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I thought men rocking nail polish was old news (see Dwyane Wade) but the internet has been buzzing since Snoop Dogg posted a picture on Instagram engaging in his favorite green hobby and showing off his French manicure.

Maybe the style of manicure is a new phenomenon on men, but we know plenty of guys who take pride in polishing their nails and have been doing it for years.

It’s important to me that a man pay attention to his nails, keeping them neatly groomed and manicured. Polishes (from clear to darker colors) are optional and not cause for concern.

However, a French manicure pushes the boundaries of what’s acceptable male polish to some people and in Snoop Dogg’s case, it had tongues wagging. His picture received so much attention on Instagram alone it was at 30K likes at the time of this post.

As long as it’s neat and understated, I’m all for men with manicures. Nail art is another conversation though.

What about you, Clutchettes? What do you think of Snoop Dogg’s manicure? Would you embrace French manicures as a new male polish trend?

  • SAMURAI36

    Wow, we are living in a world where the man’s man is slowly becoming a dinosaur, and the homo male is now the standard.

  • angel

    Gross

  • B

    Well, according to the majority of ladies of Clutch, social constructs that dictate how men and women dress should be a-bolished!

    Men sporting skirts ala Kanye is fine.
    Boys rocking braid outs to school is awesome.
    I’m sure a man wearing polish is no big deal.

    I imagine their SOs look like Rupaul’s drag contestants. And
    to think, these are the women raising boys today. SMH

  • SAMURAI36

    True indeed. These are the same women that expect men that they barely know to take them to fancy, expensive restaurants, & to be “the head” in the relationship, yet allow them their complete & total independence at the same time….

    Up is down & down is up. But what can one expect when everyone is taking cues from reality TV? And then people wonder why no one has a grip on reality…

  • amika

    I think snoop should do whatever the fuck he wants

  • EST. 1986

    I don’t think anything of it really besides it being another celebrity grasping for attention.

  • Pseudonym

    Snoop Dogg is going crazy. Not b/c of the nail polish. More just the random antics.

    I’m just saying, how you gonna have a perfect french tip and your hair is a WRECK?!!!

  • blackcanuck

    This just proves what I have been saying all along, Snoop is not a true Rasta but a fashion dread.This is Babylon system brainwashing. I’m not a Ras and even see this is bere effery!

    But if men are going to start wearing nail polish let them, but you will never catch my son or my husband with this mess, yuh mad?! Dwrcl!

  • Robbie

    I see no problem with at all. I rock nail polish all the time. I don’t do the nail art, but I have so many colors it’s crazy. lol I dig it. I love it. Its fun. And so what….Im a man. Nail polish does not make you gay. Gay is when you like men. Nail polish is just paint.

  • Dave

    I dig it.

  • SAMURAI36

    “Rocking nail polish is fun…”

    Ladies & gentlemen, in my culture, this is what we call, a Batty Bwoy.

    With all these “men/boys” wearing women’s clothes, painting their nails, sagging their pants, & sexing men, this is a clear indication of young men having no connection with their fathers.

    I love women & appreciate their efforts, but it takes more than a woman to raise a young boy into a man.

  • Niki

    And soon he’ll be posing in lingerie…..

  • SAMURAI36

    The problem is when everyday people start following the trends that these celebrities set.

    For years we’ve tried to emulate these people, & look where it’s gotten us.

  • SAMURAI36

    Precisely. It’s amazing how people have refused to take notice to the not-so-gradual feminizing of black males. we are being systematically destroyed, mentally, physically, & socially.

    Wearing dresses, wearing nail polish, talking all high-pitched with a “lisp”, looking all greazed up & soft…

    Usually if it quacks like a duck then it is one, but somehow we are supposed to believe that these dudes aren’t gay?

    That’s the Jedi Mind Trick: convincing people what they don’t see what is right in front of their very eyes.

    And I guess that yellow liquid on my leg is rain too, right?

  • Deidra

    What is considered the norm or acceptable according to gender constructs evolves over time. Because hyper-masculinity prevails in the Western world, this looks out of place. In past eras, pink was THE go-to boys’ color, men wore make-up and ruffles an lace, etc. Things we would deem “feminine” now.

    I believe that since society is beginning to give more creed to the individual, we are defining ourselves differently through a gendered lens–even if it goes against the grain.

