Gay Isn’t The New Black

by Yesha Callahan

gay is the new black

I remember watching a gay rights activist on a television interview discussing the importance of “natural alliances” in the struggle for equality. He stated that “African-Americans” were a “natural ally” for gay people as a result of the similarities in our shared experiences. I also remember thinking to myself, “Good luck with that one.”

While Blacks and homosexuals have clearly endured similar injustices and encountered innumerable expressions of hatred and disregard, there is a human tendency, in my opinion, to place one’s own plight and the plight of one’s own people above that of any other group, particularly when the plight has been particularly horrible.

Of course, things get complicated when speaking of people who belong to more than one historically oppressed group (i.e. Black women, gay Blacks, Sammy Davis, Jr., and so forth); however, even under those circumstances one group tends to insist that the individual choose a side, as it were. And what about those sides? Why must we assume that gay people aren’t racist? There are non-black gay people who could careless or want to be bothered by the same struggles their black “counterparts” go through.

In an article for the New York Daily News entitled “Gay Really is the New Black,”  John McWhorter discusses homophobia in the Black community in particular and outlines how Blacks can and should participate in the struggle for gay rights.

He states, “One way we will know black America has fulfilled its responsibility in keeping the struggle alive for others is when (celebrity) figures … can own up to themselves in public — and their fellow black Americans are okay with it.”

He was speaking, specifically, of three unnamed, supposedly “closeted” Black celebrities, insisting that Wanda Sykes, Don Lemon, and Frank Ocean are simply not famous enough for their comings out to be impactful.

While I do agree that Black people should be empathetic to our gay brethren and should participate in the struggle, I believe that Mr. McWhorter makes a pretty weak argument. As much as I wish that Mr. Mother Dear and the chubby cover girl would proclaim their obvious sexual preferences from the mountaintops, we need to stop looking to celebrities for cues about what is right and wrong. Black people need to think critically and be reasonable about the topic.

We need to recognize that, although we built this country, we are still treated as unwelcome guests and that feels pretty awful. Well, guess what: gay people get treated the same way, and it feels pretty shitty to them, too. We need to stop hollering about “sin” and other nonsense. If you’re a believer, that will all work itself out, and judge not yada yada yada.

 So, what do you think? Do we as Black people have a “responsibility” to participate in the struggle for gay rights, or are the differences in our histories too great to put that expectation upon us?

  • apple

    this sh*t! i’m so sick of gay people, well gay white males saying gay is the NEW BLACK.. no its not. .. never was …never gonna be ! it doesn’t have the history nor the same weight..every one knows when your of a race when they see you, but no one has to know your gay, you can “pass” freely keeping your discriminative portion of you hidden while we can never ever do that..and what about gay black people, what are they? the new double black?? why don’t people ever say gay is the new jew ? or the new hispanic??
    and don’t get me started on how the gay community treats blacks and asian gays… JUST STOP IT!
    i’m not your damn measuring stick for struggle and even if i was , YOU MEASURED WRONG

  • Orange Starr Happy Hunting

    It certainly isn’t.

  • Keshia

    I hate this stupid saying. No where in the bible is being black a sin..being gay on the other hand is. There rich gay white men who are racist against black people, I’m sorry but I have no sympathy. Just because I’m black does mean I should extra sensitive to the “gay struggle”. Their are more positive images of gay people in the media than blacks. So no gay is not the new black, and any gay black person wearing this shirt needs to have a strong seat…because there are white gay people who don’t give a damn about your black struggle.

  • Ange B

    I agree with the title of this article Gay is NOT the new Black. That is implying that Black people are all fine and dandy and that we as a people have nothing to fight for and that is simply not true. And what about those individuals who happen to be both Black and gay? There are many struggles for acceptance and freedom etc why do any of them have to be the new anything? Are they not all fighting for something similar? A voice? Freedom? Acceptance? Acknowledgement? I think that if you feel the need to help out different movements you believe in by all means go ahead but I don’t like the idea of a new struggle replacing an older one when the other one still has active members working on it.

  • http://www.myblackfriendsays.com myblackfriendsays

    It is always dangerous to align your struggle with another struggle. You always know more about your own, and it is easy to think you know what another group is going through, when you really don’t.

