When I first read about the case of Sharmeka Moffitt, 20, of Winnsboro, Louisiana, the young woman who alleged that she was attacked and set on fire by three men wearing “white hoodies,” my first instinct was not to discount her violent tale, as did some of my more cynical – or observant – colleagues in media.

True, it was horrifically extreme, but in a region known for racism, in the midst of a socio-political climate seething with rage and thinly suppressed bigotry, it was believable. In the era of James Craig Anderson and movie signs being vandalized to announce the showing of ‘N**gers 3D: Dark Black Men,I did not find her story as far-fetched as those people not born in the Deep South, but I still reserved my anger for when the facts emerged.

When it was discovered that Moffitt had created the entire, twisted story, the residual tremors continued to rock social media. There were those who immediately defended their advocacy to get Sharpton and Jackson on the phone, because, after all, “if it weren’t for racist ass white folk doing shit like that, we wouldn’t have believed it,” as one Facebook post so eloquently stated.

So, we know what that says about them, but what does that say about us?  Of course such broad terms as us and them cannot be universally applied, but flow with me for a moment.

We could use this space to discuss the quickness with which some people immediately label a black woman a liar and what that says about victim blaming in the African-American community – but I’d rather not, this one time, in favor of examining the flip-side of that reaction. Many black people, without any confirmation, prepared to fight for Sharmeka Moffitt until there was no fight left. And while that is admirable on the surface, there remains a huge, Black elephant in the room:

There are thousands upon thousands of cases of black people being victimized by black people, and the tsk-tsks don’t last past the next headline.

Where was this outrage when Latonya Bowman, 22, was abducted, set on fire, and then shot in an ambush set by her ex-boyfriend? If her attackers had been white, there would have been t-shirts and protests. The fund created for her would have been heavily publicized, and she would have definitely been invited to share her story on television.

Let’s be clear: This is not to mitigate the very real fear that comes with “Walking While Black,” as Moffitt was doing on the night that she alleged that she was attacked, nor the excessive nature of the alleged crime. It is merely to address this racial demagoguery that compels us to channel our collective energy into fighting “The Man,” even in phantom acts of racism, while rarely holding the people that look like us accountable – even with tangible evidence staring us in the face.

What are we so afraid of?

We jump on issues such as these as if to say: “See, this is what we face in this country. Look at what we have to go through at the hands of white America.” But we spray air-freshener on our own sh*t and blame the stench on racism.  Whatever emotional and/or psychological issues Moffitt faces, in the same class as Tawana Brawley, she was still able to grasp the fears and prejudices of black America, and many of us fell right in line, picket signs at the ready.

Hopefully, this case makes us examine our triggers a little more closely and determine why we don’t have that same passion when real vicious crimes are done to us, by us. Men in white hoods are not the boogeymen nor kryptonite of black America, and we owe it to ourselves to care just as much when the national narrative is not centered on race.

Maybe it’s taken the lie of a 20-year-old girl to introduce us to that truth.

 

  • b

    Sigh..

    The are some hard facts that we must deal with. First we have to let go of the myth of Black on Black crime. Most murder/ crime is intraracial and race is not the motivation for the crime. Intraracial crime is rooted in personal conflict and proximity…not race.

    Both root issues CAN be dealt with by the community. We have violence interpreters,mediators and conflict resolution programs because of these personal conflicts sometimes lead to violence.There are black people out in the streets every single day fighting crimes.

    There are people in the streets trying to diffuse these conflicts everyday. There was nothing that could have been done to diffuse racially motivated attacks. There is no personal conflict issue that we could mediate when race is the motivation. Black people are not killing black people because we are black.

    I have diffused several personal conflicts in my life to prevent violence among black folks… I have yet had the chance to stop of racist a-hole for killing a black person.

    I hope people realize there is a vast difference in how the issue of violence in our community is one that can be reduced with our efforts and how racially motivated violence is something that WE don’t have control over and is outside OUR scope of influence. This is why Trayvon’s murder impacted us in a different way and illicit a different reaction. To not make these distinctions if intellectually dishonest.

