Judge Orders Man To Stop Procreating
A father of four, who owes $97,000 in back child support has been ordered to stop procreating. Judge James Walther, of Elyria, Ohio, handed down the sentence to Asim Taylor and he also received five years’ of probation for failure to pay child support. If Taylor impregnates another woman within this time period, he could face a year in jail.
Judge Walther told the defendant at his sentencing, according to the Lorain county Chronicle-Telegram: “I put this condition on for one reason and one reason alone. It’s your personal responsibility to pay for these kids.”
Of course Taylor’s lawyer finds this unconstitutional. “The Supreme Court has ruled that this particular order is illegal,” says Attorney Douglas Merrill. He says the judge’s ruling violates the father’s rights. Merrill plans on appealing the case on the grounds that it violates Taylor’s right to privacy, citing a previous Ohio Supreme Court decision.
“It’s not a question whether or not if he wants to have more kids. It’s a question of whether or not the government should be telling somebody that they can or they can’t,” explains Merrill. “I’ve heard from at least one of the mother’s that he does do what he can to help support the child.”
Merrill also said that he’s concerned if Taylor does impregnate a woman, that woman might feel pressured to have an abortion to prevent Taylor from going to prison. That could conflict with the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision that guarantees a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion.
The judge would be willing to lift the ban if Taylor, “’Can prove to the Court that he is able to provide support for his children he already has and is in fact supporting the children or until a change in conditions warrant.”
When speaking on his own behalf, Taylor admitted to not paying child support. “I take care of my children,” he said. “I just don’t pay them through child support.”
I have a relative who just had a baby from a guy that has 2 children with another woman. This man does not financially support the children he had and yet my cousin expected a different outcome when she had their son…I don’t get it. Unfortunately a lot of women go into these types of situations with their eyes wide open. Kudos to the judge who’s probably sick of seeing this kind of nonsense day in and day out.
One of the saddest things in the black community today is that we no longer have a “baby with” a man, but a “baby from” or worse, a “baby by” a man. It’s as if the woman is a consumer and the baby is a possession she picks up from the baby store.
Language is so powerful. We don’t even imply with our words anymore that conceiving a child is a partnership. So sad.
“This man does not financially support the children he had and yet my cousin expected a different outcome when she had their son…I don’t get it.”
I don’t get it either. It’s like some women still believe in the fairy tale b.s. that their ‘love’ can change a deadbeat into a fine catch. Makes no sense to me, and I hope it never will.
Amen Sister!
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I’ve never understood how ‘the story of the guy who helped get me pregnant and left me’ isn’t done to death by now. These women see it happen to their mothers, sisters, aunts, cousins, and friends then think the outcome is going to be different. WTH?
The simple fact is that if a man won’t care for his own flesh and blood–he won’t care for you or any children he fathers with you. Geesh! It’s not rocket science.
Don’t let your life be the after-school-special or today’s lesson!!
I don’t have a problem with the judges order I do have a problem with women who will applaud this ruling and turn around and be outraged if a judge issued the same ruling to a never married unemployed baby mama on welfare. You can’t have it both ways.
At what point are black folks going to admit their views on birth control just don’t work? 72% illegitimacy and many abortions as live births? That’s outrageous.
The narrative of condoms only and female contraceptives are optional/not needed is just plain laughable. It has never worked for any race nor nation in the world. Yet you all are promoting this failed ghetto myth to sexually active black teens and young adults? They’re being setup for failure. Funny thing is a lot of the black women promoting this condoms only nonsense are never married baby mamas or previous clients of abortion clinics. “Shrugz” Yes, plan on using a condom every time but if you don’t want to get pregnant you better have a back up plan. Condoms are good for prevention of STD’s and short term hookups. That’s it. When trust is built and emotions and feeling are involved the condom is almost always not used or not used as often. It’s just a fact of life, regardless of race.
