Syd the KydSyd the Kyd is the only woman in the controversial rap crew Odd Future, who are known for pushing the envelope with their overly misogynistic and violent lyrics. As the resident DJ, Syd is one of forces holding the loose collective together. Now, she’s striking out on her own and teaming up with fellow crew member Matt Martians to form spin-off group, The Internet.

Recently Syd and Martians sat down with LA Weekly to discuss their upcoming project and what it means that Syd is an openly gay rapper in an industry with very few openly gay and lesbian role models.

During the interview, Syd called out Queen Latifah, Alicia Keys, and Missy Elliot, saying they should come out of the closet.

Syd explains: “There’s Alicia Keys, who’s married to Swizz Beats – we know that shit ain’t real. You got Queen Latifah kissing Common in movies. Missy Elliott saying she don’t wanna hang with bitches. You know she loves her some bitches.”

She continues, explaining why she decided to come out in the video for ‘Cocaine’:  “I decided to do it because I wish I had someone like that [an openly gay female artist] while I was coming up. People write on my Tumblr just thanking me for making the video, saying that I really inspire them, and they want to be like me. But I wasn’t always this way, this comfortable with myself, and I remember what that was like. So I figure, fuck it. Everyday people aren’t given this opportunity and I realize that. And I didn’t at first. I thought I was just lucky to be along for the ride.”

What do you think? Why aren’t there many openly gay and lesbian rappers? 

 

*Read more at the LA Weekly.

  • sweety lav

    is she serious? it’s not your job to out people or force them out of the closet – no matter what you think about it.

  • Whatever

    While I agree with her list of lesbians in the industry that aren’t fooling anyone, It is pretty obvious why both male and female entertainers are not openly out… MONEY and SALES. I’d also like to add mc lyte and jada pinkett smith to that list as well.

  • BlaqProgress

    Latifah MARRIED her girlfriend a year or two ago. So what she kissed Common in a movie- its called ACTING! Thats what you supposed to do- ACT! It’s obvious this Syd the Kyd person does not know what she is talking about!

  • http://swaggaofacollegekidd.wordpress.com Carrie

    I think we demand too much of our entertainers. They are supposed to entertain, not be role models. Frankly, just because WE don’t know their sexual orientation doesn’t mean they’re in the closet. It means its none of our business. If Syd wants to wear her sexuality on her sleeve, fine. That doesn’t mean everybody else has to.

  • RiddleMeThis

    Here’s what I can’t stand. . . WHY folks feel the urge to “out” people. WHY is it important to you whether a person openly admits “hey, i’m gay/lesbian!” Why must it be a proclamation? You don’t see straight people doing that.

  • CD86

    I LOATHE people who think it is within their right to police other people’s sexuality!

    Why have people always accused Alicia Keys of being a lesbian/bisexual anyway? Is it because she used to wear braids?

    This reminds me of a co-worker/acquaintance I had who stated she believed me to be a lesbian in front of the manager because I was wearing a buffalo plaid shirt. I don’t know what she thought she was doing by making such an announcement. Did she think I was going to break down and confess something.

    Ugh!!!

  • Vertigo Schtick

    “You got Queen Latifah kissing Common in movies. [...]”

    And openly gay Matt Bomer and Neil Patrick Harris play straight men. What’s the point of this exactly…? Who said she hasn’t come out? We don’t deserve to know anyone’s sexuality based on star status alone. Besides, parents and peers have way more influence on a young LGBTQ child’s self esteem than some actor/actress making millions.

  • SxyDread

    she needs to SIT DOWN. first off, no one knows who the hell she is. secondly, no one cares who she is. third, who the hell does she think she is trying to “out” anyone’s sexuality? why not worry about her own and her damn career rather than trying to strum up publicity for herself? loser.

  • iQgraphics

    A. Keys has a “demeanor” to her where if she played the fence, I would not be surprised but that’s besides the point.
    I agree w you. They are people too.

    and PLAID

    **DEAD**

    hahahaha!!

  • Rj

    Being heterosexual is accepted, embraced and celebrated throughout our culture in ways that are both obvious and also subliminal. No one has to make the declaration that they are heterosexual because that is expected. People choose to come out of the closet so that they can 1) Live their lives openly and not have to lie to their friends, families and coworkers about who they are. 2) So that they can serve as an inspiration for others who wish to do the same.

