Celebrities At The Lakers Game

Yesterday, a new chapter in Rihanna and Evelyn Lozada’s private lives went public in different ways. Rihanna made her first official public appearance with Chris Brown since their domestic violence incident in 2009. The former lovers attended a Los Angeles Lakers vs. New York Knicks game at Staples Center. The duo cuddled courtside and even dressed alike to the chagrin of critics and approval of fans. “Chrianna” supporters took to social media to show their support for the twosome, some even revealing they “want love like Chris and Rihanna’s” and applauding them for not caring what others think of their relationship.

Likewise, Evelyn Lozada and Chad ‘Ochocinco’ Johnson had a public exchange on Twitter. Chad tweeted to Evelyn about kissing under the mistletoe to which Evelyn responded with a kiss of her own. Chad also revealed that they are not only speaking again, but living together:

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Christmas appeared to be the day of second chances.

Both Rihanna and Evelyn Lozada are adamant that they are not role models, but the fact remains that their actions can impact impressionable fans.

Their reconciliation with former lovers who abused them can be viewed in a myriad of ways. For many fans, it sends the message that love conquers all, even abuse. Some see it as a redemption narrative with second chances for the men, who both appear to have changed their violent ways at least for the time being. Still, many others believe Rihanna and Evelyn’s choices send the wrong message and condone abusive behavior in relationships.

What are your thoughts, Clutchettes and Gents?

  • Doreah

    Why in the world are we focusing on what message the women are sending, when in both cases they were the ones abused? How does this not smack at all of victim blaming to the writer and publishers of this article?

    Let’s focus instead on what these men, these known abusers, are doing.

    Let’s focus on how normalized it is in our society to accept an abuser back into the fold: to listen to his music in the case of Chris Brown, to hand him awards in the case of Roman Polanski, to watch his movies in the case of Sean Penn, or his TV shows in the case of Sean Bean. Of course it’s easy for a woman to return to an abuser when all of society is saying again – and again and again – that he deserves a second chance, a tabula rasa. Yet when she does this, society turns on her and calls her idiotic for doing it, the same way we call people in the media oversensitive for not handing those men their “deserved” second chance.

    What message was Chris Brown sending when he beat her? That would be a better question. What message were we sending when we made him a top selling musician again? What message was our justice system sending when he was released early? What message were gossip rags sending when they disrespected Rihanna’s privacy and published pictures of her despite her saying that the images disturbed her? What message were the Grammys sending when they had him perform last year? What message was American society sending when they watched? What message was he sending with his battery of abusive tweets? What message were his fans sending when they continued to follow him on the site? These are the questions we should ask.

  • Britt

    If we in society make Rihanna and Evelyn Lozada the face of domestic violence, we run the risk of desensitizing people to a serious issue. Yes, we all know domestic violence is wrong, but every situation isn’t black and white. We have to acknowledge that there could be some grey area in both of these cases. In Evelyn’s case, she made a name for herself as an abuser and a bully and that’s the reason she went on a media tour after the incident with Chad. She knew people had no sympathy for her. Evelyn did hit her former best friend Jennifer in the head with her purse and she co-signed her assistant slapping Jennifer (before she jumped on the table to fight her).

    With Rihanna, it should be no surprise that her and Chris are back together. Didn’t we all watch her interview with Oprah, when she bared her soul and said she still loved Chris? If people would read Rihanna’s interviews, this wouldn’t be shocking. Every time she’s asked about the incident, she gets defensive and talks in circles. (Call me what you want, but I believe it was a two-way fight.)

    I’m a Rihanna fan, and there’s so much more about her, besides her being with Chris, that doesn’t make her role model. Her IDGAF attitude, song lyrics and scantily clad photos.

    And I don’t even know why Evelyn has fans to begin with. Also, stop standing up for causes and not knowing your target. If you want to take a stand against domestic violence, that can be done without involving Rihanna and Evelyn.

  • http://tontonmichel.tumblr.com/ Tonton Michel

    Its all good if the two men sought help for their anger issues, and that’s what concerns me. Did they address whatever it is that allowed them to lose control and lash out like that on the women they supposedly love. But I guess that should be the concern of the women and not the public.

  • kaya

    It irks me so much when public figures say they’re not role models. Right next too, “your parents should be their kids role models”.
    Honest to God, i nothing the situation because one i just dont care, but two just like the statements above, that I wrote, the “couple”(s) getting back together shows a level of ignorance to the situation. Lack of understanding of the psychological harm they are doing to themselves. But what can ya do? They see the situation in a simplistic manner and expecting normal results and encourage everyone else to do the same.