    Plainly put, though, it’s Snoop. It is ridiculous–he stated that these were “French tips for a French inhale”–and it makes sense at the same time because…it’s Snoop.

  • http://tontonmichel.tumblr.com/ Tonton Michel

    He is an “artist” I do not consider them as normal people or take them seriously. There here for my entertainment not my role model.

  • Joy

    OK listen up men…..Leave the “French Manicures” to women

  • SAMURAI36

    All that “gender evolution” stuff is for the birds. Thats some psycho- babble that European “experts” say, to justify their twisted deviation from the natural course of humanity.

    Calling masculinity”Western” is a dead giveaway to this. The concept of masculinity & femininity transcend western culture & civilization, & date back to African, Asian & Native American cultures.

    This same “gender evolution” is the reason fathers are no present in the family unit, why why young people think being bisexual is “cool” these days.

    This is not evolution, this is a mutation.

    As for Snoop, calling him “normal” is an absolute oxymoron. He is a living, breathing example of everything I described.

  • http://gravatar.com/jswindell jswindell

    This is what I believed happened in this order.

    1. Dude woke up and forgot to eat something
    2. He took a big hit of the Cali green (which does kill brain cells over time)
    3. Went out, walked around higher than Gazoo and found himself in a nail salon
    4. Fong knew he had money so while he was trippin, she talked him into something different that is not as committed as acrylic/gel/silk wrap
    5. Woke up later, got clowned and somebody in his crew realized that it might be a nice PR angle since that Snoop Lion ain’t really taking off

  • AM

    Batty Bwoy is a pejorative!

    I do agree that it takes two sets of parents, not just the mother to raise a young boy into a man! Amen to that!

  • Robbie

    Well, there certainly are some who think that. But people can beleive what they want, and there is no way any of us will ever be able to control that (or want to).

    Painting nails is something that has been widely considered something that women do, and men don’t. But that is changing. Many men are wearing their nails Ifingers and toes) painted today, and more are discovering this growing style for men.

    Gay means that you like other men. Painting your nails means that you like to have painted nails. Seems pretty simple to me.

  • soulfullyreal

    Ya’ll never met a pimp? Lol! Seriously, Snoop is obviously influenced by that lifestyle and old school pimps literally got french manis all the time. It’s a way to show they gonna look fly, fuck what anyone else thinks. French Manis, a bright ass pink fur coat, etc. I personally don’t want my man rockin it, but I see where he’s getting it.

  • Margaret Cooley

    He is clearly bored. How about trying something new? Put the weed down and give your brain a rest.

  • SAMURAI36

    @ AM:

    “Batty Bwoy is a pejorative”!

    So, what’s your point?

    @ Robbie

    1) How old are you? You talk about what grown men do, but I don’t know any grown, STRAIGHT men who answer to “Robbie”.. Perhaps Robert, Rob, or Bobby. “Robbie sounds like a name a child would answer to… Or someone gay. Plus, the way you express yourself sound young… “Painting nails is fun”, like some little girl who plays dress-up in their mom’s jewelry & clothes. Again, nothing a grown man would say, not a straight one anyways.

    Speaking of which:

    2) You try to make the distinction of what “being gay” is…. Are you a straight man?

    3) Just being “times c
    are changing, doesn’t mean they are changing for the better.

    4) Just because you think that this is “pretty simple” doesn’t mean that it is. There are people in this world, that think killing, chopping up, & eating another human being is “pretty simple”.

    What this is, is being pretty LOST.

  • SAMURAI36

    You say “ya’ll never met a pimp, as if this is something to aspire to, or be socially accepted.

    I see a pimp as someone that dresses in outrageous clothes, jewelry, & makeup like a cartoon character, & walking, talking & acting like they are performing in a Minstrel show.

    In the circus, they call such a person a CLOWN. But the difference is, clowns don’t disrespect, exploit or abuse women. Plus, there has always been something inherently gay about the pimp way of life. Anyone that proudly says “I don’t love them hoes” while dressing & acting like one, clearly leans to the homo side of things.

    But yes, I can clearly see how Pimp-Rasta-Batty Bwoy Snoop was influenced by the pimp lifestyle; he fits my description perfectly.