    For the sake of intellectual honesty, please don’t try to pretend that heterosexuality and homosexuality are regarded or treated in the same way in our society. There are millions of men and women throughout the world who are living in suffocating closets and are afraid to come out due to family rejection and the fear that they will not be able to succeed. Seeing that there are gay people who are out and proud about who they are and who are also succeeding, helps those gay people who are suffering to feel comfortable with themselves and gives them hope that they too can achieve happiness and success.

  • B

    I agree with everyone else who commented. This is ridiculous. She needs to mind her own business and go read a book or two. I’m lesbian and I can’t stand it when other gays say, “That guy/girl needs to come out of the closet.” or “I can turn him/her.” Stop concerning yourself with the sexuality of other people!

  • iQgraphics

    These people mentioned by Syd are people!
    They are entitled to their privacy.
    Everyone is not comfortable being the poster for a cause.

    Fall back. Live and let live.

    Go kick a freestyle or something.

  • s.e.m.

    I agree with you totally, I work in entertainment. I have seen a lot…but it isn’t anyone’s place to out them..Gay straight…we don’t go around saying hey I”m straight!…You are rt they are suppose to entertain and that’s it!!

  • http://purpleskyyys.blogspot.com InnaLeigh

    Hmmm…
    Anyone that told her that they liked or related to her video “Cocaine” must have a problem. She got a girl on drugs and then at the end of the video threw her out the car like a Mcdonalds big mac wrapper…. Now how does that show lesbian pride???

    This society is twisted, and so is the industry. Like someone said, we expect too much from entertainers. They are going to do whatever they want at the end of the day. She knows that.

  • LemonNLime

    Like the other comments, I can’t stand, have no respect for, and can’t support someone who feels like it is within their right to out others and make them announce their business to the world. They are entertainers, that is what they do, they don’t owe anything to anyone regarding their personal lives. Heteros don’t make a declaration regarding their sexuality, why must anyone else? And she may be a lesbian but she most def isn’t a role model to other LGBT youth with that kind of attitude.

  • Rj

    On some level, I agree with this chick (whoever she is). I think that it is important for young LGBT people to have role models so that they know that they are not alone and that they can reach their goals and not be encumbered by homophobia etc. I also think that it is important for black people to see that LGBT people are not boogie monsters. There are very few openly gay black people compared to our white counterparts. The more of us who come out, the more strides we will be able to make in terms of equality and acceptance.

    On the other hand, everyone has the right to come out in their own time. It is an intensely personal choice and can have so many negative ramifications, particularly for people of color. Black LGBT youth are twice as likely to be kicked out their homes for being gay. I work with many LGBT youth who have been abandoned by their families and now live on the streets. And many black adult LGBT folks lose their families and sometimes even their careers. This is not something that should be taken lightly.

  • Bisous

    1) I LOVE Syd. I admire alot of what she does working in a largely male dominated feild and produsicng work which stands out on its own. 2) I don’t believe I’ve ever seen her featured on this site before, but a quote taken out of context is the first full write up I’ve seen of her on here. She isn’t a rapper and The Internet are still under the Odd Future label. 3) I think she is a really possitive person and sweet to alot of her fans you should read how she talks to them on tumblr. I think the point of this is people can be hypocritical. I don’t know if these women are gay, but if they are they don’t have to be afraid to hide it. They don’t have to decline to speak on it either. So many kids feel uncomfortable to talk about these things or like they aren’t “normal” for liking people of the same sex. Beating them doesn’t work, telling them things are gross or unatural doesn’t work either. If you are a celebrity and you are homosexual be so brazenly, but don’t let it over power you life. Also produce great work!!! Show others that your life isn’t only about who you choose to love, but I you DO love someone do so unabashedly.
    To often on this site I see you are ready to dismiss someone based on age or experience. When will you learn that alot of kids have a better grasp on things than you assume? Yeah she didn’t choose her words the best, but I agree with alot of what she had to say…

  • iQgraphics

    I think people who “like” the vid like it conceptually. It’s done well. and as far as LGBTQ pride is concerned, just showcasing the young couple is what I think folks are proud of. Every music vid with a hetero couple isn’t rosey. But the song itself has the lyrics “ignore the consequences” and something about “looking for a quick B__ to f___” so with that in mind, it does not glamorize the drug use.
    I think it was purposeful in the way that art is objective.