  • Beautiful Mic

    If she lied, then what really happened where she had to end up with severe injury?

  • Smilez_920

    I was listening to power 105.1 this morning and DJ envy talked about getting pulled over because he was ” a black man in a nice car”. So while he explained his story his co-host Charlemane said ” while being racially profiled isn’t cool, can you really blame them. We make or bad for ourselves sometimes “.

    When it comes to white on black crime , I think some ppl fear that if a white on black crime goes unpunished that it will open the gates for more discrimination . At one point in our history a white women could point at any black man on the street, scream rape, and it was over for him. If a white rape a back women , sometime it would take heck and high water to get him convicted . Once you move out the neighborhood where the BOB is abundant , you feel like its not as much of a major concern to your personal saftey. WOB can happen no matter what zip code you live in, how many white neighbors you have ,how educated or ” good you are”.

    I also think the media gets better ratings off white on black crime. Think about how the national news papers write about the violence in Chicago vs a Travin Martin Situation ( that’s both blk and white media outlets ).

    Black on black crime is a very troubling because as much as some of us don’t like it, a lot of us have become accustom to it, it’s like we’ve adopted it as part of our culture. It like we’ve glorified coming from violent neighborhoods/ hood culture. I mean I can go to a neighborhood and see 50 ppl outside with a ” free Lil Neek Neek” t-shirt but there could be a kid on the same block who just got into college and needs a couple extra dollars for books and can’t get those same 50 ppl to donate a dollar to him/her. It’s like we’ve excepted that our neighborhoods have to be HOOD. And the grown ups are just as wild as the kids, some what do you expect. ( no this is not every blk persons mentality just to put it out there.)

    While their isn’t a national outcry about black on black violence , usually the people in the city where’s is abundant ( like Chicago , Philly, etc…) are speaking there piece.

  • victoria

    Let’s face it, crimes in our community is out of control. Let’s also face that people have choices. For some reason too many in our community are taking the wrong path. Yes, we are presented with inadequate education, poor housing, and medical care, single parent homes, lower incomes, BUT we can start to tackle these issues by building two parent families, furthering education (whether at university, trade, or work experience level), place God at the head of our homes, WE HAVE TO STOP EXPECTING THE GOVT TO SAVE US. IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN, AIIGHT.

    We have to recognize that satan’s job is to kill, steal, and destroy. He has done a great job tearing down family, moral, and Christian foundations in our community. Why we choose to ignore that we are the only ones who can correct our problems, I dont know ?!?!

  • lol

    thank you!

  • b

    The white woman Bethany Storro who threw acid in her own face originally told police an bw approached outside a Starbucks in downtown Vancouver and asked, “Hey pretty girl, want something to drink?,” before throwing acid in her face. She also had a severe injury.

    2008: Another example is Young Republican who claimed Obama supporter carved letter ‘B’ on her face during robbery, but in fact did it to herself.

    Going further back to the famous case of Charles Stuart in 1989. He shot his wife pregnant and himself in the leg and said it happened during a carjacking by a bm.

    What Moffitt might have done is not new..

  • The Patient One

    “20-year-old girl”

    You mean 20-year-old WOMAN

  • Smilez_920

    *accepted ( sorry guys / still half sleep).

  • b

    I must say. I am flabbergasted how one black person for whatever reason chose to do the wrong thing ( allegedly) and it becomes a referendum on what’s wrong with black people? Can’t black folks be individually responsible for what they do without the entire community being scolded? I just don’t get it.

    I am just saying..

  • b

    * is

  • J.B. Muskrat

    We have no community. It’s broken as is many of our families or family unit. Our kids have no morals and they fear nothing.

  • OhPuhleezee

    In a recent conversation with a White male he went on and on about what we (Blacks) can do about the ills of our (Black) community. He spoke about how the great majority of these crimes have Black males as victims and perpetrators.

