See, this is why we can’t rise as a people…

According to Deadline Hollywood, Oxygen Media, the channel that brought us the Bad Girls Club and Eva Marcille’s Girlfriend Confidential LA, recently ordered up another reality special that is sure to raise a few eyebrows.

Aptly titled All My Babies’ Mamas, the one-hour special will follow Atlanta rapper Shawty Lo and his 10 baby mamas. According to reports the show will center around “the complicated lives of one man, his children’s mamas, and their army of children, capturing the highs and lows of this extreme ‘blended family’ as they navigate their financially and emotionally connected lives.”

I just have a few questions:

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  • Who is Shawty Lo and why do we need to see his baby mama drama played out on TV?
  • Why is Oxygen, which once touted Oprah as one of its partners, working on a show that seems more suited for a Love & Hip Hop Atlanta storyline?
  • Who thought ‘All My Baby Mamas’ was a good idea?
  • Why am I glad the show’s producers, Tony DiSanto and Liz Gateley, are not black? (But why am I also horrified they think this is what black audiences want to see?)
  • When are trashy reality shows going to jump the shark?

Help me out, Clutchettes…can someone give me some answers?

[Via The Jasmine Brand]

  • Beautiful Mic

    They might as well legalize polygamy.

    If I get married to a man, have his child and later divorce him, no one better ever refer to me as a d!mn baby momma.

  • Britt

    Shawty Lo was a member of the group D4L who had that song “Laffy Taffy” back in the mid-2000s. Shawty Lo went solo and had a song called “They Know.”

    This show is so not needed. If it were on BET, there would be protests outside Debra Lee’s house.

  • urbanexpressive

    Sigh…. Every time there is progression the powers that be put shows like this on to depict a negative stereotype. Its just disappointing no matter the race at this point (i.e. Honey Booboo). Americans are becoming even more of a laughing stock to the rest of the world. But, if there is any petition out there to get THIS show in particular stopped, sign me up.

  • Tonton Michel

    Aaaaaaaawwwww yeeeeaaahhhh! Now this right here! This show right here! This is ratchetedness at its most finest! Not one, not two, not five or even seven bit ten! Yup you read it right TEN Baby Mammas.that is ten time the fun times ten times the drama equalling 100% pure ratchet. You can’t find quality programing like this anywhere. And who is more qualified than hip-hop after thought former arch rival of T.I. but Shawty Lo. A native if I am not mistaken of the mystical part of Atlanta, Bankhead, where ratchet is in the blood. I can’t wait to watch this.

  • Mademoiselle

    I really wish the politicians of Atlanta and GA had more pride in the city than to let a few bucks blind them to the damage these kinds of shows are doing to the morale of the city. It would be nice for once to read a headline like “Mayor Reed Petitions Oxygen to Cancel ‘All My Babies’ Mamas’” or “Senator Chambliss Asks VH-1 to Take ‘Love and’ Series Elsewhere” or Senator Isakson Writes Bill to End Tax Incentives for Shows Like Bravo’s ‘Real Housewives’ Series” or “Atlanta Residents Start Petition to Stop Allowing Networks to Tape Stereotypical Productions in Their City”… (I guess that last one was more of a call to Atlanta residents to start speaking up for their city, but whatever works…)

  • tash

    WOW…amh REALLY!!

  • tash


  • Treece

    Now this is a damn shame… words. And this channel is marketed as a station for women when all they show is Bad Girls club, Snapped, and now this??? I have to do some research to figure out who the real puppet masters are behind Oxygen…

  • Keepitreal

    OMG, this is so disgusting but what’s even more disgusting is scenarios like this are happening all across America on a smaller scale and this sh** is now normalized. I don’t understand how in this day and age, men and women can run around like un-spayed and un-neutered feral animals.

    I weep for the future generations.

  • Yb

    Where can I sign a petition against this?

  • Beautiful Mic

    poly-matrimony, not polygamy.

    these women seem so complacent with their ‘status’ they should do it for chicken heads like these, for the sake of their kids.

  • ktish

    i gots’ nothing. sorry, ya’ll…

  • Felicity Rhode

    No. Just no. Please don’t let this happen!

  • Sasha

    I am speechless….this is so confusing, upsetting and strange on so many levels….

  • Sammi Ford

    it was too much laffy taffy shaking going on..sheeesh!

  • lauryn

    The real question is, why are there 10 women who participated in intercourse in Shawty Lo???

  • Jackie

    I hate everybody involved. On second thought…let us pray.

  • omfg

    Who is Shawty Lo and why do we need to see his baby mama drama played out on TV?

    someone who made a little MONEY. we need to see this drama because it will make someone/some people MONEY.

    Why is Oxygen, which once touted Oprah as one of its partners, working on a show that seems more suited for a Love & Hip Hop Atlanta storyline?


    Who thought ‘All My Baby Mamas’ was a good idea?

    someone who believes they will make MONEY off of people’s willingness to denigrate themselves and those who like to see people denigrate themselves.

    Why am I glad the show’s producers, Tony DiSanto and Liz Gateley, are not black?

    it would be really sucky to see black people make MONEY off of other black people behaving like lowlifes.

    (But why am I also horrified they think this is what black audiences want to see?)

    it sucks to see that non blacks (and blacks) realize know that there are many ignorant black people who are lacking in pride and dignity; people who will do anything to make MONEY, even if their cut is not all that much. but the notoriety makes up for it. and they know we like a good minstrel show as much as they do.

    When are trashy reality shows going to jump the shark?

    when people don’t make MONEY off of them. so, maybe if people stopped shining light on them, we’d help them dim into non-existence.

    what’s that song? For the Love of Money by The O’Jays…

  • binks

    First the problem is NOT us rising as a people but learning to leave some of us in the gutter…

    I already feel bad for the kids because of johnny appleseed as a father and the women who put themselves in this position. TV and entertainment has become straight trash so I am not surprised someone pitched and “okay” this. And sadly I can picture this show getting massive ratings…smh You can’t claim exploitation on this one if they willingly wants to be exploited. So as Ktish said above…I got nothing but coffee while going *hmm*

  • Oh

    Is it a stereotype when most blacks are born to baby mamas and most baby mamas and baby daddys have children by more than 1 person?