  • iQgraphics

    Here’s the thing. The artists she mentioned came before her. They made POWER moves regardless of the stigmas attached to their sexual preferences. I hope she realizes that she is not the first to question or bring up the orientation of women she mentioned. These women have broke boundaries and garnered leaps and bounds of success.

    So why can’t she just say, thanks.

    It’s because of them that she AS A WOMAN can be taken seriously in this industry.

    And they did it UNENCUMBERED by putting a spotlight on themselves regarding who they chose to lay next to at night.

  • KT

    She is out of place to be outing people. People should have the right to come out on their own terms and if and when they feel the need to. To the person who said she is nice/kind. I disagree. And further more it’s judgemental to call someone a hypocrite just because they have decided to protect themselves from the vicious repercussion of being LGBTQ.

  • http://www.purplekeychain.blogspot.com purplekeychain

    “Go kick a freestyle”

    Hahaha!

    Totally agreed. People are not obligated to share any part of themselves with the public simply because they are famous.

  • Srenda

    Who cares who they like sleeping with? They’re sexual preferences aren’t anybody’s business but theirs. Sexuality is also a complex thing. Sometimes people are bi-curious in certain periods of their lives and explore that. sometimes these allegations are baseless as claiming that just because a woman walks with a swagger, always wears pants, doesn’t appear to be submissive that she must somehow like **ucking other women. Why do we put people in our own boxes then project our shit onto them.

  • CD86

    “I don’t know if these women are gay, but if they are they don’t have to be afraid to hide it. They don’t have to decline to speak on it either.”

    I think KT’s response, “…They have decided to protect themselves from the vicious repercussion of being LGBTQ.” answers why people are afraid and decline to speak.

  • Rj

    I agree with you to an extent. But I can tell you from personal experience that people thinking that you are gay and knowing that you are gay are two very different things. People think Queen Latifah is gay but they will still support her because it hasn’t been confirmed yet. The minute she comes out, her career may very well be in jeopardy.

  • iQgraphics

    Queen Latifah came out already. She is currently producing the show “single ladies” for vh1 and she just did the red carpet for her gospel movie on Monday.

    And loves her girlfriend dearly.

    career. check.

  • http://www.purplekeychain.blogspot.com purplekeychain

    “…she is a really positive person”

    Um, no. To call people “bitches” in an unfriendly context does not make a person positive, SORRY! As Latifah said:

    Trying to make a sister feel low
    You know all of that gots to go
    Now everybody knows there’s exceptions to this rule
    Now don’t be getting mad, when we playing, it’s cool
    But don’t you be calling out my name
    I bring wrath to those who disrespect me like a dame

    So, yeah… ’nuff said.

    “If you are a celebrity and you are homosexual be so brazenly, but don’t let it over power you life. Also produce great work!!! Show others that your life isn’t only about who you choose to love, but I you DO love someone do so unabashedly.”

    Again, NO. A person’s sexual orientation and/or preference is none of anyone else’s business. Full stop. FURTHERMORE, if there is one celebrity who is NOT “brazen” it is Queen Latifah. And she shouldn’t have to be in order to have a personal life.

    I mean, I get that, as celebrities, there is some level of privacy that people give up for their fame. They have this weird responsibility to share certain parts of their lives with fans, because without fans they wouldn’t have jobs OR fame. But there are some things that deserve to be kept private at a person’s discretion. A celebrity does not OWE me details of their sex life. Furthermore, I couldn’t care less what kind of sex people have.

  • http://www.purplekeychain.blogspot.com purplekeychain

    “…she is a really positive person”

    Um, no. To call people “b=tches” in an unfriendly context does not make a person positive, SORRY! As Latifah said:

    Trying to make a sister feel low
    You know all of that gots to go
    Now everybody knows there’s exceptions to this rule
    Now don’t be getting mad, when we playing, it’s cool
    But don’t you be calling out my name
    I bring wrath to those who disrespect me like a dame

    So, yeah… ’nuff said.

    “If you are a celebrity and you are homosexual be so brazenly, but don’t let it over power you life. Also produce great work!!! Show others that your life isn’t only about who you choose to love, but I you DO love someone do so unabashedly.”

