, and rap with their friends. A lot of hip-hop artists have described themselves as being reporters about what is going on in their communities. Even Tupac didn’t have a criminal record until after he rapped about having one, so it’s not like authenticity entirely rests on having your every lyric be a literal truth about your actual life. Kreayshawn’s music reflects a certain very real slice of society, whether or not she is an actual participant in everything she raps about. In that way, her music is street reporting, just from a different street. Maybe you don’t like what’s going on on that street, but it’s definitely going on.

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  • Gue

    “You can’t be mad if your own people are promoting the image.”

    HA I love shit like that. Don’t white people get to have separate feelings and opinions? Is my mind and being not separate from those of the black individuals “promoting the image”?

    Seriously, that was a joke, right?

  • Usagi

    Kreyashawn isn’t copying black culture, it’s urban/hood culture. There isn’t that much different from a hillibilly from a hoodhat. Also, why don’t they show blacks doing any other genre of music besides r&b/hip-hop ? Also, the song is good and you’re being too sensitive.

  • guest

    Let this girl be, I don’t understand why everyonees hating on her. There’s pleanty other WORSE rappers in the buissness and no ones speaking on them. All because she’s a WHITE female rapper.. please, I thought we been past this. People are pathetic talking shit about her just bring her more fame. Either way she’s getting her $$$$$. Get over it. Its not that. Serious

  • BigBad

    Ha! Great beat. Hmmm….Natasia, get your money. If a record label is dumb enough to lend you 1 million dollars at no interest cost and you were dumb enough to get a 360 deal….buy lots of Gold earrings and wait till Gold hits 2500 a troy ounce.

    There are some sick disturbing people in the media.

    Im waiting for Music to crash, how long will this propaganda machine last?

    And btw, Kreayshawn is a racist, limited mind, moniker. Why not Nasty Nastasia or some other ish?

    Either way, she claims to be hood, yet her whole image screams fake. I can see California kids bumping this in their brainwashed, Hollyweird neighborhoods, but if you live east of the grand canyon and blast this, you should be embarrassed.

    BTW, she is dressing like an NYU students used to about 4 years ago. I swear skaters, and hipsters are such drool buckets. Filling themselves with other peoples spittle and passed on fashion. If anything, she should consider moving to the UK, shed be HUGE over there….The Chav culture would embrace her and perhaps she can ask Lady Sovereign for some tips…

    When will the hidden hand in media understand that the 90′s are over. You can no longer force feed bs propaganda agents down our throats: see Radio Payola schemes, Drake, Rihanna, Lady Gagme….

    But what do I know? Its not like seagrams stock sucked, downloading is rampant, and 360 deals are now the norm…ammmirrright.

  • Bobrossqueen

    If she is who she says she is, and was raised in East Oakland, then she is authentic. She would have lived in harder parts of the world Than Kanye.

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  • Felicia

    I honestly don’t understand the rigid inability of so many to accept that maybe she is who she says she is, maybe she is actually from East Oakland, maybe she actually did grow up around kids who “loosely dropped the n-word in casual conversation” (and thus it would be equally as unreasonable to expect her to drop the habit as it would be for us to expect any black kid from Oakland who uses the word to do the same). I’m not saying her music is good, or that her image isn’t exploitative or problematic, but how many black youths coming out of the hood have to answer to the same questions that we are asking her, have to prove that they are authentic? If a black dude says he comes from East Oakland, said the n-word, made shitty music and exploited the stereotypical “gangsta” image, we would probably (and rightfully) find what he stands for problematic, but would we be questioning his very identity, who he is? Why is it that this girl can say she’s from a certain place and that’s why she talks, dresses, acts the way she does (whatever implications such a statement would have, and that’s a conversation to be opened up to all people living with that mentality, across races; because it’s not impossible to be white and to also be “from the hood,” you know?), and yet we refuse to believe her, where we would otherwise take the truth of the statement for granted if coming out of a black mouth?

  • BWAGATB

    It is really annoying to see this Black female mocking fool defended on this site of all places. Just sayin’.

  • BWAGATB

    THANK YOU Chanela. I am really sick & tired of the Black entertainment industry and Black culture/people in general co-signing that double standard bs.