  • EST. 1986

    This guy must be hurting for cash. He had one or two hits and his career was over just like that.

  • A.

    Let my people go.

  • Tim

    I am glad this is coming on. Like it or not that is a pretty accurate portrayal of black ghetto family life. How many articles have we seen black women say a man is not needed in the home and marriage is not important? This show is the end result of that logic and mindset.

    As long as men and women remain silent and black women celebrate baby mama ideology this will continue. “I don’t no man”…. the black community is lost.

  • J. Gail (@Author_JGail)

    None of these women are seen as special or worthy of their own special partner, they just revolve around one silly dude and they seem fine with that. That’s what’s most disturbing to me about these scenarios!

  • iphia.henryIphia

    When will American finally realize that this sort of nonsense and open gutter level ratchetness is making your country a sad punchline and laughing joke to the rest of the world. This is not entertainment; it’s an insult which perpetuates the negative immoral stereotypes of African Americans.

  • Natalie B.

    Those that have no idea that they are in bondage cannot be emancipated….

    We need some type of incentive against ignorance. Ignoring it isn’t working.

  • Alyssa

    the stereotype is the way that these people are portrayed. Not every “baby mama” acts like this, I’m sure.

  • Stanley

    But aren’t you his baby’s mother?

  • dirtychai

    *that sinking feeling when I see how many daughters this fool has

  • Jjean

    Are we forgetting this is the same network that brings us Bad Girls Club?!?..Once you realize that this show shouldn’t come as a surprise…

  • Apple

    Some people should be sterilized

  • Keepitreal

    What the fuck are you talking about? I hardly ever address a “man” pathetic enough to sit his ass on a black woman’s board but I’ll make an exception.

    Yes, there are those who see nothing wrong with the decimation of the 2 parent household.

    But WTF are you acting as if black women came together and willed black men into abandoning their children in droves?

    WTF are you and others acting as if black women are turning down marriage proposals left and right so they can rock as Ms. independent?

    Wait, don’t answer, IDGAF about anything else you have to say.

    The black community will remain lost as long as black men and women continue being sexually irresponsible and black men continue to shirk their financial AND emotional responsibilities to the offsprings they helped create.

  • Kacey

    I feel very sorry for those who live in Atlanta. Through these shows, the media has turned the most prosperous black-majority city in the U.S. into one big trifling ghetto. Sad.

  • Ms. Information

    Ok, so you meet a guy and he tells you that he has 9 baby mamas and you roll with it? Nigga please…sorry, this is super niggerish….standards are set so low…a petition on sounds in order…

  • Tim

    Why exactly are you all mad? This is an accurate portrayal of todays ghetto black family life. The same way Good Times was an accurate portrayal of 70′s black ghetto family life.

    You can’t have it both ways black folks. You can’t glorify or remain silent on black baby mamas, their kids, homes with no black men and the effects this dysfunction has on the black community. Then turn around and get mad when it’s shown to those outside of the community and the world. Now, you all want to hide the end result as if it doesn’t exist? This is not a minority. This is now the majority! 60% of black baby mamas have multiple baby daddies. Get your popcorn ready, sit back and watch the trainwreck. We reap what we sow. I’m sorry to say this but we (the black community) deserves this.

  • Caramel

    O M G! I am speechless. All of those women need healing and therapy. The poor kids, I can only wish they turn out to be wholesome, healthy adults. As for Shawty Real Lo, again, I am speechless!

  • AM

    I have additional questions, and each one needs an answer my dear clutchetts.

    1.) Last I checked, condoms came in all sizes, or almost, no? So why is his pe-nus on overdrive?!
    2.) Birth control is not fullproof, but it has worked in the past, and will continue to do so in the future, no? So what’s the problem here?
    3.) If a dude told you he had 11 kids, with 10 babymamas, ain’t you gon run for the hills, and not look back like Lot’s wife…..coz you know if you does, that’s baby #12?
    4.) If dude’s name is “Shawty Lo”, ain’t that enough to scare you off?
    5.) Who are these people dear Father in heaven, and why are they getting a reality show?


    lmaoooooooooooooooooo Man Oxygen brought us Bad Girls Club so this wouldn’t be a surprise. Atlanta has so many gay niggas, women don’t care how many kids one man has, as long as his dick ain’t been in a man mouth or ass. But the “Baby Mamas” have the self love a Jew having Hitler face tattooed on their chest. After the 3rd bitch that messed with him and realized he had 2 kids already and still decided to let him fuck raw, insert here “Kill yourself” meme. I know the 4th, 5th, and 6th baby mamas and so on, already knew he had too many kids and decided to still let him nutter in their cutter… those bitches are some Laffy Taffy moola hoes. They thought they would get fat child support checks .. NO to those whores lol. Nigga money ain’t long like that. I bet all those bitches probably just get the most 200 to 500 a month. Those tyson chicken farm bitch thought they would get $5000 a month. Bitch that’s Shawty Lo the nigga who puts big ben dye on his beards and hair to the point that nigga looks like he gives heads to old bitchs who dye their pubic hair with color for men. This nigga ain’t no goddamn P.Diddy lol. I bet these bitches getting paid in child support with hot cheetos, fried chicken, 2005 land rovers on E, some food stamps he bought from a crackhead, and a gift card to DSW shoes.

  • Me1987

    I gave you a thumbs up and I am an atheist lol…

  • African Mami

    Hush! What kind of dreaming is this?

  • Pearlsclutched

    F**k raw
    Elevate your language, sis.

  • Keepitreal

    Therein lies the rub.

  • victoria

    Why did he get thumbs downed? Isnt there a difference between being a baby mama and his baby’s mother?