    Again, NO. A person’s sexual orientation and/or preference is none of anyone else’s business. Full stop. FURTHERMORE, if there is one celebrity who is NOT “brazen” it is Queen Latifah. And she shouldn’t have to be in order to have a personal life.

    I mean, I get that, as celebrities, there is some level of privacy that people give up for their fame. They have this weird responsibility to share certain parts of their lives with fans, because without fans they wouldn’t have jobs OR fame. But there are some things that deserve to be kept private at a person’s discretion. A celebrity does not OWE me details of their sex life. Furthermore, I couldn’t care less what kind of sex people have.

  • http://www.purplekeychain.blogspot.com purplekeychain

    YES!

  • Tweed12

    What bothers me more, are those who aren’t out of the closet. The ones who after you develop what you consider a friendship with them, become all touchy-feely. I’ve dealt with this situation many times and I’m fed up with these lesbians in the damn closet. Either you straight out tell others you are gay, or I’m forcing you out the closet. Claim who you are and be proud of it.

  • ruggie

    Syd the Kyd is putting gay/perceived gay actors into a box. Queen Latifah shouldn’t be forced to play a variation of Cleo from “Set it Off” in every movie.

  • Bisous

    No these women are very well respected and positive role models. I don’t think anyone’s opinion of them would change if they choose to come out, but it could make alot of people whose lives are overwrought with the thought of such persecution more compfortable with life changing decision it is to be open about who you choose to be with. Thats all I’m saying.

    @purplekeychain I also stated, “Yeah she didn’t choose her words the best, but I agree with alot of what she had to say…”
    I see it too often people want to ignore the issue or be entirely too passive when dealing with homosexuality. You’re right I don’t agree with her use of the word “bit*h”, but I do appreciate the head on manner she deals with this issue. Lest we forget that society at large is still very patriachal or first lady can has her anatomy commented on by a man she barely even knows Beyonce is questioned on the methods by which her own child was brought into the world and just last year the sexual exploits of a minor were spread across the internet for thousands ( MOSTLY adults) to weigh in on. I’m not so much bothered by a word as these things.
    Back to the issue at hand I admire Syd first and foremost as an entertainer and secondly because she is openly gay and persues it with the same matter of factness I don’t often see in many other entertainers.
    oh and in response to this: “Furthermore, I couldn’t care less what kind of sex people have.” Homosexuality does not refers only to the act of copulation. it’s a decision on who you spend your life with, marry, have children with, share ideals and create with. It’s as beautiful as any other union. I would appreciate it if you didn’t just reduce it to bedroom politics.
    I appreciate what both of you ladies had to say. Thank you for the discourse.

  • grace

    My question is, why is it that when artist or people like nicki minaj or amber rose out themselves, people do not take their statements seriously? Why must that safaree dude be nickis boyfriend in spite of what she has already said? People cant make up their mind.

    And just because alicia keys is tom boyish doesnt mean is a lesbian! How do you go from taking people out of one box to putting people in another!

  • Chrissy

    agree 100% Rj

  • Alexandra

    I wonder if people would question her sexuality had she not taken that role? It seems like that’s the main ‘evidence’ people use against Latifah.

  • Bisous

    @grace probably becuase they promote a lipstick lesbian or party girl lifestyle. It’s not anything you really take serious and feeds into the male fantasy. I personally don’t think it’s funny to flirt with something that so many women take serious and struggle with daily for album sales.

  • Achica89

    Well said RJ. Thank you. :)

  • OhMyEyes

    Exactly! Isn’t that like the #1 rule in the LGBT community…Do not out people.

  • angelface

    I know its been said…but I feel it need its own comment. Guys. Queen Latifah is out the closet lol. No need to question or out what’s already out. Geez lol.

  • grace

    I know this is taking it off topic, but those types of celebs always bothered me. How does no one notice that Lady Gaga’s persona is so contrived just to appeal to gay people. I like the fact that for Missy and Queen, when they rap or act, that is all you focus on.

  • angelface

    On another note…is it just me or does she look just like lloyd lol?

  • TheBestAnonEver, Part 2

    RJ: It is no one’s responsibility to help another person live their lives out of the closet. I doubt Latifah being openly gay would make a gay person in Saudia Arabia come out of the closet so if we are talking about Americans or other westerners, people need to find the courage within themselves to do what they need to do.