    I asked him why I, a Black female, hold some responsibility to curb violence but he, a white male, has no responsibility in those efforts. His answer was “Because it’s your community and your people.”

    I then pointed out that both he and I are Americans, living in the same state, the same county and the same city. Therefore we are from the same community. We share an equal amount of traits to the Black male; me being Black, him being male. If the problem is the Black male, why is this a Black problem and not a male problem? Males as a whole far out number Blacks. If the issue of crime was thought of in this context would more be done to curb crime in our community?

  • victoria

    I remember…back in the day…

    This isnt new. In the 80s, many community leaders, churches, rappers, community residents fought hard to tackle black on black crime. Two decades later, it’s more out of control. When NWA first came out, people said, ”No, uh-uh, this isnt right. The name, the lyrics.” Gansta rap blew up. Many in our community objected to it. But many also welcomed it.

    Self Destruction, your headed for self destruction… MC Lyte had the best verse

  • victoria

    If it didnt negatively impact the entire community…

  • Smilez_920

    These new rappers are making to much money off self destruction to care. I mean I don’t mind the rapping about their old life style. But even when they get money they bring a destructive attitude with them . ( ex: Rick Ross vs Jezzy at the BET awards.)

    And the animosity towards each other when it comes to fixing the issues in our community is just as bad. How can we ask others to respect our community when so many ppl in it don’t respect it.

  • apple

    “There are thousands upon thousands of cases of black people being victimized by black people, and the tsk-tsks don’t last past the next headline.”

    this is why there is no outcry.. because its so common, its only after the 100th story of the same year that you can keep caring about it..then it just becomes another day…

  • b

    So if some black person tells a lie, it impacts me? I am sorry, but I am not going to conflate two separate issue to make some false connection to scold the community What does Moffitt lying has to do with ” black on black crime” violence? Nothing.

  • Smilez_920

    I get what your saying in a ” we are the world sort of way”. But how can we expect ppl to want to be involed in a community that they have no relation to when the ppl in that community won’t take some responsibilty . I mean sure the white man can help ( local and politicians , which a lot of ppl in out community don’t vote for ; not saying all politicians are white ) are that helping hand. I mean other communities get these helpings hands because , they support their own before they look for someone else to do it. They see the strength and value in having a strong self community. Of course as a black women you are not solely responsible , black men have to step up to. But when you relie on the ( white mans help) you have to accept all the consequences and rules that come with it vs your communtiy creating your its own strong help and saftey net and starting from there.

  • http://gravatar.com/eynapanirb B.Payne

    It makes me chuckle @ how some blk ppl feel that the WHOLE black race is affected when it’s the individuals themselves causing commotions. I refuse to feel responsible for what Sharmika did to HERSELF just because I’m a black female.

    The only way the blk community will be a community is if “individuals” develop a strong sense of self and hold themselves responsible for their own actions without calling on Jesse/Al for help. It makes me puke how some blks feel like we NEED another spokesperson for the community. Maybe it was necessary in the 60s/70s but now ppl need to do better and stop leaning/blaming everyone other than themselves….until that happens, stories/situation like these will continue.

    It starts at home and IMO, that’s where most of the issues begin for some misguided ppl.

  • Lady P

    Hmm…great question.

    Throughout history, we have learned how to organize and galvanize against hate crimes. And with hate crimes still carrying the same malice intent to destroy, we continue to create more of a mass outcry in order to prevent any additional senseless or immoral deaths. Similar to past efforts, in hopes of the more people speaking out, the better results of change taking place.

    We have the same senseless, unnecessary deaths on black on black crime, which is worse (self-hatred). So where is the outcry? I think it stems from the way in which our community has evolved. We have stirred awayfrom proper upbringing (period), goes w/o saying two-parent homes, but also from the “village” scenario as a whole. Now any problems that families are faced with is an individual problem; not a community problem. In the past; if the father was absent, it was understood that an uncle would step-in to help guide the young men as an example. Not that many brother keepers/sister keepers or big brothers/big sisters in existence. Less people care; therefore, less vocal concerns are heard as it relates to black on black crimes.