  • victoria

    I weep with you

  • SpkKay

    I have to say that I’m more concerned about his current, 19-year-old girlfriend more than anything else. I mean, it is obvious that she was not provided the proper guidance concerning wise decision making skills and character flaws (red flags) in men. I understand that parents are incapable of forcing their children to make wise decisions or utilize the skills and lessons that were passed down. However, my parents would verbally confirm that I am the fool that I appear to be for even giving a man like this the time of day. There is absolutely no way that a woman in her right mind would even entertain a man with 11 children by 10 different mothers. The aforementioned situation screams commitment issues with Shawty-Lo. In addition, there has to be some sort of disconnect from reality if she is willing to date someone with children her age (he’s old enough to be her father). He is also living in some sort of fantasy world by dating someone young enough to be his child and moving her into the house. Instead of her taking pride in the fact that she is a teen, without children, working towards educational, personal growth, financial, and/or career goals, she’s taking pride in the thought or idea of her being the first one to become his wife, being the leader of his children’s mothers, and being respected and needed by his 11 children. It is absolutely mind boggling knowing that in her 19-year-old mind, she believes that she is a woman and capable of handling such a complex situation. Prayerfully, a determination to acquire something better as far as men are concerned has been ignited within his daughters. In addition, I hope that his sons desire to be more responsible men as well.

  • Christelyn Russell-Karazin

    Exactly, Oh. This mess is THE NORM.

  • kc

    Exactly. Is this what these women want to teach to their daughters?

  • cupcakes and shiraz

    Is there a petition that we can sign against this show?

  • Kaf

    It is so sad and disturbing to see in our world today, people and children don’t need to be watching this. Its should not be glorified that a promiscuous man doesn’t know how to keep it in his pants. Many of the woman of the show you can tell did it for a check or 2 and it so sad that they feel the need to steep that low in order to make it in society. We need to do better, and not put mediocrity on television just for ratings which means more money!!!! For Oxygen to do this is not surprising but it still concerns me that this is the way people want to make money even if its exploiting black people and making us look even worse that we already look to white people. We have come so far and this type of thing is what tends to hold us back!!!

  • Benji

    Is this a show or a documentary? From this preview it doesn’t look like it is going to be a racthett ass mess. Personally I have always wondered about the baby mama life scenario and if this is about a man actually taking care of his kids, taking responsibility and not people fighting and looking for baby daddies and denying children. All over the world there are men that have father multiple children and just choose to deny their existence or don’t even know about them. This is nothing new. It’s not a black thing or white thing or whatever else is out there thing it happens. If it is done well there is nothing wrong with a look into the world of these certain people.

  • kaf

    What???? I got lost in you comment by your obscenity!

  • Señorita

    LOL…I’m sorry Miss Emcee but I really had a hard time understanding what you wrote!!! LOL

    It’s all good though sista! LOL


    lmaooooooooooooo sorry I used a lot slang type language lmaooo I forgot this isn’t a hiphop site or my hiphop friends on facebook. I have to remember clutch is not a hiphop site. I make that mistake sometimes sorry peeps lmaoooooo.


    It’s all good. I need to stop my slang font on here lol. Sometimes i forget about the different ranges of ages and likes on this site. Thanks for the heads up though. Even those he is a rapper doesn’t mean I should use my slang font on the post lmaoooo.

  • Robbie

    I will not watch this mess. I don’t have cable and rarely watch TV. Some people are laughing at it, but let’s be real, how many women are really against being a baby mama? I read some of the comments made by some about Tyra Banks being a baby mama, when it looks like she would love to find real love and settled down with whomever that man is.

    In the black community, it is very common to see these type of behavior. Nowadays too many people blame marriage, when it is the two people getting together that make a mockery out of this holy God institution. The hypocrisy of some of these women here on Clutch are killing me.

  • Robbie

    I have to agree with you Tim. It is happening and I see it all the time where I live.
    Forget about giving our children strong foundation for themselves. It is all about the baby mamas.

    They are glorified in so many TV programs today that those that want to do the right thing, and settled with a man that values the institution of marriage, commitment, and that shares the same value when it comes to education, raising a family etc… are seen as those with the problem because they refuse to live their lives as such. Shrug!

  • Eyes Wide Shut

    Social engineering at its finest.

    What better way to dehumanize/subjugate a people by having them willingly do it themselves?!

    Not even Hitler could have made this s%^t up!

    All the progress made during the Civil Rights Era has been flushed down the toilet loooooong time ago. This show is just the next nail in the coffin.

    Eyes Wide Shut

  • Umm wow

    I’m amazed she’s my age and I couldn’t fathom ever being in this situation. I have to admit many young girls have a romanticized view of older men, but I’ve never seen ANYTHING quite so extreme. This is disturbing and has made me want to reassess my life and thank my parents for instilling values within me to let me never end up like this.

    After watching this video I am genuinely depressed.

  • p

    Look what so called hip hop culture and C-rap music has produced…..along with the silence and cowardice of Blacks, especially Black women….the older ones….Where were you when this cancer(hiphop) started to go south?

  • Liz

    this made me laugh to no end….

  • The Comment

    Maybe he is an African King.

  • Tim


    They knew he was a multiple baby daddy bum before they laid down with him. Women have complete 100% control over their reproduction pre and post pregnancy yet refuse to accept the responsiblity that goes along with that control. Black women want the sexual and reproductive rights that feminist have won yet still want to blame the black man for her pregnancy. Example: These UNMARRIED black women have premarital sex and then run down to the abortion clinic (if the guy is broke, ugly or she doesn’t like him) but then turn around and blame her OTHER pregnancies/kids on the black man (if the guy is good looking, a baller or she likes him)!!! She wants to phuck who and when she wants, abort the pregnancies she doesn’t want and then blame (black man) for the pregnancies/kids she keeps!!!! Do you know how stupid you all sound?

