I received an extremely interesting email this morning pertaining to the train-wreck that is Rush Limbaugh:

Hi,

Rush Limbaugh’s radio show is a part of the Clear Channel lineup. Let’s send a message to them that no longer can they allow Rush Limbaugh the opportunity to spew hateful and sometimes derogatory comments. Sign the petition and help get this done.

That’s why I signed a petition to Communications / Media Relations: and Communications/Media Relations, which says:

“Sandra Fluke, a law student at Georgetown University who was advocating for health insurance plans to cover the cost of contraception, became the target of a series of attacks by Limbaugh. Besides calling her a “slut,” he also called her a “prostitute,” said that he wanted her to make sex tapes and post them online, and speculated that she only had a problem paying for contraception because she was having “so much sex.”

We who support Ms. Fluke, find that this is a serious offense enacted by Mr. Limbaugh and we ask that his radio show be terminated.”

Will you sign this petition? Click here:

Thanks!

Now, I wholeheartedly agree. Limbaugh is a waste of air space and an embodiment of the hateful rhetoric and dangerous unsubstantiated “facts” that divide the United States and vilify sub-sets of the population.

There is just one small problem here though:

Where is all of this outrage when Limbaugh relentlessly attacks Black America? Yes, Black America, as a monolith. When he throws out generic, racist stereotypes to define all Black people, who protested?  More importantly, how many advertisers jumped ship?

Not one.

Where was the outrage when he called first lady Michelle Obamauppity” and supported her being booed at a Nascar event? Where was the boycott when he suggested that she was overweight, unattractive and hypocritical for advocating for healthy living when “she obviously doesn’t follow her own dietary advice.”

Why weren’t sponsors and listeners and Republicans angry when he referred to the 44th President of the United States of America  as a “bi-racial oreo?” Where were the emails and petitions when he depicted him as a burglar breaking into the home of a wealthy white man?

Advertisers had no problem selling beds and flowers between monologues by recurring character, Bo Snerdley, who touts that he is certified to speak on Black issues because he has a “heavy dose of pure, unadulterated organic slave blood” before proceeding to speak with perfect diction then shifting to “ebonics” so the “hood” can understand him?

What about when Limbaugh told a Black woman caller to “take the bone out her nose and call him back?”

Or how about when he said that the NFL looked like a shoot-out between the Bloods and the Crips without guns?

Or when he said that Black people are only “12 percent of the population, [so] who the hell cares?”

The list goes on and on, but the recurring theme is that jokes and insults about Black Americans are perfectly acceptable, but when you start calling people “sluts” we have a problem.

Something is seriously wrong with that picture.

And no, it’s not the fact that a white savior more cliché than anything that could have been conceptualized in “Cadillac Records” or “The Help” didn’t swoop in and save Black America from big, bad Rush. The dual issues staring us in the face are immense and telling of the psychological damage we’ve experienced in this country:

1.)   We have allowed ourselves to become so apathetic and marginalized that no one takes us seriously in leading roles outside of villains, crackheads, gang-bangers and baby mamas. We’re always called in for the assist like the good ole’ Black supporting casts of yore.

2.)   We’re so used to being beaten and whipped from the plantation to the polls to the airwaves, that we just take the blows and keep going – because they bounce off the scars.

Statistics are thrown our way on affirmative action, on Black-on-Black crime, on Black children born out of wedlock, on incarceration, healthcare and education disparities, yet, when it gets down to the get down, there are no rallies planned on our behalf – unless it surrounds a government sanctioned murder (Troy Davis) in one the most backwards, racist states in the Union.

  • http://cupofjo-jo.blogspot.com bk chick

    “We need to stop piggybacking on everyone else’s grievances as a way of getting restitution for our own, because it’s not coming.”

    That was one of the realest statements ever made…I wholeheartedly agree. We are so complacent most of the time it’s like we allow ourselves to repeatedly get disrespected..

    I feel this way about where I live..the gentrification of my neighborhood leaves me outraged at the current tenets who don’t stand up and fight for their property, or what’s worse, the fact that all the benefits of gentrification, i.e. new stores, safer streets, are synonymous with white folks and their economic power…How can we sit idly by and accept our neighborhoods with poor infrastructure, drugs, violent crime, vandalism, and just be cool with it? It frustrates the hell out of me…

  • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

    I am NOT going to sign that petition. Why does it have to take a certain color to affect change?!NOPE! I am all the way with you Ms.Savali!!!!