    Also with black on black crimes constantly risin’, there is a challenge of how to decrease or at least regain control within the communities. As an end result, people may have become somewhat hopeless or have given up entirely. When the decision to act does take place, it’s usually when it hits close to home.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christelyn Christelyn Russell-Karazin

    To answer you question, author, the fact remains that it is easier (and less painful) to unite for an external enemy than an internal one. The black community has been well-trained to unite against what we deem as racist, but we often cover and dismiss what you so aptly said was the “elephant in the room.” True is, fighting outside enemies is often a welcome distraction for the violence we are doing to ourselves.

  • hmmmmm

    She was lying. Not a good example.

  • Anthony

    I live in a metro area that is undergoing a rash of very violent crimes committed by young black men. I don’t know anything a nerdy old fat guy with no swag like me can do to reach these guys. In real terms, I am more afraid of young black men than I am of racist rednecks or cops.

    The recent case of the 15 and 17 year old black boys that lured a 12 year old white girl to their house to murder her for her bicycle in New Jersey leaves me depressed and hopeless about the total lack of morals and respect for life among many young blacks.

  • Lady P

    it is easier (and less painful) to unite for an external enemy than an internal one ~ this is it in a nutshell.

  • hmmmmm

    “The recent case of the 15 and 17 year old black boys that lured a 12 year old white girl to their house to murder her for her bicycle in New Jersey leaves me depressed and hopeless about the total lack of morals and respect for life among many young blacks.”

    I agree. So let’s look for answers. Every behavioral pattern has a history, and you can not change behavior without dealing with that first; the history of ones patterns. Where are they learning it? Who or what is the model for their behavior?

  • Smilez_920

    @B

    I think think the author used a bad example. I think the Travon Martin situation would have been better, since a lot of black ppl asked the question of ” where’s all this rage when one black person kills another”.

    Yes we are all individuals . And no we are not soley responsible for the bad choices of others who look like us. But even if it doesn’t affect you directly as a black person, sometimes it still has a little impact. ( like the example I gave above with the DJ getting pulled over by the cops. While we see ourselves as individuals , some times ppl group us in one category and unfortunately it’s not always a positive one) .

    But yes I agree that personal resonasibilty needs to be looked at.

  • Real Talk

    The avoidance to speak on black on black crime is a symptom of the black community being taught and preached to that all of your problems are not fault. It’s been 60 years of these so called leaders aka preachers professors saying and doing the same thing. They have no solutions. They’re afraid to point out the very problems that they themselves created black illegitmacy. Which is the root of all the social problems in the black community ie crime, dropouts and poverty all of which lead to dysfunction in the home, schools and communities.

  • Real Talk

    Doesn’t make a difference if it’s a black snake or a white snake it wil still bite you. If you are a black male, you are 9 times more likely to be murdered than a white man. 9 TIMES!!! 94% of these murders of black men are committed by other blacks. Now, you tell me which snake should you be more concerned about?

  • paul

    @b

    “The are some hard facts that we must deal with. First we have to let go of the myth of Black on Black crime. Most murder/ crime is intraracial and race is not the motivation for the crime. Intraracial crime is rooted in personal conflict and proximity…not race.”

    *black man glowing with (humble) pride here*

    brilliant

    this ^^ is what a very intelligent black person looks like.

    get some

    When African Americans are good – they’re the best out there -

    when it comes to elaborating on race dynamics.

    When they’re no good eg – have an agenda to minimize and turn the spotlight away from white america’s crimes against blacks –

    you get weak counter narratives like this which attempt to portray blacks as more dangerous to themselves than whites.

    “Why don’t blacks care as much about black on black violence as they do racist violence?”

    ok

    why is that question only asked when whites commit racist violence against blacks?