  • badgirlinchicago

    These women are not role models and if they want some lump lumps from their men, let them.

  • Britt

    If we in society make Rihanna and Evelyn Lozada the face of domestic violence, we run the risk of desensitizing people to a serious issue. Yes, we all know domestic violence is wrong, but every situation isn’t black and white. We have to acknowledge that there could be some grey area in both of these cases. In Evelyn’s case, she made a name for herself as an abuser and a bully and that’s the reason she went on a media tour after the incident with Chad. She knew people had no sympathy for her. Evelyn did hit her former best friend Jennifer in the head with her purse and she co-signed her assistant slapping Jennifer (before she jumped on the table to fight her).

    With Rihanna, it should be no surprise that her and Chris are back together. Didn’t we all watch her interview with Oprah, when she bared her soul and said she still loved Chris? If people would read Rihanna’s interviews, this wouldn’t be shocking. Every time she’s asked about the incident, she gets defensive and talks in circles. (Call me what you want, but I believe it was a two-way fight.)

    I’m a Rihanna fan, and there’s so much more about her, besides her being with Chris, that doesn’t make her role model. Her “I don’t care” attitude, song lyrics and scantily clad photos.

    And I don’t even know why Evelyn has fans to begin with. Also, stop standing up for causes and not knowing your target. If you want to take a stand against domestic violence, that can be done without involving Rihanna and Evelyn.

  • omfg

    i don’t care about their lives. i’ve got enough issues of my own.

  • kaya

    But see that’s not true they are role models. They are role models for somebody and like it or not someone is learning from their behavior. So these couple might be the exception to the rule, CB may never hit her again but that’s not everyone’s story. And while they shouldn’t stop living because of someone else they need to realize all the people including themselves they’re putting at risk in hope that they are exception to the rule.

  • http://Clutch Lynette

    In this world we are a bunch of hypocrites.We have Ministers of Religion who preach against prostitution and adultery only to find out that they too indulge. We have persons who speak out against homosexuality only to find out they are into it big time. Let the people exhale. How do we know that behind closed doors the people who condemn them are not wife and husband beaters (yes men too get abused). We can only pray that in the cases of Chris and Chad they were one off and they have learnt their lessons.

  • Britt

    I feel like this: If we in society make Rihanna and Evelyn Lozada the face of domestic violence, we run the risk of desensitizing people to a serious issue. Yes, we all know domestic violence is wrong, but every situation isn’t black and white. We have to acknowledge that there could be some grey area in both of these cases. In Evelyn’s case, she made a name for herself as an abuser and a bully and that’s the reason she went on a media tour after the incident with Chad. She knew people had no sympathy for her. Evelyn did hit her former best friend Jennifer in the head with her purse and she co-signed her assistant slapping Jennifer (before she jumped on the table to fight her).

    With Rihanna, it should be no surprise that her and Chris are back together. Didn’t we all watch her interview with Oprah, when she bared her soul and said she still loved Chris? If people would read Rihanna’s interviews, this wouldn’t be shocking. Every time she’s asked about the incident, she gets defensive and talks in circles. (Call me what you want, but I believe it was a two-way fight.)

    I’m a Rihanna fan, and there’s so much more about her, besides her being with Chris, that doesn’t make her role model. Her IDGAF attitude, song lyrics and scantily clad photos.

    And I don’t even know why Evelyn has fans to begin with. Also, stop standing up for causes and not knowing your target. If you want to take a stand against domestic violence, that can be done without involving Rihanna and Evelyn.

  • Britt

    I feel like this: If we in society make Rihanna and Evelyn Lozada the face of domestic violence, we run the risk of desensitizing people to a serious issue. Yes, we all know domestic violence is wrong, but every situation isn’t black and white. We have to acknowledge that there could be some grey area in both of these cases. In Evelyn’s case, she made a name for herself as an abuser and a bully and that’s the reason she went on a media tour after the incident with Chad. She knew people had no sympathy for her. Evelyn did hit her former best friend Jennifer in the head with her purse and she co-signed her assistant slapping Jennifer (before she jumped on the table to fight her).

    With Rihanna, it should be no surprise that her and Chris are back together. Didn’t we all watch her interview with Oprah, when she bared her soul and said she still loved Chris? If people would read Rihanna’s interviews, this wouldn’t be shocking. Every time she’s asked about the incident, she gets defensive and talks in circles. (Call me what you want, but I believe it was a two-way fight.)