  • http://ananseproductions.tumblr.com trin-trin

    Amen!!n

  • Tonton Michel

    I understand what the author is saying but the problem is that there is a significant amount of black people who are not invested in the community or do not see these assaults by people like Rush as an attack on them. There the ones quick to point out that “there are more important issues” or they just do not see it as a race issues, (they could be called n****a to their face and they would say “well black people say it too”), there is an air of complacency that is suffocating. Some of it can be blamed on a younger generation that has become unaware or insensitive to racial slights ironically as a result of the work preceding generation of blacks. Some of it can be blamed on immigrant blacks who have a different perspective on race that is not in tuned with racial sensitivities in America. Bottom line is not everyone is on the same page in the big book of race history in the United States and it has put a shadow on the united front stance. If other groups perceive us as disorganized and uninterested in our own well being why would they care about issues that effect us?

  • Toppin

    I am not sure if I would label his comments attacks on Black America. While I agree the man has majors issues with women and minorities he can honestly say anything he wants about public figures like Barack Obama. However he does need to leave Obama’s family alone. They should not be attacked because he disagrees with Obama’s Politics.

    I personally have never found myself offended by the ish this man sprews because I am not invested in the opinions of others. I do not care what some racist white man thinks of me. I have one life to live and I do not have time to worry about the opinion of strangers.

    Very rarely do I get upset by others voicing an opinon…whether it is about someone black or not. My kneejerk reaction is not to jump up screaming and shouting because someone said something bad about someone black. While the world at large might see black people as monolithic I do not.

    As for the georgetown student….she is white and she is female. Even if the masses did not come to her aid the feminist would and they hold alot of power in our country. That is the difference between them and us. Power does not just come from large numbers….It comes from shared ideology. Again that is the difference between them and us. With us too many want stay victims while others like myself hate feeling sorry for oursleves and move away from that failed ideology.

  • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com Perverted Alchemist

    “We have to be careful. We have to be careful that we don’t keep bending our knees and using our strength to uplift others without expecting any reciprocity. We have to be careful that we don’t assimilate to the point where everyone else’s problems become our own, but when the issues are Black-specific, we find ourselves standing alone.”

    I think Black folks are just a tad bit late on this line of thinking…

    “We need to stop piggybacking on everyone else’s grievances as a way of getting restitution for our own, because it’s not coming.

    More importantly, we have to stop asking who’s going to fight for us, if we’re not willing to fight for ourselves.”

    …And this is precisely the reason why I take issue with certain people trying to compare their struggles to the Civil Rights Movement. They are all gung ho in making their voices be heard, but when it comes to supporting actual issues that Black people face, ironically those same characters are nowhere to be found!

  • jamesfrmphilly

    hurt rush by any means…….

  • Toppin

    Let me change something about my opinion…

    I do feel compelled to speak out against this nonsense when the target is black women, but otherwise I am not moved to any action. And I think this is largely due to the realization that the race does not have black women’s backs so I do not feel compelled to defend the race. I do not feel compelled to defend a group of people who for the most part are noticeably silent when the target is black women.

    When black women are singled out I am ready to fight. When black men are singled out I am indifferent. When black people in general are singled out I am indifferent.

    Hope that makes sense.

  • Guest

    It makes a lot of sense and I agree with you, Toppin!

  • Natalie

    White women tears man…. white women tears. We don’t matter because we’re still not seen as people.

  • Wemovetheworld

    I’ve seen petitions to pull Rush off the air before. One was on behalf of active military in Iraq that didn’t want him piped in on their local radio spewing slander about servicemen and women.

    It’s not a race issue. Rush finally stepped in it big time because he attacked a SPECIFIC person (and private citizen) with wild and completely false accusations and that person was already in the public eye. Because of this, it’s very easy to see in this case that its not just his prejudiced opinion, but complete fabrications and lies. So the public (and a lot of the 51% of women in this country and the world) took offense.