i’m not one of those people , i would applaud still if they did to a woman who does that, like that homeless woman with 9-10 kids by 7 men or however many trying to stay in that motel without paying
You mean Angel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E
Her story is the worst.
where and when have black women advocated condoms only? Every sex education program I’ve ever seen embraced female birth control. When I was a teenager the sexual badge of honor was the deprovera shot until word spread about its side effects. Now the favored contraception method is the patch, they hand vouchers for that out at some high schools.–condoms are the only protection from stds. The message should be even if you are on birth control, you still need to use a condom. Its both at all times, despite feelings and commitment, that needs to be emphasized to ALL young people. Instead of blaming black women for some supposed condom only campaign, frankly I think you made this conspiracy up, there are some real issues that should be looked at:
1. Planned parenthood is still an intimidating place for young women to walk in. Hence the push to allow planned parenthood on high school campuses but alot schools aren’t having that, they don’t even want sex ed taught in the schools
2. Primary Physicians are reluctant to administer some birth control methods in their office. My doctor wouldn’t give me an IUD and she spoke negatively of both the shot and the patch. We had a very long conversation about the side effects. She would only write me a prescription for birth control pills.
3. birth control pills are so problematic for me and other women that I didn’t even want that prescription, I threw it away. And took my butt to planned parenthood which I had to pay full price for the doctor visit because my insurance doesn’t cover it(no copay). I’m in my 30s’, married, with one kid, and suffering from MS it shouldn’t be so hard for me to just get a prescription.
4. I think the one think that never gets talked about is how birth control collides with all this romanticism that comes with sex. People get wrapped up in the moment, the intimacy of skin on skin that these plastic barriers, condoms and dental dams, are just unattractive. On NPR I heard a report about the elderly community and HIV. An old timer was voicing his concern about these changing times: ‘These days you can no longer meet a nice woman and take her back to your place to make love to her. In my days sex was the only free fun we had.” I think his statement describes why so many people have a problem with all the issues that come with sex. –Its a mixture of access to female contraception, money for condoms and female contraception, and this traditional idea of intimacy couple with ‘all we have to do is take our clothes off’ that leads to procreating. Not some hidden message for condoms only by black women. If theres some hidden agenda by black women for condoms only can you please provide a link to something to prove your claims.
Do you read the comments on this and other black blogs? Do you ever talk to some of these black mamas? The first thing out if their month is… “he shoulda used a condom”. lol
I’ve seen and heard (condoms only) black women blame condoms for her pregnancy so many times that I’ve lost count.
Condoms are the easiest contraceptive to get. I mean they hand these things out for free. Birth control has health effects and requires a prescription. It also needs a while to kick in. So a man should still be using a condom even though a woman is on birth control if he absolutely does not want children with a woman. Also birth control does not prevent disease.
newsflash the first thing out of any baby mamas, despite race, mouth is We should’ve used a condom. Like white or latino baby mamas say something different to explain their unplanned pregnancy. Also all these non-black baby mamas with mixed babies indicate that black men have a problem using condoms and need to take responsibility for their own bodies instead of blaming some secret conspiracy by the society of black women. — Emphasis is on condoms because they are most immediate form of birth control. Notice I included the word We, not he because most of the women I know acknowledge that the use of a condom is also their responsibility, not just the man. Comments on a blog or the stories from individual women do not indicate a culturally mandated policy of condoms only.
@leelah
I read your comments in the “open discourse” thread. You’re whip smart when it comes to these types of (women’s/ social justice) issues. Are you in this field professionally?
Since you want to bring up white women. Do you know that their illegitimacy rate is 30% and black womens rate is 72%? That’s more than double! I wouldn’t be having this discussion if the black illegitimacy rate was 30%. When you factor in the wide discrepancy in the amount of abortions between black and white women it’s clear who’s using female contraceptives and who isn’t. 60% of never married black baby mamas have MULTIPLE baby daddies. What does that tell you?