    When is black on black violence ever treated as a matter for discussion in its own right (in forums like this one) – independent of reference to white on black violence?

  • Anthony

    I disagree. We black people have a long history of self help. In fact, for a very long time, if we had not practiced self help, we would have had no help at all.
    The leaders over last sixty years who lead us the streets were rallying our community, they were not depending on outside help. If black bodies had not been in the streets, we would not have had white help.

    As for crime, I think we have been slow to criticize because so many want place all blame on the black community without the outside community accepting any fault at all.

    That said, the time has come for us to be openly harsh on black criminals, and be just as critical on the families of those who enable them and benefit financially from their criminal activities.

    It is probably too late to save some who have been desensitized, but we have start making violent criminals pay prices that make violence unattractive.

    I also think we should look at the practices of the United Nations in reforming child soldiers who have also engaged in violence as children, and who have been desensitized.

  • YiaYia

    There is a video that went viral about a black male stomping out a black woman, all because she told him to get out of her house because he was not invited into her house. All the comments from black men were praising the video because ‘that’s what she get.’

    And get this: she didn’t raise a hand to him at all. He just wanted to beat her up and instead of the other males helping, they videotaped it.

    I’d love to see who’s gonna write about that.

  • apple

    get the transcript.. lol i mean gimme the link

  • Smilez_920

    I think that video is from someone in Cheif Keefs entourage ( Lil Reese) in Chicago . Again a community in need of help for its women/girls and men/boys . ( violent man beats women –> women internalizes actions and either accepts them or reflects them–> child sees and has the chance to imitae cycle continues )

  • Anthony

    When it comes to that Cheif Keef and his crew, all I can say is where are all of the abusive cops when you want one to actually want someone’s head cracked?

    Since the video is posted, somebody should get arrested.

  • Cocochanel31

    We’ve become desensitized to it sad to say. OUR MEN must take our BOYS BACK!! They are the ones who are lost doing all this killing..men need to step up in their communities and do the work that is required, even for the child that is not their own at this point.

  • jourdan

    I was definitely one of the people who were riled up when first hearing about the Sharmeka Moffitt incident. After finding out that she set herself ablaze, honestly, I was a little disappointed. I felt a little betrayed.

    But, I realize that Sharmeka is going through something right now. Something triggered in her to want to hurt herself, and I still do pray for her and her family. I feel that this situation does, in fact, begin the conversation of psychological problems in the Black household. We are so quick to say “Ain’t nothing wrong with me. I don’t need a therapist.” But, sometimes that’s exactly what we need. I pray that Sharmeka gets the help that she needs and her family still shows support for her. I still support Sharmeka and I hope you all look past whatever lie she told to see that this was an outcry for help!

  • silkynaps

    I wouldn’t discount Sharmeka Moffitt just yet.
    Please, this is coming from the racist South.
    As far as I’m concerned, until she confesses to committing a horrific crime against herself, I’ll just assume that the officers conducting the investigation were either the ones wearing white hoodies or were related to the ones that were.

  • Real Talk

    How about Black women teach their daughters about Birth Control. That’s the only way this is going to stop. Teens and young women have been having sex since the beginning on civilization. The only difference is they use to get married in their teens.

  • Cocochanel31

    The problem is two fold! The men are HERE..AND THEY ARE HERE NOW! While yes we must educate our daughters to PLAN their parenthood, what do we do with the millions of black boys that have already been born?? Do we just continue to ignore them like we’ve been doing???