  • Don’t care

    “America has always capitalized off of Black culture.” So? Bene Viera, get over it and shut up.

  • Don’t care

    Felicia, well said.

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  • Clyde

    Bene, you are delusional. You are saying that only blacks can do hip hop, and a white hip hop artist is an exploitation of black culture? It is 2011, get real. One of the biggest names in country is black (Darius Rucker). There are plenty of metal bands with African-American members. It doesn’t matter if you are green or purple. One genre doesn’t belong to any color. It sounds like you are a racist.

  • http://twitter.com/nanayaa_a Nana Yaa

    Only issue I disagree with is Justin Timberlake. He has the talent and the voice to sing whatever he chooses. I love his music.

  • nbee33

    Everyone who’s saying “oh well she doesnt have the right to act ghetto because she’s not black” is hella dumb. YOU probably never been at, near, or around the hood. When you’re from THE HOOD you are hood regardless if your white, black or mexican. Everyone that’s hating on her, must really be bored with their lives. She’s from East Oakland trying to get out the hood. Her life probably isn’t as lavish or as Gee is yours but at least she’s putting her name out there doing something with herself. Everyone in the hood or the projects says n-gga. Whoever wrote the article doesnt know ish about the hood. Any and every race in the hood says nigga, that’s what we were brought up around, EVERYONE in MY hood says n-gga. So he/she who does not know, shall not speak. Nuff said.

  • Chekira

    Okay,seriously.Leave her alone.As long as she doing WHAT SHE LOVES,and getting her money,it shouldnt matter.So what,about her looks?Those dont matter.What matters,is that she loves what she’s doing.You really wasted alot of time,writing this article on her.

  • brandi

    Whooooosh!

  • hermex

    I don’t think Kreayshawn takes herself as seriously as you think. I think she’s just playing with the images she grew up with in Oakland, where white kids and black kids actually coexist and share culture. There are white rappers, black skaters, and everyone’s smoking blunts. So this girl with hipster glasses and ghetto jewelry is kind of a perfect expression of a generation that actually crosses color lines freely. Call it exploitation or celebration, I doubt think anyone’s getting hurt. She’s not stealing record sales from black artists. And I would disagree that she has no talent.

  • AngryNagger

    So because black people invented hip hop they should get a say in what music comes out in the genre almost a half-century later? A white guy invented basketball, does that mean black people wanting to play should seek approval from white america before hitting the court?

    “Clearly I’m not Kreayshawn’s targeted audience, and I’m totally opposed to spending money on a White artist who loosely drops the n-word in casual conversation. ”
    But I suppose you have no problem with any of the other black hip-hop artists whose lyrics are littered with the word nigga or some variation on nearly every line. In other words, you are opposed to spending money on her because she is white. You don’t think that every modern rapper with any commercial success at all isn’t “appropriating black culture” in the exact same way K$ is? or is it okay for everyone else to do it because they are black? This is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle racist…

    Seriously the author of this article needs to get real. It’s no suprise that this was the last article she wrote for clutch magazine… I wouldn’t want a self righteous bigot writing for my website either..

  • Kim

    Thank you Oh Great Mr or Mrs White man or woman for coming to this site and setting us darkies straight. Master, we sure do miss being whipped and put in our place. Thank you Master. You sure is good.

  • Kim

    Well I don’t come from thehood, but if she or you ever spoke to me the way she speaks about “N***ers, you both would loose some teeth. Young black folk around me don’t speak that way and there is no way YOU would ever get away with it. Keep thinking that you have a right to do what ever it is you want. Someone will end up taking you out.

  • anon

    hey kim, what would MLK be if he were white? answer: alive

  • MissTeesha

    This article has raise some deeper discussions and the comments have made me want to post my opionin. Again Iam stating my personal thoughts so please dont take it so personal and bash what I say. First I want to address the N word. We all know the origin of this word. If this was 60 years ago maybe her use of the word would be offensive.But now people of all races say the N word, which doesnt make it right or wrong. But lets look at another word, let say B*TCH. This word is used freely as well.I have hear girls call each this in casual conversation as well. In the urban and hip hop culture the webster definition of a word is often not infered the same. However, me personally I dont swap the N word or the word B*tch freely with my friends.If I say either one Iam using the word as it is meant to be used. If you consider yourself relavent to hip hop and black culture, then the use off a word not used literally shouldnt be an issue.If she was saying the word with malice intent and trying to degrade a person then we would be having a different conversation. My last example is the word tight, literly we know that means form fitting, but in the urban culture it means something completely different. I am a black women, but i dont get so caught up in the words of another person, iam pretty sure someone can say much worse.