We know condoms alone does not work and has never worked for any race nor nation. It’s not about immediate as if every last one of these young black girls got pregnant the first and only time she had unprotected sex. lol It’s about blacks finally admitting what works and what does not work. Now what exactly, in the hell, are you talking about?
isolde3…thank you women’s issues is one of my passions. I was raped at 18 in a violent home invasion, part of my healing was first volunteering at a rape crisis center. I volunteered with the same organization that sent two volunteers to the hospital to counsel me. Then I worked with an aids support group in the early 90s’. We helped aids patients with their day to day life, running errands, cleaning, and cooking. Then I volunteered at an intake center for foster kids, when they’re first removed from the home. Often these are small children and the center needed volunteers to hold and play with them.Staff members were responsible for feeding and dressing the children but volunteers were needed as support staff. I’ve taken a few sociology, social work, women’s studies, and law classes. But I learned the most about these issues through my volunteer work.
KR…I was referring to the excuses you say that black baby mamas use. As if those excuses are any different than the excuses that all baby mamas use. Since you want to bring up the illegitimacy rates of white women, lets go there. Looking beyond ‘the condom broke’ here is some of the reasons for our different situations:
1. Have you ever heard ‘its not race, its class’. The poor as a group experiences the most social ills. And since the majority of the black population is poor than it stands to reason our illegitimacy rate is higher than the white population. The birthrate is very close statistically for all races in relation to income. In fact as we climb the social economic ladder the birthrate goes down for all races. The more educated, the more affluent, the more skilled population, the lower the birthrate. And since there’s more white women in college then any other group, including white men, then it makes since that their birthrate is lower.
2. the average college campus takes a very liberal planned parenthood approach to reproduction. Most colleges have a health center, which provides very low cost health care, part of their mission is to get the majority of its female population on birth control. In the health center condoms are free. heck at the front desk of most dorms they have a supply of condoms. and female contraception is cheap because its subsidized by the college. after all if your female population has a high pregnancy rate than your school has a low graduation rate. do you see how unplanned pregnancies can be a problem for a college?
3. the poor, especially black people, are depressed. With depression comes despair and drug abuse(mostly casual), alcohol abuse, and poor planning for the future. Couple that with the lack of romance for marriage and family, and black people have very little incentive to wait for marriage because a lot of people feel that marriage is out of their reach.
4. No one ever talks about the sexual history of the majority of black women. The majority of black women 1 in 4 will be raped or molested before the age of 18. Women with a history of sexual violence or molestation have the worst stats among any group of women, high birthrates, high stds’, high mental illness(including depression), high drug and alcohol abuse, and the highest crime rate(for prostitution its 90%).–above all, women who survive any sexual violation see and experience sex, love, marriage, and family differently.
5. Just like the things that poor black men see and experience affect their mental health, involvement in gangs and crime, drug and alcohol abuse the same is true for poor black women. But on top of all of that poor black women have to deal with pregnancy. Brothers deal with getting caught up and sisters deal with getting knocked up.
6. But if you insist on comparing white women and black women(as if we’re equals) the fair thing to do is compare black men to white men. On all social measures black men have worse numbers than white men, including out of wedlock births. But lets not limit it to black illegitimacy, look at marriage rates, divorce rates, crime stats, drug and alcohol abuse, and even domestic violence.
7.But on the real, living in a white suburb, most of the black men date white women. I see and know alot of white single mothers raising mixed children. I see alot of young white teen girls with their mixed babies. And I see alot of young black men walking around with their mixed babies like they never heard of a condom. At my daughters gymnastics class I even heard a white grandfather asking the black baby father when was he going to marry his daughter. Lets stop pretending that illegitimate kids is only the concern of black women because those black statistics are following black men to their interracial relationships. In fact a third of black children in foster care is now biracial so that should tell you something.–white people now have a joke. Once you go black, you become a baby mother.
maybe they should get shawty lo too and that guy who had like 20-50 kids that time?