    Black men can be Steve Perry’s in their own neighborhoods……

    Note: Just because SOME teens were FORCED to marry due to a pregnancy back in the day, does NOT mean it was a marriage without struggle or even a marriage made in Heaven.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kenneshea.allums Kenneshea Allums

    Men in white hoodies may not be as activetoday as they once were, but don’t get it twisted and feel like their legacy has transpired. a year ago in Jackson, MS white teenagers set out on a mission to get niggas and were terrorizing black residents and weren’t stopped until they finally brutally attacked, ran over, and killed a black man. I don’t think it’s fair to suggest black people turn the other cheek when the violence is black on black, we don’t have to rally on the victims behalf because the police and media are quick to assassinate iblacks n the public and lock us away. We still sympathesze and advocate on their behalf, but we don’t have to worry about the criminals “getting off.” The reason we rally for black victims of “race crimes” is because a lot of time their stories don’t receive attention and will be swept under the rug, take trayvon and troy davis for example. how long did it take for the nation to find out was going on with their cases. It wasn’t until trayvon’s story went viral on social media that the media picked it up, and there still has been no justice. Don’t be so quick to write Sharmeka off either, she still has not spoken…

  • paul

    Didn’t see much outcry about the recent incident of black on black violence involving a young black woman and an elderly black bus driver.

    On the contrary, some of the names bleating about black on black violence in this discussion practically gave it a standing ovation in that discussion.

    Are we to believe that these same people are now suddenly concerned about black on black violence?

    —————–

    No matter what the issue, they’ll find a way to blame or punish black people for it – or to gloat whatever misfortune it causes to black people.

  • jourdan

    I mean, you have R.Kelly praising Chief Keef on all of his “talent”, BET doing pieces on him as “the next hottest rapper”. When you have endorsements like that, that drowns out a lot of the anti-Chief Keef comments. Which is just horrible! The media (who I believe has the most control over what we see/think) has to stop condoning BS like this. This is a 17 yr old walking around talking about guns, cursing, etc. Then we wonder why teenagers walk around being “thuggish”. Because they’re imitating what they see on BET & what rappers like Kanye say is the hottest thing out right now. It’s sad to me. I wanna see us do better!

  • Anthony

    Are you talking about me? If so, I changed my mind about that situation, the more I thought about it. As bad as that young woman’s actions were, the bus driver should have been professional, not slug her like he was George Foreman

  • Smilez_920

    Agreed. It does start at home. I don’t think these communities need another Al or Jessie. But they do need some type of representative to help fix some of the socioeconomic problems in the community. ( a City Council Memeber that cares, a chairman on the school board who has new and innovate ways to reach the kids who need help and are trying). But yes as individuals the change starts from with in and is only a choice they themselves can make.

  • victoria

    Paul, I beg to differ. I think many commentors spoke out against the young lady for assaulting the bus driver. Let’s remember she threw the first punch. No one said she had the right to place her hands on him. And yes, in theory, that was black on black crime. Now if your speaking of chivalry or overkill regarding his retaliation, that’s a different story.

  • paul

    Yep

    many did condemn the violence between those two people, I was one of them – but a lot of the same names feigning concern about BOB violence in this discussion, applauded it in that discussion.

    That’s who I’m talking about.

    regarding this point -

    “And yes, in theory, that was black on black crime”

    exactly what is theoretical about a full scale violent assault and a full scale violent retaliation?

    I define BOB violence as a conflict between two or more black people involving acts intended to cause physical harm.

    Doesn’t matter if everyone walks away having suffered no severe or permanent damage.

    Do we really have to start our enquiries at such a basic level because some of us don’t know what violence is?

    I can’t do this – I just can’t

    LMAO!

    Will somebody please let me into the 1%. I’m “British”, I can be butler or something. I am so beginning to understand their raison d’etre.

    Who wants be around this mess?

    Ok I didn’t mean that but

    damn . . . sigh!

    You yanks are beautiful, got a knock out saying for every occasion

    Must just keep on keep onin

  • http://fromthoughtsintowords.blogspot.com/ rkahendi

    Thank you for taking on the elephant in the room @Kirsten West Savali. This had to be said. Many people seem to have the belief that holding black perpetrators of violent crime accountable is equivalent to being an apologist for racism. And it’s not just an American thing. Similar views hold the world over. Many communities struggle with the similar issues.