    I am all for people recognizing the similarities in the different types of oppression, but I think it is also important to “stay in your lane” as they say.

  • http://www.myblackfriendsays.com myblackfriendsays

    To be fair, at least one of the men in the picture above is black. It is not as presumptuous for a black man to wear that shirt, because he has lived both experiences (black man and gay man.)

  • I got sense!

    Clutch can go ahead and close the comments section after this comment by apple because he/she said it all. I agree 1000000%

  • http://gravatar.com/deechagirl mypointiz…

    With all the racist white twinks in my area that try to talk like stereotypical black women, there’s no hay in hell our struggles are the same.

    White gays have an issue with this, since they feel like they’re oppressed. Putting biracial man in office done some folks go crazy. LOL!

  • http://www.urbanexpressive.com J. Nicole

    I’m an ally for LGBT rights, but that has nothing to do with being black. The truth is, the face of gays in America are the Anderson Coopers-white, financially stable and “passable” as a straight metrosexual male. After that is the power lesbian- think Ellen & Christine Quinn. Blacks & gays should not be juxtaposed in my opinion no more than Blacks & Jews since the discrimination is different. Black racism was an institution to build a country amongst other things. Not saying anyone should, but a person can walk out their house & not immediately be defined as gay or Jewish to avoid discrimination & hatred, not a Black person. Even more, if someone remains in the closet or hides their Jewish identity, history has taught us they did it to “survive”. If when we did it, we’re self-hating cowards! So just to emphasize again I am all for gay rights, but no the struggle is not the same.

  • camille

    Black is actually a curse in the Bible, not a sin. So, you’re right, just not thorough

  • http://www.aworknprogress.com Diana

    I have been thinking on this for awhile because I help do some work on this issue for Black Churches. We see for the first time that white males are experiencing being denied what they believe are their “rights” from their own brethren. And that must hurt. And they soon realize that being “oppressed” ain’t easy. So, is their struggle similar to that of Black folks? Sure in the barest bones, simplest forms, of want something that you believe your nation should give you.

    But as a woman whose mother, aunt and grandmama were present in Selma, Alabama on Bloody Sunday and got their asses beaten, almost killed, and jailed for their inalienable rights – they (well my mama mostly) will side eye the hell out of the pleas that come from the LGBT movement on some ‘your blues ain’t like mine.’

    And from where I sit, another major difference that rankles and annoys is that not only are they strong activists and mobilizers in terms of strength in numbers, but they have the power, prestige and the wealth to influence policy and get things passed in a way that Black folks don’t and may never have.

    So should we “participate” in their struggle? Yes, in theory we should support because our collective liberation and freedom is all tied together whether we like it or not. But when our community is dealing with devastating gun violence in cities like Chicago and New Orleans, incarceration at rapid rates, staggering unemployment numbers, and on, and it seems like no one else will come to our aid, will join our struggle – it gets very difficult to care and be engaged in theirs.

  • camille

    Just a note: although this has been debated for many years, I find it disingenuous to say that being gay or even being Jewish can always be hidden somehow. We all know someone who we know was gay before he or she even thought about havin sex with anyone. And do you think the Gestapo would have taken Woody Allen’s word that he was a gentile? The idea of complete anonymity in these groups is a fallacy

  • silkynaps

    Word. It offends me to the depth of my soul when my race is compared to a lifestyle. The whole notion of it is rather disgusting. Holla at me after you’ve been chained up in a dungeon as a sex slave for 400 years.

  • Sincere

    While the struggles for freedom for Black and Gay people are, by definition, different, they share one MAJOR conponent- OPPRESSION.

    Blacks and Gays are both working to be seen as different aspects of our human, yet treated fairly and held to the same human standard. Much of the strife created in each community comes from being held down or back from opportunities and respects that largely white heterosexual male enjoy.

    Once the collective consciousnesses in each community realizes this, respects our differences and celebrates our similarities , we will each have allied ourselves with an even larger and purposeful force for positive change in our world.

  • ASK_ME

    This is bull. Once gay whites get their “rights” they will cease talking about oppression and go back to being white and privileged.

  • lol

    are you talking about the Mormon Bible or the Christian Bible?