  • MissTeesha

    The second issue is that anybody who puts themselves out there as a rapper or whatever. Be prepared for the critics. Rappers and credibility does go hand and hand. There are many rappers that are not what they rap, but because they are good at their craft, the public or their fans disregard that. I feel that Kreayshawn is doing her because I am from Atlanta and no relevant rapper out here is doing what she is doing. Whether or not i like her style is not the real debate here. I never had been to the west coast or Oakland for that matter so I don’t know anything about the girl or her lifestyle. But what I like about music in general is if it’s positive. I am no gangster, drug dealer or any of the above that some rappers rap about. What makes me listen your music is if i can relate. And really that’s what hip hop is. It’s relating to your people. Something about the music, where people feel the artist do what I do or they feel how I feel connects people to the music. Hip Hop is always changing, in some good ways and some bad. But back to the point I was trying to make which was the fact that people get mad when a new artist comes on the scene and they get critiqued. Please hold that ish because Obama being a black president got the race card so race is always going to be something ppl talk about when analyzing someone. I am not saying it’s right but that’s the way of the world. And coming in an industry that’s based on image and not what you are actually rapping about that’s a gimme. A lot of music nowadays is a catchy beat and a simple hook that people can bob their head to. That’s the definition of mainstream hip hop now. This is a business and the mighty dollar is the CEO. So her being white of course she is going to be judge, every rapper is judged in their own way. Black people are a people of pride; well actually humans off all races have pride for what’s theirs. Anybody that doesn’t look like them can be a threat. Its animalistic behavior, kind of territorial. But it’s in everybody, a little inking of pride in your race and when someone not of your race enters what you claim, you judge. When tiger came into golf, i know white people were like really? And the fact that people were caught up in his ethnic background. its natural to judge and we all do it subconsciously. Also rap is known to be dominated by black people, so when someone not the norm comes in the picture, yeah judgment will be passed.

  • sup

    you mad?

  • gaby

    If Kreayshawn wasn’t talented, she wouldn’t have her music played on the radio, and nominated for an MTV video award. Come on you have to have SOME talent for that. Just saying. Other artists like Kesha are a joke not Kreayshawn. So leave the girl alone she’s just doing what she wants to do. It’s called individuality and creativity who cares if it isn’t real hip-hop/rap. She’s having fun. People need to stop taking things so seriously.

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  • DamnMan212

    @BigBad please. you guy in the US can keep her she’ll just as unwanted here as well

  • Rowdy Rochelle

    hmm…it’s funny that you say Kreayshawn is taking advantage and abusing “black culture”. Why is it that only people of black and african decent can smoke blunts and rap? I’m just as white and I smoke a blunt everyday.

  • a………..grey

    BLAHBLAHBLAH…

    you want to talk about breaking racial barriers and getting past racism, well kreayshawn is that product of what a new generation of young, post-racial people are like. they don’t care about stupid notions of “appropriation”. appropriation is the weakest argument people use when they feel that “others” (in this case a white girl) are exploiting their (in this case, black) culture… we ALL appropriate things in our daily life, whether we’re conscious of it or not… especially if you’re an artist. some artists are just better at taking those influences and making them their own (ie; FOOLING YOU into thinking that they’re creative geniuses).

    guess what? we live in a society where EVERYTHING culturally is up for grabs, so your notions of (black) cultural purity reek of racism… yes, i went there.it’s no better than whites going on about “mud people” destroying “their culture”.