    I’m a Rihanna fan, and there’s so much more about her, besides her being with Chris, that doesn’t make her role model. Her “I don’t care” attitude, song lyrics and scantily clad photos.

    And I don’t even know why Evelyn has fans to begin with. Also, we have to stop standing up for causes and not knowing our target. If you want to take a stand against domestic violence, that can be done without involving Rihanna and Evelyn.

  • Gina

    Let them live their own lives and make mistakes.
    It is ultimately the choice of both parties.

    All you can do is wish them the best because it really is ‘their bidness’

  • myblackfriendsays

    It is not Rihanna nor Evelyn’s responsibility to make their decisions based on what everyone else is going to think. If you have a problem with their choices, then take the time talk to some impressionable young people in your life about why you think hitting people you love/going back with someone who hits you is not the right thing to do.

    These women are adults, and are allowed to make their own decisions.

  • http://gravatar.com/jamesfrmphilly jamesfrmphilly

    is ‘role model’ a la carte? be one when you want and not when you don’t?

  • Chillyroad

    Evelyn Lozada is not a victim. I shed zero tears for her.

  • Beautiful Mic

    What message? Money, fame and power over everything!

  • Kacey

    Why do we spend so much time on these bottom dwellers? They clearly deserve each other.

  • Gigi Young

    These couples allegedly getting back together is giving them exactly what they want: attention, press, interest, and *drumroll please* MONEY! Would Rihanna and Chris even be on our radars as large as they are had they not gotten into an altercation that left Rihanna battered? Would Evelyn and Chad be known outside of black blogger circles had he not head-butted her? If anything, their physical altercations just pushed them into the mainstream, which equals attention+money. Think about why Kenya Moore was desperate enough to force a fake relationship on RHOA!

  • Stanley

    Neither the other lady

  • Anthony

    In defense of Rhianna and Evelyn, both of them had their men arrested when they got out of line! They did not take a butt kicking and cringe in the corner. they called the cops and had those guys put in jail and publicly humiliated. those men know that if they step out of line, it is a short trip back to jail, and they will be in trouble because they have prior records. I think women have to give Rhianna and Lozada respect because they used the law to their advantage, and they had men who came more or less came crawling back after being put in check before the whole world.

    In my mind, if these women are assaulted again, they should not be considered stupid, unless they take the abuse without calling the police again. They simply cared for some men who did not deserve their affection.

  • RenJennM

    Are we forgetting that Rihanna is a 24-year-old popstar that sings explicit songs and takes risque photos for album and magazine covers? Point is: she’s a grown young woman, she sings worldly music, and she’s a sexy chick. If she isn’t considered a role model with those traits, why would she be considered a role model when it comes to her love life?

    And Evelyn Lozada? The same woman that fights and cusses out other women on television? Come on now.

    The only (or more accurately, the MAIN) reason why people are fans of Rihanna and Evelyn is because they’re both “bad b*tches”. Chicks want to dress like them, spend money like them, and be shaped like them. If these same chicks want love like Rihanna’s or Evelyn’s, then yes, we have a problem. But the issue of abuse and going back the one’s abuser has long existed before either of those women were even born. There are women in your communities being abused RIGHT NOW, yet some of those women have enough strength to leave and stay away. Maybe more attention needs to be paid to them instead of these celebrities.

    And if you’re scared for the young girls, let me tell you something: that is your shining moment as mom (or dad, or aunt, or sister, or cousin, or grandmother) to step in and school them. Media influences have existed as strong influences for the youth as long media has been available for the public. That’s when it’s the job of the parents, parental figures, coaches, teachers, good neighbors, and good friends to tell these teens that they’re good enough and worth more than whatever they’re putting up with. If you witness a young girl putting up with her boyfriend dogging her, speak up. So, perhaps, one day, before it’s too late, she’ll look at herself (and at Rihanna and Evelyn) and say: “That’s not going to be me.”

  • Child, Please

    It’s a free country, you’re allowed to comment, but I do have to wonder aside from the reason I gave you, why – with all your issues – did you feel the need to comment on a subject you merely couldn’t be bothered with, you know, with all your issues? I also must ask how compassionate of a person you really are to basically belittle the life of someone else – with all your issues – just to not adequately contribute a post about a serious topic, most scrape under the rug – as you have done with all your issues. Or is this just one of your issues: the fact that you have allowed your issues to consume you that you felt trolling a website would give you the much needed attention you want.

    SN: I can’t be the only one who feels this way when someone enters a comment section and posts things similar to this.