    Is there any scientific correlation between a celebrity coming out and acceptance of gay people? I doubt it and really wish people would stop pushing this stupid narrative.

  • Bisous

    @grace I think the thing is alot of people got so involved with the actual show that they forget about talent. I didn’t like Lady Gaga much when she started and I don’t like her much now. I’m glad she’s an advocate for many in the LGBTQ community, but I don’t find it entirely sincere most of the time. I just wish someone could have a normal career based on nothing, but their talent and choose to be an advocate or at least lead by example if they are gay.
    I hope that makes sense, but what you said was definitely not off topic to me.

  • ms_micia

    Uh oh are we outing people this evening??? I don’t think it’s a surprise to anyone because these ladies she mentioned never actually deny it they just don’t come out and say yes I’m gay and proud. There’s a much longer list of gays and bi’s in the music industry both MALE and female than will ever be known to the public. As long as it’s taboo and a scandal and they have the money and power to keep it secret it’ll be kept under wraps. However I was of the understanding that Queen came out like last year when she and Alicia keys (hmmm) were on vaca with her and her girl and she was very obviously affectionate towards her (i.e groping, touching, kissing). Bottom line is, don’t out powerful people if you wanna be successful in the industry. Period. Know much, tell nothing. That’s the way it goes.

  • Alexandra

    It’s not just you. I couldn’t put my name on the person, but there you go lol
    She does favor him…

  • ms_micia

    Ok after reading most comments I’d like to add something to mine. To assume that these people don’t have a responsibility to the people they make rich is absurd. Don’t want folks in your business don’t be an entertainer. There are plenty other jobs where you could stay quietly closeted and no one would care. The second issue is comparing African Americans in the closet to whites is no comparison. Although they are not completely accepting they are muuuuuch more accepting than the black community (hence the conundrum that is Tyler Perry). But let’s keep it all the way real here…as a Christian woman I see this as a black and white issue. But as a person with gay friends and associates I understand and have seen first hand the struggles that young people go through. Admiring the industry or looking to it for some truth is the last thing folks need to do. It’s their job to sell lies and fairytales. It’s what keeps them rich. Don’t doubt the power of media people. I’ve seen the push of homosexuality to mainstream in the last five to ten years and trust me it’s had it’s trickle down affect on today’s youth. If we go’n out entertainers, out the drug users, the pedophiles, the sexually perverse, the murderers and rapists. Cuz they’re all there. Charlie Sheen aint the only horrible mess. He’s just the only one who’s gotten penalized. These people are not role models, WAKE UP! Find some real people to admire and not the freakshow circus that is Hollyweird.

  • mina

    Um okay I don’t know where Syd has been but Queen is out! No she didn’t hold a gigantic press conference, that I know of, but I think she knows that everybody knows she is gay since the pics came out with her and her girlfriend. I mean does she really have to make an announcement about it? I guess she is guilty of just never commenting on it and if she was out in the public with her girl then I don’t think she is hiding it. I feel like the people who are in her circle and who are close to her probably know she is gay and isn’t that all that really matters? As for Alicia, never thought she was gay, nor do I think she is. Missy, well I guess until there are photos of her and a boo, then it’s her business and how do we know she isn’t living a gay life already and we the public, who don’t see her just don’t know about it..never know.

  • Bisous

    @ms_micia You’re right I think before I was giving to much importance to someone whose job it is to entertain. I don’t expect everyone to share the personal dynamics of their reletaionships, but I admire Sydney for having the courage to do so proudly. I’m glad you didn’t just dismiss her as a girl just trying to draw attention to herself like alot of the commenters on here did. I just hope people won’t treat beign gay as something to be ashamed of because it isn’t and most of the famous gay couples I’ve seen in recent years have been very commited and functional compared to others… I support anyone who is trying to find love in life.

  • Alex

    “Don’t worry about who I’m sticking and licking, [you] just mad it ain’t your’s. “- Missy Elliot. lol

  • EbonyLolita

    Ummmm why should ANYBODY have to make an announcement about their sexuality!! When you see them out & about that should be enough. Common sense rules & we’ve NEVER seen Queen La w/a man in any romantic way. Add Missy to the list. Never heard them talking in interviews about dating men either. If Alicia Keys wanna switch hit that’s HER business.