  • geekmommarants

    Gay is not the new black. Gays are organized and now have real power. We blacks not so much. When being correct is humiliating!

  • ?

    @camille OMG! I was just thinking this but wasnt gonna write it. I mean everything down to the knowing a child is gay before they are dating is similiar. Also, people have been beaten up/killed for just seeming gay. It’s not just a matter of being able to “hide” it. Just the perception of being gay can get you killed. Great point.

  • http://gravatar.com/orangestarhappyhunting OSHH

    @ SMH… A sin is any disobedience to the Lord’s Words. By sinning, we transgress His command. An abomination is a sin but it’s not merely disobeying the Lord’s commandment for there is an additional element present. As I wrote before, both actions and people are classified as abomination. However, it is the element of rebellion inherent in abomination, which differentiates it from mere sin. Disobedience or sin does not qualify by itself as rebellion because we sin unknown to us, with our thoughts and with our spirit.( taken from the WORD site)

  • Smilez_920

    Funny you mentioned this. I agree . Gays and Latinos have done a great job these past 2 terms coming together as a collective despite their cultural or social differences to eat their agenda across to the masses and have action be taken. Last weeks post about ” house vs field” all I heard from some where ” we’re not a monolithic group, how are you going to get millions of ppl on the same page” etc.. Well these two group face the same challenges and put their difference to the side to get things done in their favor.

    Gay is not the new Black. Being black is not some cute phrase you use to get promo . And I’ve heard the gay rights movement reasonableness the women’s rights movement in certain aspects such as our blk LGBT brothers and sisters having a seat at the table and not just being used as fillers ( numbers).

  • Libby

    Damn, black people can’t catch a break. People expect us to wear our marching shoes out on everything. Black people who care should fight for LBGT rights, but that is not a requirement for ALL black people. There are overarching issues that connects all black people. Education, Racism, Crime etc. and there are issues that don’t
    (environment, immigration, abortions). For those who feel a deep connection on LGBT issue should act, but it’s not my duty as a black person to do so.

  • Wanda

    When I see 500 young gay people murdered in a single urban city like Chicago then I’ll admit that gay is the new Black.

  • http://tontonmichel.tumblr.com/ Tonton Michel

    Gay rights is a just cause, but this need of theirs to guilt trip black people into supporting them while making unnecessary comparison with both sides undermines their efforts especially when you do not believe they treat their black brethren fairly.

  • http://www.lorrikey.com Lorri M. Key (@mslorrim)

    “Why must we assume that gay people aren’t racist? There are non-black gay people who could careless or want to be bothered by the same struggles their black “counterparts” go through.”———–>Truth

  • K

    im all for gay people but i cannot stand when they compare it to the civil rights movement & being black… & it makes me a little unsympathetic. Im sorry, (not saying they should have too) but you can hide being gay, i cant rub this brown off my skin & pretend im not black..so until you can look at someone & say gay like you can look at me & say im black i have no sympathy for that argument.

  • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com Val

    Wow. How quickly we forget that our ancestors had allies who fought with us for our civil rights. Jewish people and gay Whites stood with and were beaten along with Black people. And, some Jews and other non-Black people were killed fighting for our rights.

    So, as we all sit here on our high horses talking about how wrong it is to compare the (continued) oppression of Black people to the oppression of the LGBT community, just be thankful that those non-Black people didn’t feel the same way back in the day, otherwise we all would be living very different lives.

  • http://gravatar.com/jamesfrmphilly jamesfrmphilly

    what happened to the olde black?

  • KR

    It is not a coincidence that 50% of the black television personalities on CNN & MSNBC are gay. You think you’re getting a black perspective. You’re actually getting a GAY black perspective.

  • Apple

    Yes!!!

  • Aragon

    Um, have you looked at any stats for the murders of gay black people and other gay POC? So many people think that the LGBT rights movement is solely a white movement. Our gay black brothers and sisters are out there dying too. I mean, my god, the average trans* man or woman dies before the age of 30 (http://www.thetaskforce.org/reports_and_research/ntds). And most of the ones bringing down that average are POC, not the white trans people. Only by realizing the connectivity of our struggles, by understanding that we all belong to more than one oppressed group, and understanding both our oppression and our privilege (whether as straight, as male, as upper-class, etc), only by putting together all of these things will all of us be able to advance.