  • apple

    rihanna wanna go be stupid with someone who showed no genuine remorse for his action, go ahead, he didn’t beat my (or our) ass.. i had a cousin who decided to go back with her beater boyfriend, shes 6ft under now, you just can’t stop some people.

  • mr.vicious

    Here we go again, these two adults are living their lives according to what they want to do. They look happy to me, I dont know why people assume he is going to kill her this time..smh, the more gruesome a person thinks the more that person will believe it.

    He is happy, she is happy so why shouldnt everybody else be happy about it, besides those living in the past.

  • Joy

    Ain’t nobody’s bizness if they do. LOL LOL

  • Anthony

    Kenya Moore is just trying like hell to still have a career in showbiz!

  • http://gravatar.com/nolakiss16 binks

    Granted that most victims go back to their abusers I am not really surprised by their on again relationships. Personally I do think it sends a bad message but sadly that is not for me to decide.

  • Honest

    We all know a lot some women love the men that allegedly abuse them. But women need to stop bashing BM.

    Ike Turner was on to something.

  • Anthony

    Wow! I am going to remember this post as my daughters get older! RennjennM, that was a heavy dose of common sense!

  • kaybee

    People want these celebs to be super human or something but guess what..THEY’RE REGULAR PPL LIKE THE REST OF US. I don’t think its a good idea but its not my life. Maybe Chris has changed, maybe things will work out, maybe not. Thats life. Whats next?

  • http://twitter.com/Author_JGail J. Gail (@Author_JGail)

    It sends a very bad message, but guess what? There is nothing any of us can do about who these women decide to date/marry/be with. It’s their lives. Some women have to go right through the fire just to realize it’s hot!

    The only thing we CAN do is be good parents, mentors and role models to the kids in our own life to let them know this type of thing (getting head butted and beaten in the head til your black and blue then smiling together in public like nothing ever happened) isn’t normal or healthy relationship behavior. If you remember, Kasandra Perkins was also putting on a smile in pictures not long before she was murdered by her boyfriend. It’s up to us to teach the young ones in our lives the right way to go before they get caught up in a bad cycle.

  • Cia

    Don’t eat the cake Anna Mae!

  • Hmmmmm

    Not surprised by that, seeing you hate black women.

    @Stanley, of course they weren’t. A black woman getting beat down is no one but her fault.

  • Hmmmmm

    Actually, a by stander called the cops on Chris Brown. I have no doubt, if he didn’t leave Rihanna on the side of the road bleeding from her skull, no one outside of her circle would be privy to the abuse.

  • mr.vicious

    I cosign this statement…

  • Anthony

    Hmmmm, that is a fair point. I still think that if Brown has a lick of sense, he won’t hit Rhianna. Heck, if I were him, I would be forever in check out fear of jai, and ruining my career.

    I suspect Johnson and Lozada may be plotting a reality comeback since both could probably use a paycheck.

  • http://gravatar.com/beejcee beejcee

    Rihanna and Chris both grew up in abusive households. Children raised in abused environments don’t use the same rationale as those of us who were not, they have a “different” understanding of the abuse and they also have excuses that they received from both the abuser and the abused. It is not easy for those of us who do not have first hand knowledge. My information regarding this situation comes from my nieces, whose mother, my sister, lived with an abuser until he was good and ready to leave the family.

  • Shell

    if i am looking at Rihanna and Evelyn as examples to follow i have other issues i need to address…

  • Britt

    It’s called Rihanna forgiving Chris and not holding on to bitterness. She’s also taking responsibility for her actions in the relationship. It’s well known in both of their circles that Rihanna use to hit Chris as well.

  • Dafuk

    Not reuniting with the man who left you for dead = bitterness?

    She’s taking responsibility for HER actions. IOW, she asked for a beat down.

    GTFO with that bull shit.

  • Keepitreal

    Quite obviously, most rational thinking adults or even teenagers won’t consider these people role models BUT it’s intellectually dishonest to sit here and pretend millions upon millions of teens, even young adults don’t look up to them.

    It’s nice to say look up to yo parents instead but everyone damn well knows, kids look up to these nimrods. When Rihanna shaved the side of her head, you couldn’t go anywhere in the hood without seeing miles and miles of bald eagles, when that rapping gremlin with the tattoos came out, all of a sudden black youth discovered tats in droves, when that muppet looking Braxton started that .org stupidness even adults started parroting….
    so yes, UNFORTUNATELY these celebrities have an influence.