    He’s a disgrace. But instead of asking why people are finally pissed enough about him attacking a white, female private citizen to call for his removal from the public airwaves, perhaps you should have started a petition against all the horrible things he says about black people and put it in your article. Maybe people would have signed it. In fact, it’s not too late and now would be the perfect time.

    I hope between lack of sponsorship and public outcry, he’s actually removed from the airwaves soon.

  • http://www.artculturemusiclove.com Nicole Seck

    Agreed. Kirsten, you did it again! Overall, there seems to be an air of apathy as it relates to civic participation with respect to issues pertaining to racialized bodies.

  • MsQuita

    All I can say is AMEN.

  • Socially Maladjusted

    Say what you like but racism does have its upside. It kinda reminds us that no matter how post racial we’re told society has become, it still hasn’t become post-RACIST.

    LOL!

    I was getting worried that we’d do like the Jews and sleep walk our way into the gas chambers.

    Well, we’re still going

    but thanks to racism at least we’ll know what hit us and the reason why -

    because we were too busy NOT being a monolith (how I hate that idiotic phrase) even though the experience imposed on us is monolithically oppressive and racist.

    side note:

    [I'm always suspicious of nigros who invoke the 'not all blacks are like that' clause, (which is what they mean by 'we are not a monolith') are you saying that some blacks deserve to be abused because they are 'like that' ?]

    I think the indifference (among non-blacks) to racist attrocities against black america is the result of black america’s indifference to progressive ideals, shown most starkly in its (black america’s) fanatical worship of Barack Obama and the Corporation.

    People wanted – CHANGE, they got Barack Obama who has been every bit a force for no good as every other american president. And all black america can do is sychophant over the first “bl?ck” president of white people.

    pathetic

    black america will find itself increasingly isolated and unable to recruit the support of progressive/revolutionary forces in the international community if you continue to support the likes of Barack Obama.

  • edub

    “black america will find itself increasingly isolated and unable to recruit the support of progressive/revolutionary forces in the international community if you continue to support the likes of Barack Obama.”

    Bingo. We have shown our asses when it comes to President Obama. Not only have we squandered what little political capital we had, we have prostituted ourselves for mere pennies on dollar. What a shame.

    But bingo to your whole post.

  • Socially Maladjusted

    . . .and by way of reminder, you don’t need anyone’s permission or approval or support to combat racism, – ya just do it.

    What you waiting for –

    how to instructions?

    or

    a go ahead instruction?

    Someone commits racist act A and you respond by putting your foot in their arse.

    simple

  • jamesfrmphilly

    um, have you seen the other guys?

  • edub

    Right. But that’s not good enough, anymore. Our apathy towards the political system beyond “democrat” has failed us. I would never shop at a store where the unspoken motto was..”well, have you seen the other store?”.

    Our demands create the supply. Our actions have shown that we are more than willing to accept sub par produce.

  • Socially Maladjusted

    I’m assuming you mean the other (republican) presidential candidates? Well I thought I covered that when I stated that all american presidents have been a force for no good, which means future american presidents will almost certainly follow in their no good footsteps.

    There are other alternatives to the two party electoral system. If not that then there are other alternatives for blacks . . .

    But we could start by contributing our own critique of the failures of this system, instead of crying about being left out by others who are already having that dialogue or hoping for others to carry us.

  • Fox

    This is no surprise. The nation gets in an uproar when a white woman is disrespected. I’ve seen the same shit on a smaller scale at my job more than once. America loves white women.

    With that being said, why do blacks expect anything from corporate america, media, or the government at all? They let us know daily what little they think of us. I don’t know why it’s taking so long for more blacks to get their shit together so we don’t have to be concerned with or depend on them.

  • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

    Rush’s listeners and the Republicans agree with him when he attacks Black people. But when he attacks a young White woman even his followers and the Republicans have turned on him. That’s why the sponsors pulled out.

    No one gives a sh*t about us and how we feel. We all should know that by now.

  • http://eclecticspectrum.wordpress.com Afia

    I got into a HUGE twitter argument with a white feminist about this. Sandra Fluke is privileged in our society. She is white, well educated, and attractive. Contraception is a hot-button topic for some reason this election cycle. She was the perfect victim.

    Do we have to wait for someone like Sandra Fluke to pop up before someone like Rush is hit where it hurts? Rush attacks everybody and his sponsors didn’t care. Now they do? Let’s pay attention and not jump up and down because he’s being hit now instead of years ago.