  • http://gravatar.com/nolakiss16 binks

    No, I am not understanding this whole nail trend with men. I always felt that men with nails styled similar to women is a turn off espeically men with long finger nails. Just keep them neat and clean please all this other stuff isn’t neceassry.

  • Robbie

    hahaha Well my is Robbie Im 45. Being doing my nails for around 12 years now. Im straight. Now what you are showing is cultural conditioning. But its all good. To each its own. And yes. It’s FUN! ;-)

  • http://Johnson Veal

    The brighter the bolder and the most pink or red shades go for me, a male.

  • Shirl

    Ok now, this was funny…I actually snorted out loud…teeheehee

  • RLH

    OK listen up Women…Leave PANTS AND TEE SHIRTS to Men, LOL

  • RLH

    I am a Man, Why is it you can do everything I do, But I cant do anything you do? Equality goes both ways.

  • Derek

    I think you are very close minded and a bigot. You clearly do not like the idea of men painting their nails, but make no firm argument against it. How does painting of nails, a component of what you call ‘not-so-gradual feminizing of [black] males’, systematically destroying society? What does it matter?

  • Jake

    Well, if you put the into a little perspective, painting ones nails seems rather insignificant to more accepted ‘hobbies’ like drinking to excess, open sex, stalking and such.
    But as long as there are more than one person on this planet, we’ll have more than one opinion on pretty much everything we do.
    Honestly, having good looking nails is pretty enjoyable and many men are beginning to figure this out. Since when does a little color on one’s nails hurt anything? I’ve been wearing my toenails painted for close to five years and it hasn’t detracted from the love I have for my wife. In fact, she got me started!

    - Jake

  • SAMURAI36

    If not liking the systematic destruction of black males equates to being closed minded, then quilty as charged.

    You clearly haven’t read all my responses here, if you think I’ve made “no firms argument” here.

    It’s not just the painting of nails that I take grievance with. It’s the systematic emasculation of black males that we are watching taking place in our communities. This “male polish” issue is but one example.

    If you cannot bring yourself to see it (perhaps because you yourself are a victim of it?), then perhaps I am not the one who is closed minded here.

    “What does it matter”, that our people are being destroyed systematically?

    Is that some sort of trick question?

  • SAMURAI36

    I wonder what your father has to say about your cosmetic choices, “Robbie”

  • Kay

    Who cares what he does? In this day and age, we talk about equality but when it comes to gender roles everyone gets in a tizzy and starts spouting off what is and isn’t appropriate for men and women. I hear some of my girlfriends who want to be treated as an individual regardless of what they choose to do with their bodies or appearance but will pass judgement on a man citing that “he looks gay,” or I have Black male friends who will decry the racism they see everyday but if a guy doesn’t do x, y, or z, then he is to be ridiculed for not fitting into their narrow view of manhood. We can’t have it both ways. Either we combat the system that dictates how we are ALL defined or we just admit that we want equality only when it’s convenient.

  • Blue

    I guess I’m apart of the minority on clutch cause I like my men to look like men. I don’t want to go to the nail salon & he’s getting the same color polish as I am.

  • Robbie

    My father have no problem with it. Why would he? He still gonna love me. If I came to him and say that I was gay. Would he stop loving me? Im his son. He will love me the same. As long as I ain’t on drugs, robbing and stealing he has zero problem with it. It is just paint. How do your father feel about you wearing jeans? Feel me? I haven’t seen one nail salon that say For Women Only. All cultural conditioning.

  • Robbie

    Why would he think anything? He doesn’t have a problem with it at all. Why would he? If I came to him and say I was gay, would he stop loving me as his son? No. He does not care at all. I am not doing anything wrong.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Any woman who thinks its her job – or society’s job – to tell me whether or not I’m allowed or accepted to put TEN DROPS OF PAINT on my OWN fingernails, should immediately:
    A) Decline her right to:
    -get a tattoo
    -wear pants
    -hold a job
    -hold a degree
    -run for or hold a public office
    -own property
    -drive a car
    -vote
    -SPEAK HER OPINION

    -OR-

    B) Recognize and admit that she is a prejudiced, bigoted hypocrite whose intolerance of men’s use of nail color is an actual defecation upon centuries of feminists who fought to secure freedoms, opportunities and equalities for her.