    White feminist would laugh in your face if you got up in front of them and said the reason I’m pregnant is because he didn’t use a condom. :-( What’s even worst is you have educated black women who actually do protect their themselves (their life, body & future) yet still embrace the “He should have used a condom” excuse. This is why White Feminist really don’t respect black women, as a group, nor look at you all as equals and reject your life style

  • The Comment

    I’m not glad it is coming on but…I have one uncle who has numerous baby mamas and he ugly as hell. And this is common. I don’t care how much money you make, if you are black the statistics dictate that you are less than 2 degrees separation from a family member that is ghetto aka live the life of crime.

  • YeahRight2011

    “For Oxygen to do this is not surprising but it still concerns me that this is the way people want to make money even if its exploiting black people and making us look even worse that we already look to white people.”

    All they can do is cut a check. Black people don’t have to cash it. We have to stop acting like black people (us) don’t have a capacity for greed.

    PS: Whites had a low opinion of blacks when black were building schools, businesses, getting married, and supporting themselves. The’lly always have an excuse so why make their opinion a priority?

  • DownSouth Transplant

    Dang Emcee, some rhyme you got to convey your displeasure with Shawty et al LOL

  • Do better

    The girlfriend looks dead behind the eyes. Must come from a really horrific background if she thinks it’s wonderful being in such a sad and embarrassing situation.

  • Tim


    There’s a shortage of black men for women in their 30′s and 40′s+. This notion that there is a shortage of black men for young black women on their 20′s, average to attractive, friendly, physically fit black women who takes care of herself is a lie.

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  • Tim


    They knew he was a multiple baby daddy bum before they laid down with him. Women have complete 100% control over their reproduction pre and post pregnancy yet refuse to accept the responsiblity that goes along with that control. Black women want the sexual and reproductive rights that feminist have won yet still want to blame the black man for her pregnancy. Example: These UNMARRIED black women have premarital sex and then run down to the abortion clinic (if the guy is broke, ugly or she doesn’t like him) but then turn around and blame her OTHER pregnancies/kids on the black man (if the guy is good looking, a baller or she likes him)!!! She wants to phowck who and when she wants, abort the pregnancies she doesn’t want and then blame (black man) for the pregnancies/kids she keeps!!!! Do you know how stupid you all sound?

    White feminist would laugh in your face if you got up in front of them and said the reason I’m pregnant is because he didn’t use a condom. :-( What’s even worst is you have educated black women who actually do protect their themselves (their life, body & future) yet still embrace the “He should have used a condom” excuse. This is why White Feminist really don’t respect black women, as a group, nor look at you all as equals and reject your life style

  • The Comment

    Standing ovation!

  • Liz

    Look, he probably has a few dollars left from his days as a… musician. He gets to fuck the PYT and he pays her “bills” or buys her Gucci bags. She has low self-esteem and while that’s sad… she knows what she’s doing. I’m just mad that it isn’t with a higher caliber…person. She knows what she’s doing.

  • The Comment

    I agree 100%. But DSW has a great selection of shoes.

  • LemonNLime

    My parent’s have told me about a time when people used to be ashamed of their actions rather than parading the foolishness and being proud of it. Wonder what that is like because I have NEVER seen that.

  • African Mami

    LMAO! Stop the madness.

    An African KING would NOT need a reality show to pay for child support no way, no how. That’s embarrasing. I don’t know how this shawrrry low man is even able to walk around talking bout he got 100 plus baby mammas.

  • Kacey

    Can someone please provide a translation of this. I failed Ebonics, Blackanese and Negroidian in High School.

  • thinkpink

    @tim white people have their cake and eat it too all the time. I am one of the few that doesn’t have a problem with this show the same way I don’t have a problem with rap. The issue is that the media depicts all 10 million blacks as being this way when this is untrue. It’s cool show the baby mamas but also show the married blacks, the ones in college, make a show about black people going to church. Blacks have varied life experiences the same way whites do. The show their varied experiences and make it look like we only have one. When one race is depicted as being monolithic it’s called AGENDA PUSHING and blacks don’t set the agenda my dear. I won’t even get into why blacks are more likely to have kids out of wedlock because anyone with half a brain knows about how the welfare act orchestrated that. We didn’t get the chance to sow a dang thing in this country. We were created to be what white people wanted us to be through power, politics and policy. We reaped what they sowed for us. No race would voluntarily do this to themselves.

    Nothing frustrates me more when blacks say we did this to ourselves. It demonstrates laziness and shows that you haven’t researched the making of black people in America. I would be glad to point you to reputable sources at any time.

  • leelah

    did anybody else notice that at least 4 of those girls said they started dating him when they were 17 or 18?

  • leelah

    I think he preys on young girls, especially ones from troubled homes. That way he gets them young, fresh, and dumb. Plus he gets to be their savior, who shows them a better lifestyle. I noticed several of those girls mentioned they met him at 17 or 18. The hood is exploding with these aging perverts. I use to live in Dallas and we couldn’t walk down the street at 12 or 13 without some fully grown man trying to pick us up, with carseats and kids in the backseat. I’ll always live in the suburbs because I don’t want my daughter to go through that, as a young developing woman. I want her to go through puberty in a safe positive way, turning the heads of her peers and not their cheating fathers or nasty uncles.—sorry I had a little flashback!!

  • leelah

    rap music started going south(I assume u mean bad, not geographically south) with gangster rap. I remember black preachers calling for boycotts. I even remember seeing public protest with protesters breaking cds and running them over. I think we need to see parents doing some of that again. If parents confiscated their kids music some of those kids would probably stop buying it.—I had a gorilla style idea to dampen violent raps sell numbers. If as a group, we could target the most offensive artists. Then go into stores take their cds and hide them behind other unpopular cds, we could make sure they aren’t on the shelves to be sold. It could take target or walmart weeks, maybe months to find those cds, but by then its old merchandise and the first weeks sales would be affected. Also we need to demand positive websites feature or advertise positive performers. –my point is that in order for rap music to become more positive we have to get a little more militant about change.