    My opinion: we need to be more broadly critical of violence in all its forms, whoever is doing it. We also need to be honest to ourselves about our biases instead of trying to justify them. If we don’t hold ourselves or people who look like us accountable for their deliberate actions, we all suffer in the end.

  • Keepitreal

    “They’re afraid to point out the very problems that they themselves created black illegitmacy. Which is the root of all the social problems in the black community”

    ICAM, but how do you change the current mindset? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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  • http://gravatar.com/chanela17 chanela17

    what the facebook comment said could also go for the incidents where white women make up things and blame black men.

  • http://cupofjo-jo.blogspot.com bk chick

    I think part of it has to due with the perception and the likelihood of you being involved in “black on black” crimes versus racially specific crimes. When I think of “intraracial crime” I think of drug dealers, gangs, etc. Things that I would personally NEVER be involved in and have never been involved in. Even when I was living in places where I had an increased chance of being harmed indirectly by those same crimes, the best tactic was avoidance. I never felt like I was a particular target at any given time. However, when you have a racist attack committed by a white person against a black one, the message is that I am the target. All I have to do is be black, which is something I can’t change/avoid. Even if I’m not involved in any wrong doing, I can be harmed simply for being who I am. In that sense, the nature of intraracial crime and racial crimes committed by an external group is VERY different. It’s much easier for black people across economic and social lines to come together and rally around something that will affect them, because it is the one major thing we all have in common.

    However, there is def wayy too much crime in many black communities to simply ignore and explain it away. The problems seem so embedded that any attempt to start a turn around seems futile. I honestly think the best solution is education. But, that’s only long term. I’m not sure if I have too much hope for the younger children and teens who are already heavily involved in crime now….

  • ruby

    Please when have you hear any outcry about white on white crime. We do love to find the chance to ridicule ourselves. It’s from this mentality of hate that makes us conduct Bob crime in the first place. The brawler girl was raped. Like your mind has been raped.

  • jillodelight

    Yep, I saw that too and only one (I counted) black man commenter stood up for what was right, and they made it seem like he was crazy. Remember that article “Be Honest Do You Like Black Men?” a few weeks ago. LOL Should we be loyal to a group of men who don’t protect us, much less like?

  • Eric

    Yeah, because they would be quick to call a 20 year old man GROWN, lol

  • Eric

    Stop asking MEN who you as collectively as women rejected, but now have a fire in your house & you need firemen to put the fire you created out.

    let that itch BURN

  • Eric

    LMAO @ Anthony

    It’s uppercutting season

  • Eric

    1. No such thing as black on black crime. Crime is crime.

    2. Most crime (75%) in the black community is economically motivated. Black male sabotage by the TPTB plays a role in this (slavery, jim crow, eugenist programs, crack epidemic, criminalization of black males, chemicals in the food, glorification of ignorance via black tv & music, female empowerment & sexual selection.)

    3. Create a system where black families can sufficiently provide food, clothing & shelter for their families, which involves cooperation.

    4. My big thing here is that, black women need to holla at the men they sleep with for community support, not black men who have little to do with your effed up situation.

  • Shirl

    This!!! This is why I love Clutch..intelligent debate without name calling. We can respectfully agree to disagree without taking it as a personal attack. I attempted a discussion on another site that shall remain nameless (Bossip), was told to go find my out of wedlock baby daddy, was called fat, ugly, a welfare queen and every other deragatory name for a black woman you can think of. Needless to say i no longer waste my time visiting that site. I know I’m off topic but needed to get that off my chest.

  • http://www.facebook.com/X23sexy Wong Chia Chi

    I’m in favor of the spirit of this essay, but I hate the fact that community activism that IS going on seems to always be overlooked.

    I’m from the South Side of Chicago, and awareness of the violence in our communities and looking for ways to stop it IS going on. Usually church groups facilitate this process. They are marching in the streets and holding rallies when a member of the community is killed in black on black crime.