    Today is Martin Luther King Jr. Day – which makes this the perfect time to suggest that people should judge me – and Snoop, and Dwyane Wade, and Jorge Posada, and Steven Tyler, and Ozzy, and Seal, and David Beckham, and Johnny Depp, and Al Pacino, and Dean McDermott, and Cash Warren, and Len Wiseman, and Prince Harry… – not by the color on our nails, “but by the content of [our] character”.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Yes, there’s a place for gender roles, and gender identity, in society. There is a legitimate need to provide public restrooms that are segregated by gender – everyone with a P goes here, all who have a V go there. Fortunately, humans evolved in such a way that the “P-eople” have broad shoulders, facial hair and flat chests, while the “V-eople” lack facial hair but have relatively prominent breasts. Thanks to these natural differences, it’s usually easy to identify the gender of people entering restrooms, so that anyone observing a P going into the V room can call attention to the situation.

    Beyond that though, what justification is there for defining paint as “feminine” and “for women only”? Seriously, this is completely arbitrary, with no basis in fact and no practical, socially imperative purpose. Society could have just as easily developed a consensus that “only men decorate their nails with paint” – just as, before about 1985, society had a consensus that “only men decorate their skin with permanent ink”. Tattoos are no longer reserved for one gender only, and the current reservation of nail paint for only one gender IS falling rapidly.

    Personally, I think this is a very good thing, because as society sheds its arbitrary prejudices, it places greater emphasis on legitimate judgement – when one can’t be a “real man” by conforming to a dress code and a few macho BS activities, what is left is the opportunity to be a “real man” by conforming to a MORAL code that emphasizes his character.

  • SAMURAI36

    Wow, women encouraging men to engage in feminine behavior; will wonders never cease.

    All’s I can say, is I hope you both have a long life together. As you can see by the responses here, you will be hard-pressed to find other (especially Black) women who are going to accept & indulge you in this feminine practice.

  • SAMURAI36

    Everything you speak of in terms of gender roles, is completely Western in concept & origin. You act as if that is the only cultural relaity, or world POV, especially for Black people. We’ve never cleanly fit in with the Western cultural paradigm, as we were forced into it in the first place.

    For instance, you mention tattoos…. You are aware that women of color (Black, Asian, even Pacific Islander women) have been getting tats, & drawing on/marking their bodies, since time immemorial, yes?

    The problem continues to be in our taking cues from the western paradigm, which is diametrically opposite from our African nature.

    What you see as “a changing of the times”, is actually a cancer thats rapidly spreading & killing our communities.

    The notions that you now rail against as being outmoded, are what kept us alive, sane, & together, thru 400 years of oppression in this rapidly evolving Western society that you seem to love so much. It’s also the basic principles upon which we built entire civilizations.

    Thus, trying to compare women (& even Blacks) not being able to vote or drive a car under a White, Patriarchal oppressive system, to the natural, ancestral rules of gender, is a complete falsehood & miscomparison.

  • http://gravatar.com/afrosaxon1 afrosaxon1

    This made me laugh out loud literally.

  • Robbie

    Wow. wrong again. My wife is black. She has zero problem with it.

  • Medusa

    I’m with you. there is absolutely nothing that is biologically female about nail polish. Putting it on your nails says absolutely nothing about whether you like having sex with men, women, or both. I’m a straight cis woman and I don’t wear nail polish or make up or earrings. I don’t understand all the hate you’re getting here, I think it’s abhorrent.

  • SAMURAI36

    I see reading isn’t your strong suit. Go back & re-read what I stated.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    What, exactly, makes the paint on my nails “feminine”? The fact that (most) everybody SAYS it is? If that is your foundation for TRUTH, then do you also believe that, since everybody said it was, the Earth actually WAS FLAT once, until people changed their minds and “made” it round? You also speak of “natural, ancestral rules of gender” as if flamboyant displays of color are naturally feminine. Have you ever worn a peacock feather? Are you aware that the peacock is the male of that species, and that peahens lack the bold colors and distinctive tail feathers of their male counterparts? Peahens are drab, almost camouflaged, because in that species the female bears the responsibility to sit on her eggs while the male brings food to her. Other bird species exist where the egg tending responsibilities are shared more equally – and in those species, the males and females are often indistinguishable in their coloring. Penguins are one example of this. I thought “Equality” was a goal in our society…

    You made an EXCELLENT point about the importance of looking outside the narrow confines of Western customs. If this had been a column about Kanye West’s skirt/kilt, would you be here saying that ‘A skirt is “feminine” unless you’re a man from Scotland, which KW clearly is not’? But, a sarong is a type of skirt – and sarongs are commonly worn as menswear in Somalia and around the Horn of Africa.