    I’m straight but I truly believe when gays/lesbians just live their lives w/o feeling the need to OUT anybody folks will not act all shocked & appalled. Just do you?! The only ppl who need to know are the ppl that are in your immediate circle & obviously if you come home w/the same sex, have relationships w/the same sex they’ll get the damn point!! *Kissteeth*

  • binks

    Mmmm looks like someone is trying to get her name out there. At the end of the day it is none of your business to tell someone what to do regarding their sexuality especially in regards yo celebrities. I never understood how them coming out is helping you overall, yes it is inspiring but the hick stops there

  • AustralianGirl

    lol. Aaah, she’s admitted she’s ‘licking’ someone…

  • mamareese

    She does look like Lloyd and even as a man….she aint cute. Unless you’ve been in the bed with all these folks you are calling out….who are you to “out” them. Folks like this get on my nerves….how bout you worry about who you messing with and buy some looks….you look crackheadish chile! I do think Odd Future is talented but it’s clear they are a bunch of obnoxious, immature kids with money. Everyone one of them that is hot right not has said something totally stupid. Instead of buying all the awful clothes they wear (except Frankie O) they need to invest in a good PR person. If they did this interview would have never gone down. Now Syd….you need to sit down before you burn a bridge with some of the hottest artist out right now. You going in on folks that got it in when you were in diapers….somebody smack this child.

  • LurkerG

    +1

  • Mr Jay

    This is how she and that nitwit Tyler get attention because their music sucks. Dance puppets dance.

  • Trini

    @mina

    “I don’t know where Syd has been but Queen is out!”

    Thank you!

    Love it when people try and shout somebody out and dont even know what the hell theyre talking about! Classic!!!

  • Trini

    Jada??!

    You really think so?? Never saw that in her. But then again you never know…NOTHING in Hollywood surprises me anymore.

  • http://thedaughterofafrika.blogspot.com/ African Mami

    Let me guess, this person has an album coming out?!

  • Trini

    @OhMyEyes

    “Isn’t that like the #1 rule in the LGBT community…Do not out people.”

    I thought so too. Guess were both wrong. LOL!

  • Angie

    Me too, Carrie. I like it better when I know very little about an entertainer’s personal life. I just want to focus on their craft. What they do when they aren’t on the clock…well, I’d rather not know.

  • Trini

    @TheBestAnonEver,Part2

    “Is there any scientific correlation between a celebrity coming out and acceptance of gay people? I doubt it and really wish people would stop pushing this stupid narrative.”

    EXACTLY!!!

    You coming out to the world makes little difference in anyone elses life but your own at the end of the day. And for celebs, theres usually a few loud gasps and clutched pearls here and there but after a few short weeks some other celeb will get caught on camera doing something insane and the hype is over! So who cares. *SHRUG*

  • Trini

    @TBAE,Part2

    “Is there any scientific correlation between a celebrity coming out and acceptance of gay people? I doubt it and really wish people would stop pushing this stupid narrative.”

    EXACTLY!!!

    Coming out to the world make little difference in a LGBT persons life except their OWN! For celebs theres usually a few loud gasps, maybe even some clutched pearls here and there but then after a few short weeks some other celeb will be caught on camera doing some insane ish and all the hype is OVER! So who cares!!!

  • Trini

    Ok. This is my 3rd attempt at posting this…

    @TBAE,Part2

    “Is there any scientific correlation between a celebrity coming out and acceptance of gay people? I doubt it and really wish people would stop pushing this stupid narrative.”

    EXACTLY!!!

    Coming out to the world make little difference in a LGBT persons life except their OWN! For celebs theres usually a few loud gasps, maybe even some clutched pearls here and there but then after a few short weeks some other celeb will be caught on camera doing some insane ish and all the hype is OVER! So who cares!!!

  • Blasé

    *rolling eyes* dude, it ain’t your job to yank people out of their closets if they choose to be there – it doesn’t help your cause. unless, you only doing it to get notice – look, we all noticed you.

    now who is she again? moving on…

  • Trini

    HELLO!!! LOL!