    This incident shows that only some people in our society are worthy of protection. Sponsors will back out if you attack some people but not others.

  • courtney

    Umm…why should anyone be outraged when he called Michelle Obama uppity? That has nothing to do with her race.

  • Simone L

    I put this as a facebook status but it seems as though many people have more important things to worry about. I even posted this on Krystal Ball’s page. I’ll probably get a few “why does it have to be all about race?” responses.

  • apple

    Because nobody cares about black people, everyone loves a white woman (this is sarcasm rooted in truth)

  • http://eclecticspectrum.wordpress.com Afia

    Yes it does. Uppity is a term used for those black people who don’t know “their proper place” in American society.

  • Yoshia

    i totally agree…. good statment.
    Quick Question?? is this the video –> http://goo.gl/3EAi1 EVERYBODY been talking about ..TOO FUNNY

  • Rastaman

    Rush Limbaugh for all his bombast is but a symptom of the bigotry and racism that permeates this nation. Garnering valuable energy and resources in an attempt to silence him would be wasteful as he vocalizes the thoughts and feelings of a significant portion of white America whether we wish to acknowledge it or not. I for one would rather have them saying all that ish on the public airwaves so I can keep a tap on how they are thinking rather than attempt to shut him down so they can fester in secret. You push them in the dark and their thinking becomes more nefarious. You allow the likes of Limbaugh and they feel like their voice is being heard. Sunlight is always antiseptic.
    Apathy is as American as apple pie!
    The powers that be in this society foster apathy to a large degree as it allows them to operate somewhat unrestrained by much public outrage. So much of the outrage in this country is more manufactured than self engendered. Black Americans are no more or no less motivated than any other group; they have the same level of ignorance, fear, mistrust and distraction as anyone else. The levels are high yes but I don’t know how that can be changed. They are being fed the same pop culture propaganda that devalues intellect and critical thinking and holds the accumulation of money as the paragon of success. This idea that we retain some moral superiority to the mass of white America due to a history of being victimized no longer really holds true. So many of us have de-evolved socially to a place where we are as much a threat to one another as any white supremacist.
    African Americans may be the only people who see themselves as divorced from America. To the rest of the world you are America with all that ails it and makes it great. The traditional Civil Rights coalition has being splintered as middle class and other upwardly mobile black folks are seeing less and less commonality with the poor. Whether through education or enterprise many or moving away from segregated enclaves and in the immortal words of George Jefferson, “Moving on up…” It will be difficult to continue to maintain a coalition only built on race when so many other aspects of their lives will be so different.

  • Afrostyling

    All this! When people got into an uproar about a white woman being called a slut by rush, i really didn’t care because he has said worse about African Americans in this country. Don’t stand with them. Start realizing your own economic power or you will continue to be trampled on in this country. I bet you if it was a black woman, none of these companies would be withdrawing their ads. No thanks!

  • chutney

    *sigh* There is so much and so little to say all at the same time. However, Rush is calling out women – no matter our ethnicity. This we must remember. When Rush degrades the Black community and WE, as the community, say nothing then we cannot be upset when those who identify with Ms. Fluke stand strong on her behalf. Until we stand strong and realize that we really have to believe in equal treatment for one and all, then we will occupy the seats at the back of the bus, eternally.

  • Alexandra

    Under pressure some sponsors will back down, you;ve got to put lots of pressure on them though. Overall I agree with you. The victim here is White and female. That’s a no-no when it comes to disrespect.
    As Val mentioned, when it comes to attacking a White woman, they can put aside political differences and come to her aid.

    Can’t excuse Barack Obama’s phone call either, I know he’s playing politics but it will only backfire. How about standing for everyone?

  • TheBestAnonEver, Part 2

    Agreed and well stated. My thoughts and concerns exactly.

  • TheBestAnonEver, Part 2

    Toppin:

    With regard to your second comment, I used to defend black men like my life depended on it, but in the last few years, I noticed I stopped. I have become increasingly indifferent to them as a group. Ninety-five percent of the men I love most in this world are black, but as a group, I cannot be bothered. I guess after years of falling on your sword for a group and the message from said group is ‘I will disrespect and despise you’, one needs to move on.