  • Pretend you do not see it

    Get mad all you want. But this is the reality of black community. It’s messed up how it is being thrown out there for the world to see. But its not like it was a secret anyway. People know about this crap. Pretending it does not exist does not make it disappear.

  • Pretend you do not see it

    His taste for women is ….

  • Dawn

    time to boycott the ratchett

  • Ekuba

    You’re so ignorant. Here’s a tip, buy a plane ticket (if you can afford it), come to Africa and see how real Kings live. They do not degrade themselves to this point and African women also do not degrade themselves to this extent- living in some kind of harem with a man who hasn’t even married you.


    Not a rhyme lmaoo but, I did channel my Ghostface killah though lol.


    I forgot this site is full of a lot of uptight women who will get offended too easily lmaooo. Hell, my comment and the use of profanity, is nothing compared to the coonery, this show and others like it. Everything I said was true but, just too blunt for some on this lil website lol. All the things you typed is what the show is about lol. The females are being treated like a dog. All of them act like Niggas. They wouldn’t be in this situation if they didn’t fuck raw lol. So, your problem is? If its too vulgar sorry but, hell creating kids with a crappy future is vulgar too. I’m pretty sure this cycle with continue with their offspring. The boys will have no respect for women and the girls will think, being a baby mama to a whack rapper, is a good future. When this type of sambooish things occur, I cannot and will not call these tap dancing reality fools men or women. They don’t deserve that respect since, they already disrespected themselves.

  • victoria


    I do agree that no one should expect another person to protect them from diseases and unwanted pregnancies. I also dont understand why so many women are having children by men who are unable and/or unwillingly to provide financial and moral stability, protection, family values, etc. However, can you explain why so many men have kids oow? If men are MEN- the providers, the protectors, the head of the household – why are so many black men not taking on these roles? You claim that white feminists are laughing at black women; well, the world is laughing at bm. Many are seen as weak, poor fathers, not willing to work hard, prone to crime, etc. Although, I agree with some of your points, you fail to see how bm are equally to blame.

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  • Tim


    Those are learned behaviors. Who taught him how to be a man? It’s he suppose to learn by osmosis? If a boy grows up seeing 3+ men in his mamas bed, bunch of female relatives and women in the community with multiple baby daddies and bums in the community respected he thinks this is a man and how women are suppose to be treated.

  • Chillyroad


    I must agree and disagree with your analysis. Absent black fathers are absent because that’s the type of father they choose to be. Likewise these feral baby mamas are feral baby mamas because they choose to be. The culture they both grew up in accepts it. There are NO social consequences. You may get a reality show. Also there is no real incentive to mate with a provider type because Mr.Charlie is a not far away.

  • Chillyroad


    Your criticisms of Tim’s comment misses one huge reality that exists outside the Western world: unmarried mothers are shunned at best and even killed in so many many parts of the world. The world isn’t laughing at black men because women/girls who have sex unmarried take total blame and could lose their lives, dishonour their families and be shunned for the rest of their lives or forced to marry to save face. Men who impregnate or even rape these women/girls go about their lives. Consider yourself lucky to live in a modern society.

  • shlbshl

    Yes. It made me wonder what the age of consent is in GA.

    The two “blondes” in particular said that they became involved with him when they were 17. And this is just what they were willing to admit publicly.

    This man is a scourge who, in all likelihood, preys on at-risk pubescent girls.

  • Congocapanilo

    Which segment of the black community? Quit generalizing all blacks and limiting everyone to one lifestyle, a lifestyle/sub-culture that needs fixing.

    Attention does not need to be brought to it in this way, it’s exploitative. This particular issue within the black demographic needs to be repaired, and brought to light in a way that says “this is not ok” and that it is not conducive to properly preserving the black family structure, community, accountability, maturity and character.

  • Beautiful Mic

    This is a prime example of how drug trafficking, the perpetuation of prison/gang culture, and cointelpro has evolve a degenerate segment within the black populace.

    To put it on t.v. in this form does not help us as blacks, it doesn’t even help the people involved if you look at the bigger picture beyond the fame and money.

    The perpetuation of materialism is part of the problem, here. This right here is also a result of mass marketing of materialism to black youth spanning over 15 years. In addition to that, now it’s being promoted that its ok to become famous and profit, through exploitation, from one’s dysfunction. People’s dysfunction is supposed to be funny, but these shows desensitize the public in the same way highly violent media does. It promotes less humanity and more objectification of others misfortune, pain, etc… What’s even worse is that these shows promote that it is ok that people objectify themselves.

  • Kam

    An online petition probably won’t do much, however emails to Oxygen might get noticed. You can contact them here:

  • nona

    Is this show going to need subtitles for the butchering of English, à la Honey Boo Boo?

  • victoria

    So if these boys see this learned behavior, isnt it the same for girls. Dont they also view this learned behavior. Which will mean both black boys and black girls see this poor behavior; yet, you want black women (who were once these girls) to do the right thing. You want the women to take control; change this learned/ poor behavior; fix our community. I think that proves the point I stated in the earlier comment about black men being viewed as weak. If men are suppose to take charge, why arent the men in our community turning this poor behavior around? Why do men expect only women to do it? Tim, Im an African American woman married and living in Europe. Europe may be liberal, but they hold strong to many values. One being men handle their business which includes working hard and providing for their family. The men dont expect women to do their (the men’s) job. It’s quite sad that so many black men cant do the same. Yet, expect black women to do so.
    And FYI, Im very pro 2 parent households. Im hold traditional values concerning family and my household. So I dont condone baby mama or daddy foolishness.