  • SAMURAI36

    “How do your father feel about you wearing jeans? Feel me?”

    What an absurd question. Of course my father has no problems with me wearing jeans, so long as A) they are clean, B) not tight, or C) not sagging off my ass.

    Unlike some people, I do not wear my clothes in such a way that sends the wrong message about myself.

  • SAMURAI36

    Clearly we are no having the same discussion here.

    I mention “ancestral rules”, & you start talking about peacocks. Last I checked, peacocks are not our ancestors. Are they yours?

    But as for peacocks, the purpose of the features is to attract the females of the species. Clearly based on the comments here, male polish is not attractive to women by & large, so then what is the significance of it, based on your own example?

    As for men wearing sarongs, so do the women. As is the case for men in Africa & Asia, as I mentioned. But regardless, the gender roles between the sexes are still respected in those areas, which goes against your point.

  • YOUL

    forget about the french tips-why isnt any one talking about how snoop looks old as moses

  • YOUL

    i beleive this is why his nails are painted and he’s so stoned it” take 2 weeks for him to figure it out

  • Give It a Rest

    I believe that rappers and a lot of young black males (particularly those on the DL) envy women, envy our ability to be feminine without judgment or shame, that is why they have so much hate speech for us and are constantly throwing shade at our hair and bodies. Just like catty jealous women.

  • Give It a Rest

    Look at these so called hetero men defending their right to wear nail polish. Ya’ll are being brainwashed by this modern society. Okay, of course you have the right to wear a pretty french manicure as a man and we have the right to assume you may not be fully hetero.

  • SAMURAI36

    This is just another example of the social ideals that have gotten misinterpreted, like “equality” & “freedom”.

    Equality is about how you get treated, not how you are perceived.

    Men/women, blacks/whites, rich/poor, fat/skinny people, etc are equal, because one is not “less than” another. It doesn’t mean that their characteristics are, or were ever meant to be the same.

  • Nakia

    You are conflating male/female aesthetic expectations with gender equality. Women can do everything men can do (aesthetically)? So, women can stop removing hair from their faces, legs, under arms, etc. and still be considered feminine? Wear men’s clothing and not be considered lesbian? I don’t think so. For the record, I am a woman and a man could not touch me with painted nails, just like he couldn’t kiss me wearing lipstick. And Snoop has been ridiculous for a loooong time.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    You have every right to decide what kinds of style or fashion or adornment YOU consider attractive – and if your comments had been about your personal preferences, I would have not disputed you. (I’m “recognizing”, not “granting” any rights here, btw.. just want to be precise…) You even have the right to decide that you prefer your partners to have a particular ethnic heritage and skin pigmentation.

    My objection to your arguments here involves your support for – and your effort to speak on behalf of – society’s “aesthetic expectations”… and your obvious comfort with the idea of judging someone (“CONSIDERED lesbian..”) based on how they look. This is particularly heartbreaking to me since you have identified yourself as black, so your nearest ancestors dealt with a form of “aesthetic expectations” that was expressed by signs saying “coloreds only” – marriage license “blood tests” designed to prevent “miscegenation” – black men murdered for daring to speak to white women…

    I KNOW, that compared to the experience of blacks in the USA, the prejudices against men wearing nail color are inconsequential. But they are both prejudices, the difference is a matter of degree. The magnitude of the difference is roughly equivalent to the difference between the 9/11 WTC murders, and fishing without a license – but that does not justify prejudice.