    In a strange way, it saddens me to read this is a feeling shared by others.

  • TheBestAnonEver, Part 2

    Attractive is subjective, but I agree with your overall point. Forget about getting any feminist to empathize with your position. As far as they are concerned, our role is to prop them up and provide numbers when needed while they ignore us.

  • LaLA

    Okay, some of us have shorter memories. There was a tremendous amount of outrage when Don Imus (the left’s version of Rush Limbaugh) called the Rutgers’ basketball team ‘nappy headed hos’. It wasn’t just black people who demanded his firing.

    I am not saying that black women get the same level of respect and protection that white women do. We clearly don’t.

    The problem is that the black ‘community’ does not politically rally around anything except the needs of black male criminals e.g. “prison industrial complex’. Blacks weren’t even on the Barack train until a ton of white people started voting for him in the primaries…

    This generation is politcally immature and extremely narcissistic, with a frighting amount of not apathy — but ANTIPATHY toward black women, and apathy toward upstanding black men and children.

  • Madame Arnoux

    Imus? A mouthpiece for the left? I mean, your whole statement is pretty whack, but calling Imus the left’s Limbaugh is hilarious.

  • Madame Arnoux

    So, the Jews slept walk their way to the gas chambers? Nice to know the antisemites among us.

  • kissa

    Tonton I have to agree with you..I believe people are so used to it(racism) that they no longer care..They don’t see the need to speak up for they don’t believe a change will come of it..Unfortunately time and time again history has shown to repeat itself..As we knock down one wall another is built back up more complex than the other..

  • kissa

    Cosign –
    Dogs have more rights than us..

  • nepanthe

    yes…ita

  • Miss September

    I couldn’t agree more. We get excited about the wrong issues. That’s not to take away from the issue, but the fact remains. They are are standing in our corner when the chips fall. It’s a sad state of America , that you can basically disrespect the president , his family and black people in general and still not get pulled off the air .I mean it finally took him calling a woman a slut in order for people to get up in arms .

    No other shock jock, has this much influence SMH. The fact that he’s trying to apologize is pathetic to me. So the statements that you made about the president or black people didn’t warrant an apology. I mean why is he not held accountable?

    I mean seriously, why is he untouchable. You would think that he would have bodyguards and high security with some of the things that he has said. I guess his sponsors don’t care unless it could be their daughter .Racism is alive and well …SMH

  • ehevans

    The writer refers to a St. Louis Post Dispatch report in 2009. She overlooked that, during that year, outrage over Limbaugh’s comments lost him his coveted chance to bid on the St. Louis Rams.
    Sharpton Urges Opposition to Limbaugh (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/sports/football/13limbaugh.html)
    Smith sends e-mail detailing opposition (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4551010)
    Rush Limbaugh has thrived on public indignation. His audience isn’t all ‘ditto-heads.’ He’s an entertainer and listeners tune in to hear his rants. Giving him ‘the cold-shoulder’ deprived him of a ‘payoff’ and, from what I hear, his audience has been shrinking.

    I’m willing to bet that, if this happened last year, Rush would have gotten away with his actions. Republicans have been pulling some stunts that stretch the imagination. Voters didn’t elect them to bust unions & legislation about ‘lady parts.’ Add increasing public awareness of attempts to undermine & insult the President and the atmosphere gets volatile. It hadn’t settled down from the Komen move against Planned Parenthood before Catholic Bishops erupted to over-ride medical science. Limbaugh’s 3 day, 9 hour diatribe was the ‘last straw.’

  • http://changecomesslow.com/2012/03/08/im-a-slut-too-the-word-no-part-12/ Nikesha

    than disconnect here dates back to D.W. griffith’s birth of a nation where white women’s purity comes before everything including a black man hanging from a tree or an entire race for that matter.

    Limbaugh is allowed to be racist on air just as Pat Buchanan was allowed to be racist on MSNBC air. The same goes for Dr. Laura Schlessinger Don Imus and Ann Coulter. All of these conservative pundits are allowed to run over Black people until they take it one step to far, whether it’s saying nigger, nappy headed ho, or calling one of their own a slut their is a limit to how much offense people will take.