  • omfg

    one – i prefer not to get up in the lives of other people, esp. those i don’t know. it’s called being a busy body and nosy and gossipy. which leads me to number two.

    two – i’ve found that people are often more nosy than actually truly concerned about other people. i don’t mistake someone’s willingness to comment or express an opinion about rihanna as genuine concern for her life or well-being. some people just like to talk and run their mouths. in this case, some people just like to type a lot of ish.

    three – i’m commenting and saying what i said because my point is you need to mind your own dang business. you know, i’m sure you’ve got issues that you need to work out for yourself rather than sit behind your computer in complete judgment of her. but instead, you and so many other people prefer to focus on other people’s lives. we live in a culture where we no longer respect privacy and where we are used to knowing and having an opinion about everything and everybody. and again, we mistake a willingness to talk about the lives of others as true concern. it is not.

    four – i feel sorry for anyone who follows the path of these people. this is where you (and others) need to understand that her life is not your life. they are not role models. and they are not special. women do this ish all the time. if rihanna chooses to run back to the person that kicked her arse, that’s on her. people need to make their own decisions. there comes a time when people have to save themselves. rihanna and evelyn have to save themselves, if that’s what they feel is needed.

    so, you keep running your mouth. when was the last time you volunteered for a domestic violence organization? when was the last time you donated money? one of charities i donate to is a domestic violence organization.

    my mother was abused (and i grew up around when who were abused). i know what i’m talking about. the women who are in those shelters are there because they got up on their own and decided to make a change.

    are you happy? decided to take a moment from my issues and comment on this. lmao. is that better?

  • Cool Beans

    The message I get is this: That is their life and this is mine. Hell, I can’t get mad that Rihanna get’s to live in that PHAT azz home and I can’t get mad when I see Evelyn on vacation on some island in the middle of December with her family. So how can I be mad at the choices they make regarding THEIR lives?? Like really? They don’t have to answer to me…lol!

  • Tiff

    I haven’t heard the word PHAT since BAPS lol

  • Billy Paul

    Preach, Queen!

    Unfortunately, people rarely want to hear the truth.

  • Billy Paul

    In order to truly understand your argument, please define what a role model is.

  • Billy Paul

    One may argue that the “violence” was a two-way thing. Unfortuntely, most women (i.e. at least 51%) do not condone hitting women for any reason. Be not mislead, this is somewhat erroneous logic.

    It’s called “reciprocity” and can be summarized by this famous rap lyric, “smack me and I’m a smack you back.”

  • Billy Paul

    Oh, it appears that someone is finally learning how the world actually works and is still trying to cling to their initial delusions.

    hahahaaaaa

    Please check back into reality and come down from the mothership.

    hahahahaaaa (my stomach hurts) hahahaaaa

  • Billy Paul

    If one is brave enough to hit a man, then one should be prepared for the consequences, even if said consequences involve overwhelming force. There shall be no double standards in 2013.

    Carry on, Family.

  • Pearlsrevealed

    I am so glad that I came of age in an era where the personal lives of our media icons was not put on blast. These folks are living and loving and messing up just like the rest of us mere mortals. I do not expect a 20 something artist to live for me when my 40 something butt cant keep it together. What pressure!!!!

    So what message does this send…They are human and money and fame don’t give more emotional stability or common sense.

    Man, Diana Ross would have NEVER become “The Boss” if we were aware of and had a platform to be vocal about ALL her dirt.

    What about our beloved soul man Al Green being an abuser. We did not know this fact until his ex and daughter outed him on Oprah in the 90s. Should this truth affect the way we feel about the great music he created?

    Lets get a life and stop psycho-analyzing these flawed yet entertaining people.

  • http://thinkaboutit-knowaboutit.com Dante

    What message are we sending when we forgive Charlie Sheen and reward him with a Comedy Central roast and a new television show, yet we continue to demonize Chris Brown and Chad?

  • hellifiknow

    Total co-sign down to “can’t even get my 40-something but together lol” if my “relationship” was on reality TV, we’d both be famous…

  • p

    @Anthony

    Nah…they dumb.

  • p

    I know its her life but Rihanna sickens me…….

  • Oh

    How in the hell is poor wittle Chris Brown the victim being demonized? His ass is still played on the radio. His ass is invited repeatedly to perform on a family show on one of the three main networks. DWTS His ass is still performing on award shows. And his ass is still winning awards. So how in the hell is this animal being demonized? Oh and not to mention the typical crowd continue to cape for him. Take that they do it too and shove it.

  • http://[email protected] xedos

    the word abuse is been over use. Rihanna and Chris had one fight. so what do you call the women who get hist every day if the breakfast is cold.?

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