    If discussions like these began with research into what communities are already doing, I would find them credible. But they start from invalid assumptions, like that black people don’t care about crime when the perpetrator is black, THEY DO, and reach invalid conclusions, like a call for community activism that is already happening.

    People act as thought they can’t remember what happened the last time people of color got together, en masse to demand and enact social/economic changes int heir communities. There are barriers within and without.

    The Black Panthers were a big on positive social change, but they were demonized, called communist agitators and disbanded and dispossessed using the most horrible violation of civil liberties and illegal surveillance.

    Can’t have the darkies getting organized, they might actually be a threat to our power structure.You might say the Panthers were too vocal in their criticisms of white supremacy but.white supremacy goes hand in hand with many ills that plague the black community. Let’s not delude ourselves. We didn’t walk across Africa, build a boat, sail it here and then enslave/ disenfranchise/ and oppress ourselves.

    I’ve seen the discrimination from city authorites first hand, and whenever an Alderman got in the cities face about not maintaining buildings or even streets they got excuses and the runaround before something was finally done.

    Community activism alone won’t stop the unemployment problem, that plagues many low income high crime areas. But since we wanna act like it will can we at least acknowledge that it is happening.

    And why is it that places like Lowell Massachusetts, majority working class and white, if you’ve ever seen the movie “The Fighter” that’s where the story takes place, that experienced a major crack epidemic after the factory that employed most of the town got shut down are never brought up as an example of how “White people need to get their shit together, they don’t care when a white man kills a white man but they get all up in arms when a black man does it. White people need to get their communities in check.”?

    Maybe because white crime is considered a side effect of poverty, no one ever insinuates that white’s have a pathological problem linked to their race, and also whites are judged as individuals. And lets not get it twisted, white people get their panties in a bunch when the perpetrator is white and the victim is black too! It damn sure goes both ways and I even go so far as to say it goes more one way than the other.

    When has a corrupt policemen that shot a black person unfairly, been lynched?

    The reason we overreact when we hear about stuff like this is because for so long we haven’t been able to do anything about it when it happens, or it’s handled poorly. Not the case for white people with that one exception that they won’t let go.

    L.A. spent 10 million trying O.J. and white people are still mad about that. BUT those same people will in the same breath make excuses for the equally guilty and equally acquitted Casey Anthony bitch, or they just shut the hell up.

    Somehow when the perpetrator of a brutal murder, of a child, is an adorable white woman who just wants to party then all of the sudden they want to talk about “circumstancial evidence” “no physical evidence” and “bad childhood”.

    And finally, people who perpetrate these kind of crimes, like the Duke University strippers, and Bethany Storro “the black lady threw acid in my face” are opportunists with serious issues. They don’t change the fact that hate crimes happen more often than fake hate crimes.

    I see it as a separate discussion. It’s like men who insist that false rape somehow is more prevalent than rape, and that people should take it easy, in order to justify the fact that sexual assault is not taken seriously enough and is often a discussion of what the the victim did to provoke it or didn’t do to prevent it.

    False crimes are a separate issue from real crimes. And they make up a small percentage of cases.

  • http://gravatar.com/juhmeese JMichelle

    Personally I think it’s the shame of knowing another black person committed the crime that keeps us from going up in arms the way we do when the instigator is white. Black on Black crime is an embarrassment, almost every negative news story involves black-on-black or black-on-white so when these things happen it’s validating the fears and racist beliefs of others. So we sweep it under the rug and try not to draw more attention to it.

    That’s my own little theory.

  • Shaun

    A coworker and I lived in the same building – her apt faces the street. We are both black. A black man outside was breaking into cars, and she witnessed it, but didn’t want to call the police “on a brother”. I told her she was wrong, and to consider that the victim of the crime might be a brother or a sister. Many black people have the mindset of “no snitching”. This helps crime to flourish in our communities; remember, the criminal you protect today might come after you and yours tomorrow.

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