  • http://gravatar.com/actproductions

    As a gay black woman, I completely agree with this sentiment. There is no question that the gay community has racial hierarchies and there is no denying that white men, irrespective of their sexuality, will always have more power than any person of color. White gays can also be extremely racist. A black gay friend of mine recently informed me that he was dis-invited from hanging out with a group of white gays because the friend that invited him informed him that the large group didn’t like black people. (Gay people are just like everyone after all – just as ignorant and flawed as every other group of people on planet earth). We are in fact human.

    That being said, I think there are many parallels that can be drawn between the two struggles, but that is as far as I will go.

    I am black and gay and a woman and lord knows that I really don’t know who would choose to be black, gay and a woman. That doesn’t mean that I’m down trodden, but the reality is that being black and gay and a woman comes with a great deal of strife, and I think that it puts me in a unique position to understand oppression/discrimination (because, I get it from angles – I experience discrimination from my nuclear family, my extended family, my church, random people I encounter, coworkers, college friends, childhood friends, nonblack people, men, and within the gay community).

    I think the reason why you hear so many of the gay elite (gay white men) – although the piece that was the source of inspiration for this article is by a heterosexual black man – appropriating the struggle of the black community, is because they are looking at our oppression from the outside in. I see oppression from a 360 degree angle and I would never say that gay is the new black.

    With that said, I honestly face more obvious discrimination because of my sexuality than I do for being black. Emphasis on the word OBVIOUS. Black folks experience rejection in very overt and inconspicuous ways, but it is also more taboo to be outwardly racist towards a black person. There are LARGE segments of society who are more than willing to vocally deprive me of equal protection under the law (marriage, housing, and employment) as a a gay woman.

    In 29 states, I can be fired and denied housing and even kicked out of an establishment if I am perceived to be gay. I have been verbally assaulted and threatened with physical violence for holding my partners hand on the street. I also deal with discrimination not just from outsiders, but from my own family, church, friendship circle…etc. Although the layers of discrimination in the black community run deep, black folks can usually find solace in their homes and in their families. That is not always the case for gay people. But, I also want to point out that this is my experience and there are gay black people who will argue otherwise.

    All in all, both forms of discrimination are far too complex for any group to appropriate the struggle of any other group. But, I understand the desire to draw parallels.

  • http://gravatar.com/actproductions truth

    You are absolutely correct. There are many gay men who have been assaulted simply walking down the street – and they weren’t twirling. I have a very good friend who is gay and I fear for his safety every time he goes outside because everything about his mannerisms are gay…gay…gay…lol. Down to his smile. Everything about him since childhood is super, duper “gay”. Not to say that there is a particular way to behave as a gay person, but yes, he is effeminate. And even when he tries to be more masculine it is forced. He has a naturally high-pitched voice…etc. So no, not every gay man can just hide their sexuality. With gay women, there is more of an opportunity to blend.

  • Common Sense

    Sorry, but gay white males don’t get left behind for opportunities, so it is totally NOT the same as being black!!! Being gay does not stop a white man from rising to the top of corporate America, or from getting a bank loan or other various opportunities!!! DO NOT get it twisted!!!!!

  • Common Sense

    Hello, those Jews and gays that were marching alongside us were marching for rights also. Jews were kept out of corporate america, they were kept out of neighborhoods and country clubs, that is why they marched with us. Do your research honey!!!! They were marching for rights they weren’t getting also.!!! Look it up!!! Read that novel Focus, by Arthur Miller and get the old movie, Gentlemen’s Agreement and watch it before you get on your high horse. Please!

  • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com Val

    @Aragon

    Well said.

  • http://gravatar.com/cgolller cgolller

    Anyone who thinks Gay is the New Black has never been Black. — That being said I wrote this piece 4 plus years ago after the 2008 elections.

    Chad Goller-Sojourner Takes on “Who Passed Prop 8?” Debate

    Since the passage of California’s Prop. 8, which reversed a State Supreme Court decision legalizing gay marriage, a potentially poisonous debate has sprung up over whether the California African-American community, who turned out in record numbers to vote for Obama, bears special responsibility for passing the measure. For perspective, we turned to Chad Goller-Sojourner, a local writer, poet, and performance artist whose work has explored his own struggles growing up black and gay.