  • iQgraphics

    @BestAnon

    Um, like, really!
    +1

  • http://www.purplekeychain.blogspot.com purplekeychain

    Step back. My comment wasn’t to trivialize someone’s sexual preference or orientation, or to sum up an entire relationship as a sexual act. You are, in fact, making my point for me — being in a long-term relationship is OFTEN, but not always, more than just sex, and the only thing people seem to consider, in terms of anti-gay couples, is that they have SEX. Two women friends can share the same type of life together and bond that you mention, but once you add SEX and physical intimacy into the mix, people start to have a problem. If Latifah and Jeanette were just FRIENDS like Oprah and Gayle, no one would say boo, but once you add SEX into the relationship, all bets are off. If you want to play with semantics, we can do that.

    No one has a right to “out” anyone, and no one is under any form of obligation to share their sexual preference or orientation with anyone. This “DJ” or “rapper” or whatever she is, has no valid basis upon which to assume that either Alicia or Missy are lesbians, and her words are harmful and ignorant because she’s made an ASSUMPTION about these women’s SEX LIVES based on the male lens – ie. because they don’t dress provocatively or are not actively trying to entice men with their bodies and lady bits, then they must be gay. GIVE ME A BREAK. I could have Carson Kressley’s high-powered “gaydar” but unless and UNTIL someone has come out and said or inferred “I IDENTIFY AS GAY” then I would have absolutely NO RIGHT or cause to call that person GAY.

    The point is, you don’t get to pick people’s sexual preference or orientation FOR THEM. People don’t get to look at me and say “purplekeychain is wearing an afro, ergo she must hate white people” – they don’t get to determine MY identity just because I am doing, saying or BEING something OTHER than what mainstream women are doing, saying and being. That is LUDICROUS. Your rapping/djing icon needs to shut her nasty, BS filled mouth about people’s identities until she gets her facts straight. Just because she chose to be the kind of gay woman that she is does not mean that other women with her characteristics are ALSO gay. /eyroll

    Celebrities do not OWE it to anyone to tell people what kind of SEX they have. They do not have a “responsibility” to be openly gay. This world isn’t a utopia. Yes, it would be great if all gay people would just come out and tell everybody about the kind of SEX they like so young people wouldn’t have to feel so alone for being different than their peers. But it is not an obligation, nor is it a requirement.

    “…she is openly gay and persues it with the same matter of factness I don’t often see in many other entertainers.”

    Um… once again, I don’t see a lot of other gay entertainers calling other gay entertainers b=tch=s, or suggesting that people’s marriages aren’t REAL because they are (possibly) non-traditional. If I was a gay woman, and decided to have a child with a man I respected and admired and we chose to get married out of mutual love, respect and honesty, you think SYD would have a right to say my “sh=t ain’t real”??? WtH?

    Sorry, everything you’ve said makes me feel dirty.

  • http://www.purplekeychain.blogspot.com purplekeychain

    “To assume that these people don’t have a responsibility to the people they make rich is absurd.”

    True. But there is a line that gets drawn, and that line falls somewhere right before “personal relationships”.

  • Isis

    Why does she care how they live their lives?? Does she wanna get with them?

  • Perverted Alchemist

    They live off the controversy and the hype, but when you hear the music it leaves a lot to be desired. Sadly, the only thing that Odd Future has going for them is their singer Frank Ocean.

  • iQgraphics

    it’s a case of the new booty
    Syd probably wasn’t born when the Queen came out.

  • iQgraphics

    @purp
    agreed

  • aussie

    To add, Queen Latifa’s action scream, IM GAY but in interviews she make a point to give the impersion thats she not…… I read in Essence and she was saying, “I would love to meet a man, have a relationship and have a child. I dont know why people think I dont want that. I do, I really do.” So Syd is somewhat right but Queen been throwing us little hints since Set it Off.

  • fuchsia

    +1

  • AI

    I abhor people (gay or not) that think they have the right to force others out the closet.

  • karin

    I don’t really want to post this as a comment, but couldn’t find another way to send this. Are Odd Future’s lyrics “overly” misogynistic and violent or “overtly”? Also, should read “Syd is one of THE forces holding the loose collective together.”

  • http://thedaughterofafrika.blogspot.com/ African Mami

    @ aussie,

    Queen Latifah does not owe us an explanation in pertinence to her preferred sex partner! Urrrgh. Let her just be!