  • victoria

    Like you, I dont live in the USA. I am American expat. Not sure if you are American?? However, I disagree concerning black men. Thanks to rap videos, NatGeo, and BBC documentaries black men are seen quite poorly. Due to the prison documentaries on NatGeo, I have been asked on more than one occassion why so many black and Mexican men are in prison. Thank God, The Oxygen channel is not across the pond; otherwise, a show like this will further show black men in a poor light. Regardless, black men in American are viewed negatively. Just like black boys where you are, in the UK. Many black boys in the UK are baby daddies, too. Killing each other, too.

  • pinklipstick227

    I’m so over this ratchet narrative. When am I going to see a reality tv show that represents my reality?

  • Keepitreal

    I can’t argue with you there. This man sharing/multiple “babies’ daddies” is sadly the reality. What’s even sadder is we were warned and instead of taking heed, played the denial game, did the usual “but they do it too”, questioned the legitimacy of the stats, called it a conspiracy… forward to where we are now, at a 72 Percent & rising out of wedlock rate.

    I hate to say it but outside of a black cultural revolution I don’t see this changing for the better.

  • msafropolitan

    No he is an American rapper.

    An African king will never have Shawty Lo as a name. African ‘kings’ will marry the women, give their own houses and not try to air his dirt and foolery on national TV to make money.

  • Sweetles

    Are you all really surprised that this is becoming a reality show? For years trashy reality shows featuring black people have won record ratings, and have been getting more and more outrageous. This time they turned it up a notch. I am shocked that a show featuring “baby mamas” hasn’t debuted sooner. So glad I stopped subscribing to cable years ago.

  • The Comment

    Come on African Mami…….I know you know me well enough to take it as a joke. Dude is faaaaar from a king.

  • The Comment


    I can tell that X-Mas was not good to many of you (except African Mami) Jesus people…..can u take a joke? No. That’s why you walk around looking like damnit I’ll bite you cause you can’t laugh @ chit. Mean muggin’ cause you mad @ errrrrrrrything.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH! Like Yo Gabba Gabba says…

    Try it
    You’ll like it
    Try it
    You’ll like it

  • Tim

    There are 40 million blacks in this country. Slavery and black illegitmacy are not connected. from the end of slavery until 1920 the black out-of-wedlock birth ratio was about 10 percent. From 1920 until 1960 (40 Years) this ratio went up to 20 percent. In 1970, (10 years) the ratio went up 18% to 38 percent. In 1980, (10 years) it went up another 17% to 55 percent. In 1990, it was 67. Today it’s 72%+.

    There is much historical documented data that shows the black man didn’t always abandon the the black woman. As a matter of fact, there were some decades between 1900 to 1960 that show the black woman married at a higher percentage than white women. We also know that up until 1960 almost every black kid had a father in the home.These are facts not pie in the sky revisionist history. What happened to the black man and the black family? Social engineering of white liberals. I suggest you read an article 40 years if lies. The black family.

  • Tim


    I believe a man is responsible for his kids, however, don’t expect a bum to be a responsible adult. It’s just not going to happen.

    The difference is the mother is there in the home to teach the girl how to be a woman. There is no man in the home to teach the boy. He must learn on his own. Women decide who she will have sex and a baby with. The man decides who he will marry. Why have sex and a baby with a bum! A man who has not made a commitment to you ie marriage.

  • The Comment

    Of course it is exploitative….it’s tv. You want it to be educational. Well it is to a point. Use a condom and pray to God that you don’t end up like one of these women.

    What do you mean what segment of the black community???? I didn’t read where @ Pretend was generalizing. If anything you generalized their statement and reduced it down to something simple.

    Maybe your family is all that but I’d be a fool not to acknowledge my entire family who fits this profile. I have got a dozen cousins on crack, a couple of ex prostitute aunties and an uncle (who is hella ugly) with numerous baby mamas, who by the way are also in and out of jail.

    I have two cousins with law degrees and a one who is a connoisseur of wooden boats made by hand.

    Reality TV does not care if your ethnic group is on the brink of extinction. Ratings dictate how gutter producers will go to earn a buck.

    It is only going to get worse. Jumping on someone for telling the truth is not going in the right direction.

  • The Comment

    I envy you….all that money you save a year. Pisses me off that today’s tv’s won’t power up unless you have cable.

  • Sweetles

    Lol!!!! Where have you been? Haven’t seen you around these parts lately…

  • Tim


    I replied it went to the end.

  • GlowBelle

    Just so damn disgraceful that I’m just SICK from looking at the picture.

    I’m EXHAUSTED over the idea of the baby mama being thought of as cute. This shit ain’t cute. Having 10 baby mama’s, breeding with a man who has 10 baby mamas, acting all of this out on TV like its normal and okay…the shit ain’t cute and I’m tired of people acting like it is and profiting off it. Is nobody thinking of the children in this situation??? No, because the all mighty dollar and his peen is doing all the talking, and I guess it’s encrusted in glitter, gold and diamonds because these silly, misguided women who have zero respect for themselves are flocking to it for some bizarre reason. Even though they are also a part of this crappy cycle and are allowing it to go on, I can’t totally blame the women all fully, because they were probably impressionable to this fool’s “charms” and wallet, and no doubt jumped in thinking they had no other options. Now that’s the kind of thing that needs to be addressed—this fool luring very young women and these women who need better support systems to their self-esteem. …and look how many daughters he has! I weep and fear for the “wisdom” that they are passing onto them, and the same can be said for the sons.

    There seriously needs to be a national outcry for this kind of foolishness. I mean, a lot of us complained so hard about ‘The Help’…but that was mere kittens compared to this. Now THIS is the kind of horrible stereotypical media portrayal that needs to be put on blast for all to see and sadly, I have a feeling after this we’re going to be silent about and allow Oxygen to air this crap. I signed the petition and I’m going to write to Oxygen because I’m not about to embrace this mess for another minute.

  • Mademoiselle

    Basic channels (CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, CW) work on today’s TVs without cable. Just plug an antenna into it, and voila! Non-cable television.

  • KIR

    40 years OF lies. The black family.