    Rush has found his. Is it a double discriminatory standard? yes but at least finally he’s receiving some major backlash for taking his 1st amendment rights so far.

    the other thing i think is at play is that everyone knows rush is racist so most Black folks don’t pay him any attention. unfortunately it is a complacency is what it is situation.

  • Socially Maladjusted

    Mossad in the house.

    Yeh – that’s what I said, Jew slept walked their way into the gas chambers. They went just rounded up one day, at gun point.

    First it was ID cards, then it was relocation to the ghettos, then was a train ride to the concentration camps, then it was a short walk to the gas chamber.

    WHAT?

    They could have resisted at the ID card phase, and other moment up to the gas chamber but they just went along to get along.

    Unless you’re saying that the jewish holocaust is grossly exaggerated or that six million jews didn’t meekly walk to their deaths -

    in which case explain how you kill 6 million people who are resisting without large scale conflict?

    kiss teet

    anti-semite yo own self.

  • Socially Maladjusted

    correction

    they weren’t all just round up one day, at gun point.

  • Chima

    I don’t think that the racist opinions expressed by Limbaugh regularly are any different from the degradation we listen to in rap music. There aren’t any rallies or petitions because our very radio stations play similar verbal abuse regularly. Black males that we adore will both boast about the “hoes” and in another verse talk about loving a significant other. Limbaugh is like any other verbal abuser, no better or worse merely white skin on the abuse opposed to the usual defamation in a black skin.

    Don’t get me wrong i love my skin and my people but i realize the “comfort” we find in being inactive. It’s much easier to join a bandwagon than to create your own.

  • ehevans

    Chima, rappers’ lyrics are inexcusable but generic. Public figures know that being targeted goes with the territory. Sandra Fluke is a private citizen & Rush’s statements are a new form of terrorism. IOW, any of us who informs Congressional committee about the health consequences of a policy has to endure 9 hours of degrading tirades to millions of listeners.

    No wonder there’s so much sexual violence against military women & that they’re harshly penalized for defending themselves. Look at the culture of misogyny & demeaning of women Rush Limbaugh promotes. I’m asking my senator to vote with Sen. Levin & get him off Armed Forces Radio.

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  • Tiffany B

    Who gives a rats butt-crack about Rush??? He already has a foot and a half in the grave. But yes, it’s true that petitions don’t go around when he makes those comments about black people. I don’t listen to him, so more than likely it’s because black people choose to disassociate themselves from his show, and thus are less likely to care if he’s on the air and what he’s saying on the air. I definitely don’t expect white people to fight “our” battles.

  • KARMELLK

    Truthfully, I believe everything he says is horrendous and outrageous and he should have long since been cancelled, and because of this I don’t listen to his show. As a result, I often don’t know what is/was said until it is reported on. This issue got reported on to the hilt. Maybe the question that needs to be asked is why THIS particular issue got so much airplay? Attention is what rallies and forces advertisers to pull out. If his other statements had gotten as much attention and WE pulled together we wouldn’t be ignored. We are complicit in this by not doing our own research and continuing to do business with those very same sponsors who did not pull their ads when he was attacking us.

  • Madame Arnoux

    Well, I see you know how to use wikipedia since you managed to find out they weren’t rounded up in one day. Your ignorance of history, nevertheless, is astounding.

    It’s people like you, people who think they have the answers when they don’t really understand the question, are what scare me most about this country.

  • Socially Maladjusted

    is wiki you where you “fact checked” the facts I dropped on your head?

    LOL!

    Sweetie – as amusing for me and embarrassing for you, as this is – you don’t seem to have a point.

    First, I was an anti-semite for stating the fact (which you’ve been forced to conceded</i)) that the jews DID sleep walk their way to the gas chambers

    now I'm a student of wikipedia who doesn't understand -“the question”

    wtf??

    LMAO!

    You’re too ADHD for me to handle sweetie.

    Go overdose on some Ritalin.

    :-)

  • Madame Arnoux

    I don’t know why I’m even engaging you. What “facts” did you “drop on my head”? What does that even mean? Sorry, I don’t speak idiot.

    If you don’t know what the Jewish experience in Germany was like, I’d hesitate to comment on it. I don’t have the time nor the inclination to describe to you what life was really like. Try reading Between Dignity and Despair by Marion Kaplan, for a start. There aren’t any pictures, so it’s likely above level for you. Still, it’s written simply enough that you’ll grasp its larger arguments and see that they weren’t just rounded up one day and put on trains. It was a slow process of social and economic alienation followed by years of absolute terror.