  • CRAZYT.KEYS

    Yo “SYDTHE ->KID MRS.ALICIA KEYS<- NAME OUT YO MUTHA F**K'N MOUTH….BECAUSE SHE AINT NO DAMN LESBIAN LYKE YO DYK'N AZS!!!

  • modern lady

    It’s strange how some gay people try to call others out, literally, when they don’t think they’re being honest about their sexuality.

    I mean, no one should be forced to disclose ANYTHING about themselves they want kept private. That’s ridiculous. If someone isn’t ready to admit something to themselves, wth makes her think they’re comfortable telling the world?

    If you’re gay, that’s cool-stop trying to force others into the Rainbow Coalition.

  • modern lady

    They have a responsibility to perform the show or deliver the album their fans ask for and bounce. We, the public, don’t have a right to ask for blood, sweat and tears. If you’re a balanced person, you have enough business of your own without trying to get all up in someone else’s.

  • AUSSIE

    @african mami, I’ve seen you post before #sigh. I was just adding to the thread and nothing more. Never mentioned or suggested she should explained herself. One part I left out bc I thought too long is, “Straight people dont have to explain their oreintation and no one else should either.” Good day love.

  • BlacknAmazed

    Not that I’m taking up for this Syd person….Maybe the black lesbian community wish they had a person like a Missy or Queen(with their level of success) that was just open and a voice for them….I think that’s her point. She’s not saying anything that people haven’t said for years.. anyway. I know Wanda Syke ….she’s so…anyway I won’t get started…lol

    I would be very rich (like Ne Ne) :)….if I could get five thousand for everytime I heard someone tell me a story about some of these women (in the industry) that are Bi or Gay. And it’s 2012…no one cares! I wonder if Black women think there is a double standard….Lindsey Lohan is open…and I’m sure that’s not gonna stop any man from wanting to date her or fantasize about her.

  • Suburban Soulgirl

    I don’t think gay celebs have an obligation to come out and unless they’re doing some hypocritical isht (ie- preaching about the evils of homosexuality, etc), it’s wrong to out them.

  • Suburban Soulgirl

    Not to mention, Alicia is a bit of a homophobe. Even if she was gay or bi, would LGBTQ+ peeps want her on their team?

  • Suburban Soulgirl

    Nicki Minaj admitted to lying about being bi to promote her career. She fessed up in the Dec 2010 issue of Rolling Stone.

    And Amber Rose well…She’s kind of hard to be taken seriously period, but unlike Nicki M., she has never lied about her orientation.

  • iQgraphics

    @aussie
    Syd is wrong
    *dead wrong*
    whether one drops subtle hints or not, it is no ones place to go beyond speculation, jump to accusation, and then imply cowardliness.
    Syd should bow down to the Queen and others and say Thank You for blazing a path so that women like me can be taken seriously in this male dominated industry.

  • modern lady

    @ BlacknAmazed:

    Really, if you’re a secure person, you shouldn’t need other people to validate your existence. And what if these women don’t identify THEMSELVES as being gay or are bi-sexual? Should they lie and say they are? Only they know who they truly are and what they want to reveal to the public.

  • http://blackonpurpose.blogspot.com/ gryph

    LOL

  • itsme

    +1

  • Bunni

    Seriously, who really gives a diggity-DAMN which team Queen Latifah, et. al. plays for. Can’t stand when these angry lesbians try to force people out of the closet. And why are there so many people debating the issues by way of posting comments? While small-minded people are discussing this frivolity, the above-mentioned “closet cases” are laughing their asses off all the way to the bank.

  • mainlymee

    A lot of you keep saying “who cares if they are gay or not?” The problem is, lots of people do! Especially young teens who are having trouble dealing with being gay or lesbian and coming out. Haven’t any of you seen the “It Gets Better” videos? If a famous black celebrity came out and told young teens that they were gay, it would give those teens some hope. I work with teens all over the US who are dealing with depression and it always comes back to feeling alone and different. I’m not saying celebrities have an obligation to share their personal lives, but even sharing a small piece of it, can help someone else.

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  • Ayo

    Sydney doesn’t like being call lesbian, and since when was Sydney a fxcking rapper

  • Lion Queen

    Agree.. Enough said!!

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  • jalin

    I think she is true…..

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