  • Eyes Wide Shut

    Black people across the world – PLEASE WAKE UP!

    We are being forced (on a subliminal level) to go backwards in terms of society and progress. These negative (and disastrous) portrayal of blacks are not only aired in the US but are beamed and streamed across the world! We need to get our communities and our families in order. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. Yes there are “baby mommas”, “thugs”, “tip drills”, etc. in all races and cultures but who is it that is put on full blast in the media?????????

    Think, think, think!

    During the Civil Rights Era, Apartheid, Jim Crow, etc, etc, etc, our brothers and sisters fought and died trying to make those in power not only treat us better, but portray us as human beings in the media. Now look where we are at now!!!!!!!

    As I said in an earlier post – Hitler couldn’t even dream of this. He is in Hell thinking “Damn, I wish I thought of this! Who knew it would be this easy?!” Yeah I said it. After Europe fell, and if the Final Solution was finished – who do you think was next on the Fuhrer’s chopping block???? And don’t think for a minute our country wouldn’t have thrown us under the bus to this monster if it meant a lucrative business for those in power.

    We as a people are WILLINGLY doing the job of the KKK, Nazis, etc. and they don’t even have to lift a damn finger!!!!

    And due to globalization, these disgusting media images of blacks are being embraced by immigrants coming to America. It’s to the point now that Asians, Arabs, Hispanics, etc are disrespecting/exploiting us in our own very neighborhoods!



    Boycott/petition this mess. Rappers rapping garbage, hide their CDs in the stores (like was mentioned in an earlier post). Run them over with your car (CDs and rappers too!). Movies portraying black women as garbage, think of ways to hit the Hollywood in its balls (if we can build engineering marvels such as the pyramids, we can think of ways to b^%ch slap the entertainment industry).

    We have been lulled to sleep with the media, material consumerism, social castes for far too long.

    WAKE UP!

  • mr.vicious

    Your right, those women 10 women dont need to have 1 mans kids.

  • S

    I think it’s crazy for a person to have 10 kids by several partners but it is what it is. It’s reality for a lot of people unfortunately.

  • oops

    Trouble and strife for the King of Swaziland as one of his 13 wives leaves harem over ‘physical and emotional abuse

  • AM

    No offense taken dear, at all. I KNOW!! :)

  • p

    @The Comment
    Please do not get these Africans started with their illusions and delusions.

  • p



  • p


    And the way Blacks look to whites is theeeeeeeeeeeeeeee most important thing ,right? Never mind how Blacks look to each other and their children. Its always about white people

    J******* Christ!!!!

  • Nadell

    This surprises me not one bit! It was bound to happen. We may petition and express our disgust with these reality shows but we sure as heck give them ratings….and this is why it is being done.
    I’m just waiting for spinoffs of this show. Lil Wayne, Terrell Owens and Bobby Brown I’m sure will be next in line…

  • Rosey

    Now… I’ve been guilty of watching Real Housewives but this is a new low. I’ve worked in prosecuting child support cases and sadly there are many men like this out there.

    How can one of the mothers say Shawty Lo is a good father and he didn’t even go to his children’s graduation? Like really!

  • Mademoiselle

    This may be the first time I’ve given @shawty a thumbs up. In truth, I do believe that some women who are popping out babies for men that are SO CLEARLY worthless do it because that’s all they aspire to be: a baby mama. If marriage to a non-whore was so important to them, what’s mama #3′s, 4′s, 5′s, 6′s, 7′s, 8′s, 9′s, and 10′s reason for joining this compound of concubines?

    Still, I’m not trying to see this hit the airwaves, so I’m hoping (and signing petitions) for it to get canned.

  • Chillyroad


    I understand that part but you were specifically discussing issues to do with fathering children outside of marriage and it is almost always the woman who takes the brunt of the criticism.

    In terms of socio economics yes black men are seen negatively but they are a step above Muslim men specifically Brits of South Asian descent. Because of the number of West Africans like Nigerians and Ghanains not all black men are viewed negatively. In the UK Muslims are viewed the worst for different reasons.

    I am an American expat.

  • Chillyroad

    People in the rest of the world have no room to talk. If they feel that strongly about it they can stop using our IPhones and other technology, stop listening to our music watching our movies wearing our clothes talking like us and taking our foreign aid.

  • emme

    Why would you want to admit to the world that you are one of ten baby mamas? The first chick…okay…even the second one gets a pass…but somewhere down the line around baby mama number 5 or 6 they had to ask “so how many baby mamas you got?”

  • Liyah D.

    LOL!!!! I had a coughing fit after i read your comment! I also thought the same thing: “How did he get any of them?”

  • Elaine

    Sorry Mademoiselle, you’re wrong. It probably depends on where your location is, but where I live you need a cable box to watch TV. We got rid of cable for awhile to save some money, but even with an antenna, the reception of the basic channels was horrendous.

  • C

    Basic channels and Hulu (or Netflix). I’d be doing that myself if I didn’t live with someone who just HAD to have cable because he likes sports so much. Well, plus we tried that no-cable thing for a week and the antennae kept losing a signal. It was so annoying.

  • The Comment

    @ Sweetles…Miss u too…getting ready for grad school fall ’13, learning how to be a patient mother to my 3 yr old son and I am so happy to say….have finally FINALLY forgiven all those who have done me hella’ wrong and wished to see me fat and homeless. (bytches iz evil I tell u)

    How r U? Happy New Year. Happy New Year and Happy New Year!!!!!!!! Take care and be safe.

    @ Mademoiselle….I wish….my big ole 1 ton big screen says…hells no…channel what? u wanna watch what?

  • Kay

    This is….absolute foolishness. There is so much fail to go around I don’t even know where to begin. These women….what the heck is wrong with them? I wouldn’t even talk to a guy that had TWO baby mamas, let alone TEN!!! If a guy was like “Yeah, I got like eight baby mamas…,” he’d see nothing but smoke as my feet blazed a trail to the door. And this rapper, Shawty Lo or whatever the heck his name is needs CONDOMS,or possibly a vasectomy, and also an annual HIV test. These poor children are learning all kinds of irresponsible behavior from these people. And on top of that they are going to be exploited. And this show will be streamed to places all over the world to people who have no idea or clue about the social structure of the US and about American Black people. All they will see is this mess.