    A guest post by Chad Goller-Sojourner

    I’ve spent the better part of this past week trying to understand new math. It’s the kind of math where a people, who make up 6.7 percent of California’s population, end up responsible for the passage of a statewide proposition. It’s the kind of math that minimizes the fact that all of Proposition 8’s creators and major backers, those that share 100 percent responsibility for the measure’s very existence, share the same common denominator: conservative white men. It’s the kind of math in which cable news political pundits and pollsters insert new vocabulary—”the Obama factor”—and then attempt to provide “insight” into it.

    Furthermore, it fails to examine Proposition 8 in its historical context and thereby misses the silver lining, which is: in 2000 Proposition 22, which similarly sought to declare same sex marriage illegal, passed overwhelmingly by a 61.2 to 38.8 percent margin. And, yes Proposition 8 also passed, however there the margin was much smaller (52.2 to 47.8 percent). Two similar propositions placed before the same body in a relatively short time-frame show striking evidence that in the court of public opinion, the winds of change continue to blow in our favor. And, yes, the fact that our rights are being voted on in this court troubles me deeply.

    And finally, new math clouds our ability to take comfort in knowing that while legal protections and constitutional rights often come much later than requested, history reveals not only do they come, but the waiting period continues to grow shorter. The road from Stonewall to present is a lot shorter than both the road from the 13th Amendment to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and the road from the beginning of the Suffrage movement to the passage of the 19th Amendment.

    Let’s cut to the heart of the matter. The big elephant in the room of this whole debate is the larger gay white community’s disappointment and anger over polling numbers which CNN associated with black voters. It shocks them to their core: how can blacks, with their long history of slavery, Jim Crow and segregation, vote in favor of discrimination and bigotry?

    While I’d love to dive right into exploring the aforementioned, to do so would play into the fallacy so prevalent in today’s gay white community, which is that a relationship exists between them and the larger black community. They fail to grasp that within the larger black community, white gays and lesbians are seen as part of the larger white community. This is partly of their own making as, historically, gay rights organizations have chosen white leaders and spokespeople whom they believe will present well to the white middle/upper class. This plan seems to work well, even among blacks who continue to view the gay community and “gay issues” as white.

    So why do white gay community leaders continually choose to bypass the gays and lesbians who are already members of the target community (black gays and lesbians) and go directly to the larger black community? It appears many believe that since being gay often changes their status and affiliation with the larger white community, it also somehow changes the way they are seen in the black community. It does not. Nor does it necessarily, automatically, increase their sense of empathy or understanding regarding the black community. Regardless of what you think you know about homophobia in the black community, the fact remains that the vast majority of black gay and lesbians choose to reside in the black communities. The larger white gay community would be wise to take note of this as they explore the impact of black voters and craft ways to reach out to the larger black community.

    Had the “No on Proposition 8″ folks understood this, they might have redesigned the interracial marriage comparison campaign they used to reach out to blacks to vote against Proposition 8. Merits aside, the Loving decision of 1967 (that struck down laws banning interracial marriage) is neither well known nor seen as a civil rights milestone in the black community. Shortsighted, perhaps, but given the fact they were dealing with lynching, assassinations, and bombings, the right to marry into the community of their oppression was understandably hard to get behind. That being said, there is still merit in the comparison. It’s just a wonder who thought it best to send white gays to make the argument to the black community? To do so shows a lack of understanding of both the importance of the messenger and what today’s black community actually feels about interracial marriage.

    Had they found an interracial gay or lesbian couple (of which there are many) to serve as their spokespeople, they may have had better luck. Or at the very least, the black member of such a couple might have suggested they run with the Rosa Parks (back of the bus) or Brown v. Board of Education (separate is not equal) comparisons. Because, at the end of the day, anyone who has ever spent any time in the black town square, (aka barbershops and beauty salons), knows that the responses and opinions to a comment like, “Did you know so-and-so is gay?” pales in comparison to a comment like, “I heard so and so is messing with a white girl.”