    By the way, sweetie, the only thing I’m embarrassed about is the fact that I’m even having this conversation with someone who’s so ignorant.

  • Mocha

    Of course Rush’s comments about Black America was reason to fire Rush. The only thing that bothers me about this is the fact that it took a lilly white lady to get attacked by him in order for something to happen. He’s been talking reckless for years! They’re just using this incident with the young lady as a platform to really make a case. However, I wondered the SAME thing as this author wrote this morning. It took THIS for folks to realize Rush is just a bunch of Bull shiggy?! Wow…

  • Socially Maladjusted

    What “facts” did you “drop on my head

    the fact that the german jews sleep walked into the gas chambers.

    If you don’t know what the Jewish experience in Germany was like,

    Well I wasn’t a jew living in nazi germany so I can only rely on the accounts I’ve read by those who were, same as everyone else who wasn’t there.

    I’d hesitate to comment on it.

    I don’t

    especially if the experience of german jews has lessons to teach today’s generation of blacks – which it often does.

    eg RESIST by any mean necessary, any oppression, the moment it begins. Don’t sleep walk to gas chambers.

    I don’t have the time nor the inclination to describe to you what life was really like.

    Why not? haven’t you learned anything from your ancestor’s mistakes?

    idiot

    Try reading Between Dignity and Despair by Marion Kaplan

    Nah –

    I challenge you to make the time and have the inclination to describe what you’ve learned in your own words.

    If not –

    Shalom – (got that out of the jewish urban dictionary)

    pfft!

  • Jim

    You’re kind of an idiot. Don Imus isn’t the ‘Left’s’ version of anyone.

  • Madame Arnoux

    I led you to water and now you want me to make you drink? That’s not how it works, youngblood. You lack both a knowledge of recent history and empathy. I tried to help you with one, the other is your mama’s problem.

    I hope you’re not black because you’re a disgrace and a discredit to the race.

    The reasons this will be my last response to you is twofold: 1) I can’t abide willful ignorance, and 2) you bore me.

  • Socially Maladjusted

    sweetie

    I gave you the oppportunity to tell your story – you declined my invitation because you didnt’t “have the time or inclination to describe what life was really like for jews” in nazi germany.

    I’d say that, that’s exactly the kind of complacency that allowed the nazis to catch the jews off gaurd.

    Wasn’t asking you teach me anything, I’m not a young bwoy luv, I was born in the early seventies, in england – in a part of london that suffered heavy bombing in WW2. So I grew up in a time when WW2 and the Jewish Holocaust were still very much a topic of the day.

    But still, it would have been interesting to have the jewish holocaust discussed by someone who believes they can offer new insights that might help us to understand jewish passisivity in the face of the clear and overwhelming threat that the nazis posed to them – especially given the history persecution of jews in europe.

    The jews knew what their (european) gentile neighbours were capable of, the holocaust of WW2 wasn’t the first time whites “rose up” against them, yet they seem to have ignored what must have been all too familiar anti-jewish warning signs.

    This was your chance to EDUCATE but all you’ve done is offer one insult after another.

    Seems to me that your only “inclinations” are racist – hence labelling me, a black man, anti-education.

    You started as an idiot and continued your descent from that coz now you’re a

    racist idiot.

    get lost

  • chrisAllen

    Socially Maladjusted, you should take the Madame’s advice.

    For you to suggest that Jews slept-walked to the Holocaust, is just plain stupid! Since you admittedly state that you …”wasn’t a jew living in nazi germany so I can only rely on the accounts I’ve read by those who were, same as everyone else who wasn’t there,” then maybe you should start reading about those accounts from those who were Jews living there.

    History provides an undeniably great 20-20 hindsight view. Many do wonder could the Jewish people have seen this coming. Many would come to your conclusion, Socially Maladjusted. But for those who lived through it and those who have researched this, it isn’t near as clear as you state. You have a lot to learn.

    So keep reading and seek out those who have extensive knowledge of this, and I would suspect that when you do your conclusion would not be near as adamant as you proclaim today.

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