    also, all the claims that she’s a major-label creation are completely false. she recorded “gucci gucci” herself AND produced the video. that it became a huge hit because of the blog/viral culture that exists on line… it’s all hit or miss. some things blow up, some don’t. it’s all a crap shoot, and in kreayshawn’s case, she accidentally hit the jackpot. so what if isn’t the greatest rapper? she’s ackowledged as much in interviews, and said that she’s new to the game. that mixtape that everyone loves slagging? she never planned on millions of people wanting to hear that stuff, it was all just done for fun. the tape she did w/ nattymari came out after she blew up, though it was recorded way before all this hype… no ne plans on fluke fame. it just happens.

    by the way, her last name is ZOLOT, not toloz. shows how much you need to learn a bit more about a subject before you start typing…. i guess i should expect as much from the blogosphere.

    oh yeah, wanna take a guess what my ethnicity is? i’ll bet you’d be wrong. does it matter?

    post script…. i’m not even a big fan, but i HATE poorly written bullshit.

  • http://consweatman.wordpress.com Conrad

    Keyshawn’s happy to make a buck even if it involves a bit of cultural exploitation and
    lack of political correctness. The author takes exception to this, in spite the reality that Hip Hop has perennially, if not ubiquitously, espoused attitudes of misogyny, homophobia, and an alacrity about money-making through drug-dealing, pimping, and other forms of exploitation. Is there a double standard at play here? Isn’t Keyshawn acting, at least in some sense, according to the same logic that animates much of the genre of music that she’s appropriating?

  • ElementEZ

    I bet a lot of you women have their hair permed….appropriation of white culture!!!

  • T

    well said

  • guest2

    Yes, it is that serious. And the fact that you think isn’t just goes to show how ignorant you are.

  • Katie

    This is the dumbest article ever. You should do more research on the girl or at least get your shit right before you make a fool of yourself.

    I’ll just say, her targeted audience is more toward the ‘Hollywood Undead’ crowd. It’s another genre in itself.

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  • Angela

    Justin Timberlake is slightly inaccurate. NSYNC was of course essentially a Pop group, but they always had a history of infusing R&B and Hip Hop in their music. However when Timberlake did go solo he really laid it on thick.

  • The White Detroit Red

    Stop playing basketball! That’s blacks appropriating white culture!

  • SaraMilena

    1. I think she talks and dresses like that because she grew up in East Oakland with mostly black people, and she’s the type of person to glorify that rather than want to get away from it, just like a lot of black people growing up there do.

    2. I think she isn’t overly sexualized because she’s skinny and wears baggy t-shirts and big nerdy glasses.

    3. She doesn’t use the N-word, except the one DMX quote on twitter.
    Her friend V-Nasty did until she realized how much people outside of her neighborhood hated her for it. That girl has got bigger problems. She is hood in the worst of ways, has been in jail several times for armed robbery… Doesn’t make it ok, just makes it kinda ridiculous to even talk about.

    4. I agree that she is untalented and juvenile and she comes off as – well, what are you going to say about someone who writes a song about how they don’t wear designer clothes, they have their own style – ? She sounds 15, not 21.

    5. Would she have had a hit with Gucci Gucci if she had been black? Honestly – it’s the catchiest shit I have heard in years. It’s insane how catchy it is. Sick. Dumb as shit. But I consider it possible.

  • http://harshbrowns.wordpress.com harshbrowns

    Thank you so much for this article. I’m a QPOC based in Melbourne, Australia frustrated by cultural appropriation in various scenes here (and beyond). I linked to your article, and it influenced me in writing this post
    http://harshbrowns.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/the-kreayshawn-complex-cultural-appropriation-as-counter-cultural-expression/

  • Dalton

    You be lookin bitter, she be lookin better.

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  • David Elms

    As usual, you black haters love to play the victims, then aptly take advantage of the double standard. Yes, it’s quite alright if you #@#ck up the English language, using only parts that serve you, then code-switch in front of crackers like a bunch of kiddy clubbers, yet sick Jesse Jackson (philanderer) on us if any crackers want a club,or to complain that cracker English language testing is unfair. Finally, you push your shit values on a predominantly Christian society and force us to be “tolerant”, yet when a white girl attempts to embrace your glorified idiocy, you slam her to your curb. I’m over y’all…completely. No compassion left for your lost culture. Get some real leaders to follow! BTW, your hero Prez is a devout follower of white Communist….congratulations on moving your culture forward!

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