    On November 4, 2008, California gays, lesbians, and their allies lost a battle. Based on the final numbers, as well as the continued incoming crop of young voters, if organizers on both sides ran a very similar campaign in 2012, we’d win. That being said, I think we can do better. We should see this as a call for a new movement, not a parade, not a rally, not another “We are just like you so it would be unfair to take our rights away” campaign. But a movement that embraces those among us who are nothing like them; a movement that encompasses, that believes enough in itself that there is no need to link its worth on a false resemblance between two communities with two very distinct and different cultures. This is the type of new math needed for a renewed civil rights movement.

    Chad is Seattle-based writer and performer whose one-man show, Sitting in Circles With Rich White Girls, was produced by the BrownBox Theatre at the Rainier Valley Cultural Center. He was profiled by Seattlest in July.

  • http://gravatar.com/testingthisout testingthisout

    That statement is a misuse of the phrase “____ is the new black.”

    The phrase is fashion and color black. It’s original intention is that ______ is now as common as the color black, not the race.

  • @ifeedemlead

    When the ‘War on Drugs’ hits the gay community, call me. When having a gay sounding name, disqualifies you from a job, call me. When everybody has the same privileges as Able bodied White Males, call 777.9311

  • donnadara

    It would be nice if black people would feel kinship with another oppressed people, but poor white people are still voting Republican rather than feeling kinship with non-white poor people. Get off our backs. Gay is gay, black is black. And black people aren’t especially homophobic. We talk a good game, but we love our gay family members, choir members and choir directors. We just like to live in denial. Ask some black gay people about racism in the gay community.

  • mikey kun

    I love everyword you wrote!

  • sbee3

    Thanks for this. Found a link to this post: http://seattlest.com/2008/11/19/cgjguesteditorial.php.

  • http://stealthatbitchslook.blogspot.com STBL

    Why do we have to compare oppression/struggle? It’s like we need to give a medal to the group with the most oppression! Can’t we just agree discrimination of any kind is wrong and not compare struggles? We don’t need to pick a side, just fight for what you believe in. Gay rights, black rights, both or whatever.

  • sbee3

    I guess it’s the belief or sense that these allies think their work is done because we’re “free” (be interesting to know how that is defined across groups). For the most part, Jewish people, gay people, and other non-black people moved on after the marches, which I hold nothing against that choice. But being a free black person doesn’t look or feel like being a free non-black person in America. Our neighborhoods, for the most part, are similar to Cuban neighborhoods, except they’re stuck in the late 80s, 70s, or even 60s depending on where you are. I think that is where people are like, but we’re still fighting/struggling (the best we can, the best way we know how — however that looks). It might not be civil rights or the civil rights movement, but there are a new set of rights we don’t have (maybe social, educational, or economic mobility)

  • http://stealthatbitchslook.blogspot.com STBL

    I thought the same thing about the shirts! Just like people have Pink is the new black shirts and stuff like that.

  • listener

    @ SMH: I do believe the homosexual lifestyle is a choice. It begins with feelings you choose to act on. Persons struggle with the question am I really gay or not before accepting- “this is who I am” or “I discovered I was gay when…. “THAT is not natural procedure to me. It’s a PROCESS by choice.

    Furthermore I think the LGBT community is far from being disenfranchised as black people were. The constitution has no laws against the right for homosexuals to vote, get an education, shop in the same supermarkets or take the bus as other heterosexuals. Does institutional racism ring a bell?

    YES I know that gays experience discrimination daily. But fighting for people to support or promote your lifestyle is different from generations of people being persecuted for skin colour.

    Noone chooses skin colour at birth. THAT wasn’t a choice.

  • MMK

    Bingo! It’s not against us black people. I read it’s not a knock against us black folks. Let’s all relax.

  • http://Wynn Wenona

    Let me start by saying, I 100%, without reservation, support marriage equality and civil right for gay people. That being said as a person of color working in the entertainment industry, where there are some powerful gay folks calling shots, I can definitively tell you that there are plenty of gay racists. If the gay community would check there own folks for this bad behavior, I think it would help heal some bad blood.

  • lil ray

    What Scripture?