    And then an entire generation of people will begin thinking this kind of behavior is cute. We’ve grown so apathetic that no one really raises a stink anymore about this kind of craziness. It saddens me about how long our people have marched only for current generations to sit back and think we’ve made it. We haven’t. We have a long way to go, and if we keep accepting this trash, it will keep happening.

  • Kay

    You know, I usually don’t agree with some of the things you say, but on this, I don’t disagree with the sentiment that we have to teach responsibility! Marriage may not be for everyone, but we have to be responsible sexually! And we wonder why Black women are the largest and fastest growing group being diagnosed with HIV. Black women are DYING because folks don’t want to either wrap it up or zip it up. At the same time, I have to get angry with how lazy we’ve become. We need to get angry when they start taking away the health clinics that give out condoms to these misguided men and women, that teach the basics about sex education, that give free or low cost STI screenings.

    We need to be marching when they do this crap, but we don’t. The powers that be don’t want us to be educated about our sexual practices, and we are LETTING them make this generation willfully blind. We need to go into our communities and start teaching and then mobilize and go out and tell these big bureaucrat douches that we will not allow them to exploit us.

  • Kay

    I completely agree! I’m sitting here wondering why this girl’s mother, father or someone didn’t tell her to stay as far away from this man as possible. I could even understand the whole adventurous older man thing. I’ve known a few co-eds back in college who have had an affair with an older, worldly and erudite man who was monied, unmarried, but had no children. Their affairs became nothing more than fodder for late night cocktails and “when we were young,” tales. But this girl is talking about taking control of an entire harem (yes y’all, this is a damn harem) of women and 11 children to boot! She should be running for the hills! This is teaching their children that a) women are objects to be desired, used, then discarded, b) there is nothing more to life than getting pregnant by a two-bit rapper. *smdh*

  • Hush

    Silence ignerella!

  • tellmesumtingood
  • mypointiz…

    Hate to bust your bubble, but black women’s cases in hiv is lowering. Google it :)

    Black men and gay men are at the top.

    See, black women have been doing what they can to make some changes, since people like you are so comfy in touting that tired stat.

    So what now?

  • Ms. I-Jay

    Remember that these 10 women got pregnant for Shawty Lo. Lord knows how many women actually had intercourse with him and (luckily) escaped being inseminated by this irresponsible creature.

  • Shelly

    Please sign this petition.

    To address the author’s comments, I am actually more mad that it is white people profiting off this mess. If we are going to act like buffoons, can’t we for once profit off it? They STAY making money off us. And “who thought [this] was a good idea?” Of course they thought it was a great idea…look at all the other ignorant black shows that are popular. If this actually airs, people are going to watch it and it will probably make a bunch of white folks somewhere rich just like RHOA and Love n Hip Hop have. I was on a blog earlier and while folks acknowledged that the show was “ratchet,” they said they would still watch it. Sometimes I truely weep for our race.

  • Sweetles

    @ The Comment

    Happy New Year to you too!!!!! I am glad to know you are doing well. As for me, I am loving life, and looking forward to loving it even more in 2013!

    P.S I know all about the drama with 3 year olds, I have one myself!

  • PJ

    That’s a good point. When it was the Italians vs Jersey Shore at least it was other Italians who were profiting off of the idea (I think the shows producer or creator was Italian). They also made sure that in the show the kids had different dimensions in stable relationships and loving each other like family during Sunday dinner instead of just displaying their rachetosity. When I think of the people at Oxygen I think of the red haired executive on Bamboozled. He just wanted to make the blacks look as bad as possible while racking up those $$. I signed the petition and hope more black people will too.

  • dbsm

    miss emcee you held it down. people on here be trippin. but don’t talk about DSW like that again…

  • The Comment


    These chicks are not uptight….They young and ignent. Getting all upset by the profanity u use as if they never gave head to a dude that talk that way all day everyday. I’m n your corner.

  • The Comment

    Maybe cause their mothers are baby mama’s too and see nothing wrong with how they are living.

  • Shell

    White people love this stuff. Thats why the people over at Oxygen are even making it. Doesnt matter how many petitions are written and signed, money talks….After the show airs old white women are going to be coming up at work talking about the “Shortie Show” with all his “baby mommas”……

  • AM

    LOL!!! :)

    I second the corner.

  • Someone that doesn’t want this on the air

    “Protest schemes that don’t cost the participants any inconvenience, hardship or money remain the most popular, despite their ineffectiveness.”

    The best way to make sure crap like this doesn’t stay on is to hit them in their wallets. You want to help Oxygen NOT make money off of this sideshow? Send an e-mail to Oxygen; don’t watch the show (legally or illegally); if anyone here lives near the studios, protest the content; go to DiGa (the production studio making this garbage) and peacefully protest this show.

    It’s easy to write online petitions but if you want this off the air, would you be willing to do these things?

    Make your voice be heard.

  • Blue

    If we stop watching this foolishness, they’ll stop showing this foolishness. Not only on Oxygen, but all other networks that promote bad behavior & crappy lifestyles.

  • Wanda

    Reality television has done more to damage how we are portrayed and perceived than any other form of media ever developed. It is FAR worse than the rap videos.

    To see us on tv constantly scratching, yelling, screaming, arguing, punching and weave-pulling on multiple shows is far worse than what we dealt with in the past during the Stepin Fetchit and Amos N Andy days.

  • hmmmmm

    “Why is Oxygen, which once touted Oprah as one of its partners, working on a show that seems more suited for a Love & Hip Hop Atlanta storyline?”

    Well, do you have an answer to the most important question you asked yet.

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