  • http://gravatar.com/nolakiss16 binks

    “i’m not your damn measuring stick for struggle and even if i was , YOU MEASURED WRONG”

    LOVE this quote! And co-sign the whole comment. I’ am all for people fighting for equality and identify with human rights struggles but I never understood comparing being gay to being black. The opression is not the for both groups and you know what THAT IS OKAY. As mention you can draw similarities but our struggles aren’t the same.

  • http://Wynn Wynning

    I have never known folks to change a behavior or mindset by being preach to about who they are, what their responsibilities are and what they should think from on high by people with privilege and no understanding of the folks they are judging. Yet these same privileged preachers can’t be bothered to engage in a true human dialogue with the folks that want to change. My advice: take a listen to MJ’s “Man In The Mirror.”

  • http://cruelteafree.wordpress.com cruelteafree

    “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” -Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    That’s how I feel about it for the most part.

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  • useless black middle class

    Blacks have no responsibility to fight the the gay “fight” unless they give us something tangible in return for our support. End of

    The mission objective and mission priority of the Liberator Class in the black community (which is any black person who wants to be free of white western capitalist domination) is to LIBERATE themselves from the system of white supremacy whether that is

    White supremacy
    BLACK white supremacy
    FEMINIST white supremacy
    GAY white supremacy

    All alliances must be made only the basis that it serves that goal. If not, who gives a sh*t what oppression they claim to suffer, Not my job to solve your “problem”.

    Blacks fight is not a fight against mere discrimination and racism, it is a fight for freedom from the limits placed on our lives and for political sovereignty and economic self determination

    When you understand our struggle in those terms you understand why so called gay rights are a distraction.that blacks have no moral obligation to support.

    Most gays don’t want to end white supremacy, they just want greater assimilation into it. Their fight is a fight against “discrimination” our is something else.
    .

  • Pseudonym

    Question: will those 500 young gay people have to be murdered by other young gay people? (Also, you guys are misinterpreting the phrase.)

  • Wiseman

    Before we compare Same-Sex Marriage and Black oppression in these NOT yet United States of America. Let’s look at who benefits:

    1. Who benefits from Anti-Semitism?
    Jews not The Children of Abraham.

    2. Who are the true Semites?
    Children of Abraham.

    3. Who are the Children of Abraham?
    All current human beings without any traces of Neanderthal DNA, meaning all Sub-Saharan African Phenotype Human Beings.

    4. So why aren’t the original children of Abraham true beneficiaries of their fathers promised land? Well, that will tell you why Blacks have being persecuted from the inception of documented historical records.

    5. When you think of women’s rights, who really benefits in the job market, in politics, in education or for that matter, when she becomes a single mother?
    The Caucasian woman. Not the African American woman. Did African American women help during the feminist movement for equality? Yes. Is diversity in the U.S. Senate? Yes. How many Caucasian women. Too many to name. How many African American women? Zero.

    5. Who shall be the true beneficiary (economically & politically) of the Same-Sex Marriage struggle? Caucasian people. Not African Americans. Think not, then you are either dissociating or in denial or deflecting the charlatan, insidious, nefarious White American supremacy ideology of institutional racism against African American people. Lastly, African Americans MUST insist with help from the International Community that the United States Congress admit it’s role and responsibility for the Translantic Slave Trade and to apologize for it’s insidious affects to the Black dissendants that call themselves African Americans today in these NOT yet United States of America. Then, work towards including these African Americans positively into the American economy and polity structure without reservation. Then I will change my mind.

    Gay is the new Black. What ABSURDITY!

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.nicholson.524 Richard Nicholson

    As someone who is simultaneously black, male, and gay, It’s really difficult to see when my black brothers and sisters frame these kinds of debates in an “us and them” way. People like me who juggle multiple marginalized identities don’t just require a caveat, or a parenthetical mention like in this post. People like me should prompt us, instead, to understand that the “one group at a time” approach to obtaining civil rights is flawed. Oppressed people have been trained for for decades in this country to fight for inadequate resources to address all our needs. The result is a competition between marginalized people to prove whose lives suck, and have sucked the most as a result of institutional oppression.

    In my opinion, the solution is not to sit around and argue over which groups deserve more help. Supporting the full equality of any oppressed group is supporting human rights across the globe.

    I am very flexible on what support can look like. There are too many injustices in the world to be actively involved with all of them; so fight for what you feel most passionate about. But don’t block gay rights because you lack a nuanced view of what gay means. Gays are not just the uppity white male couples purchasing Mc-Mansions on HGTV. If my fellow black people had not been so homophobic in the first place, perhaps we, as a community would have known more about our gay brothers and sisters we cross paths with daily. As someone inundated with my blackness since my conception, it’s every easy for me to see white supremacy everywhere. But what about straight supremacy in Black communities? Should I stop fighting to improve the lives of my people because they’ve marginalized me for who I’m attracted to? Hypocritical…..

    When the Advocate released the “Black is the New Gay” cover following Proposition 8, I was absolutely livid. I swore that the cover was proof that the predominantly white gay rights movement was misappropriating the suffering of black people; my people. But the truth is that Bayard Rustin, trusted advisor to MLK, gave a 1986 speech called, “The New Niggers are Gays.” Of course, it would take someone with multiple marginalized identities to make such a radical claim. Bayard understood his efforts and the efforts of the Civil Rights Movement as part of a larger story of global equality. He used non-violent techniques from India to address racial, economic, and sexuality-based oppression for a variety of people in this country. Obtaining rights for people is not Black work or Gay work. It is HUMAN work. Perhaps now, while political and social polarization are the names of the game, we could stand to remind ourselves of our shared humanity more often.

    Peace Love and Hair Grease.

  • Camryn

    In the ORIGINAL article cited in this post, he’s using it about race. I’m pretty sure everyone knows it’s not the actual meaning of the term!

  • Sandy

    “Gay” may not be the new “black,” but “homophobe” is the new “racist.” Keep up with history or get left behind.

  • Timeka

    Wow. Great perspective.

  • GLBTareFREAKS

    sexual orientation =/= skin color

    dumbass gays

  • YouFancyhuh?

    There is not enough history of oppression for gay to be the new black. Once gays are removed from their lands against their own free will and crammed on a ship alongside hundreds of other gays to an alien land thousands of miles from home. Once gays have had their name and their culture stripped away and are unable to attain an education without the fear of being beaten to death. Then, and only then can gay be the new black.
    There is also the issue that gays, while still fighting for equality, have managed to secure rights at a faster pace than other minority groups. To my knowledge no police dogs were commanded to attack and no hoses were set to douse as they marched for civil liberties. Gay is not the new black.

  • apple

    twinks? yasss hahaha

  • SAMURAI36

    @ SMH:

    You are gravely mistaken, and clearly have not read the Bible, nor any of its history.

    http://www.afrostyly.com/english/afro/diverse/curse_of_ham.htm

    Interestingly enough, homosexuality is implied as the reason for our “affliction of blackness”.

  • SAMURAI36

    So?

  • SAMURAI36

    You’re actually just getting a gay perspective. Most of these gay blacks on the “news” are more reflective of the white perspective, than a black one.

  • SAMURAI36

    It would be nice if these people would feel a kinship with us, not the other way around. Nobody owes anybody anything.

    If you think Blacks are not anti-gay, you should venture to the Caribbean and Africa.

  • SAMURAI36

    Well, good riddance to them, then.

  • Steven

    You should be ashamed of yourself for treating being black and being gay as mutually exclusive characteristics. I’m gay and PoC and your insinuating this fake divide between “us” and “them” is repulsive. It has always been and will always be a matter of “us” because there ARE gay PoC and all you are doing is erasing us.

    Shame on you.

  • http://www.clutchmagazine.com Clutch

    Thanks for your comment. We actually on the same side. I hope you read the article :)

    Thanks!

  • Delmarz

    My cousins are bi-racial and gay. One is a male homosexual (my uncle’s son) and one is a lesbian (my aunt’s daughter.) I love them & want them to be happy, so i will always be there for them. But, they say that they are both discriminated by gays, as well as the larger society. I am not gay, but I believe in separation of church and state. Every citizen deserves the same rights. People should all be required to have the civil license and being married in a church should be optional according to your religious beliefs.

  • PL

    Thank you for this. It is wisdom, indeed.

  • PL

    Thanks for posting the task force report…it was interesting and persuasive

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