    My point is that NO prejudice is acceptable by our society. I like to paint my nails. If YOU find that unattractive, that’s really OK – but don’t claim that society is upholding some noble virtue by its arbitrary definition of nail color as “feminine”, its scorn and ridicule of men who adopt this “feminine” fashion and its assumption that these men are “probably gay”. “Feminine” is a personality trait, not a property of inanimate objects like paint – and I believe that NOBODY is purely “masculine” or “feminine”, we all have some of each – and that’s a good thing. “Gay” is a sexual preference, and there is nothing wrong with being gay. So, neither “feminine” nor “gay” are derogatory terms – and it is prejudicial and bigoted to use them as derogatives. When you participate in the scorn, ridicule and assumption, YOU ARE PROMOTING PREJUDICE AND INTOLERANCE. That is all.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    What is “natural” about “rules for gender” that dictate how I may dress or adorn myself? I mentioned the peacock to illustrate that Nature has no opposition to brightly colored males. As for “ancestral” rules… follow your heritage all you want – conform to any set of prejudices you like – but what gives you, or society, the right to expect me to conform to them, or to judge me if I don’t?

  • SAMURAI36

    Steve, there is much about your post that I (& others, I’m sure) find quite disagreeable.

    Firstly, it is erroneous to say that she cannot speak for society at large, if A) she is a member of said society, & B) her view on the matter is a prevailing one.

    The reality is, as is demonstrated in this discussion, you & those like you, that share your view & preference, are in the gross minority. Hers is the privilege of right; yours is the burden of acceptance. Until or unless society changes, then you are operating on the fringes of the general social ideals.

    Second, “feminine” & “masculine” are not personality traits, as you erroneously refer to them. They are quantifiable biological, scientific, & even spiritual/metaphysical concepts. The fact that you have to go to great lengths to deny/ignore these truths in order to accept the deviant “style” you have chosen, says quite a bit.

    And lastly, she is not promoting anything of the sort. The is merely promoting her right to express her feelings on the matter. She has not told you or any one else that you cannot wear male polish, or tried to restrict you in any way from doing so. Nor has she mistreated you for your choice.

    But just as it is your right to this practice, it is also her right to vocalize her disapproval of it. She doesn’t owe you anything. She doesn’t have to accept it, nor you. No one does.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Nakia – I owe you an apology, some of what I wrote above is intended for “SAMURAI36″. To answer your questions directly:
    “Women can do everything men can do (aesthetically)?”
    Yes.

    “women can stop removing hair from their faces, legs, under arms, etc. and still be considered feminine?”
    Yes. As I define “feminine” – caring, nurturing, generous, kind, friendly, peaceful, artistic, graceful, elegant, and virtuous – the presence or absence of body hair does not influence my consideration of a person’s femininity.

    “Wear men’s clothing and not be considered lesbian?”
    Yes. As I define “lesbian” – “a woman who is sexually attracted only to other women” – a woman’s clothing does not indicate her sexual preference. If I saw a woman flirting with another woman, I would assume that she might be lesbian – and I would admire her courage in openly defying society’s expectations and facing its scorn and derision.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    “Give it a rest” – in my view, the “brainwashing” is:
    - the idea that paint is “feminine” (femininity is a set of personality traits, not properties of inanimate objects)
    - the idea that my nails are “feminine” when they have paint on them. (some colors are considered feminine, and some styles (glitter, graphic designs, maybe french tips) – but there are masculine colors and masculine designs too (just look at the paint on the cars at any vintage car cruise-in))
    - the idea that men should never do anything “feminine”, (instead of painting their nails, they should paint their bare chests in sub-zero weather at football games.. they should paint their vintage car candy-apple red with flames..)
    - the idea that “feminine is bad”
    - the idea that “a man who does anything ‘feminine’ is probably gay”
    - the idea that “it’s bad for a man to be gay”
    - the idea that society has a right to expect men to conform to specific rules of dress or behavior, and to ostracize them if they don’t conform.

    When society’s rules make sense and serve some legitimate purpose, I’m happy to follow them. But the only “justification” I’ve seen here for the expectation that I should have bare nails, is the claim that “society expects it”.

  • SAMURAI36

    I don’t”expect ” you to do anything, beyond what you are already doing. But I absolutely have every single right to think about, & judge any & everything I wish to judge. Just as you have every right not to accept my judgment.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    “Second, “feminine” & “masculine” are not personality traits, as you erroneously refer to them. They are quantifiable biological, scientific, & even spiritual/metaphysical concepts. The fact that you have to go to great lengths to deny/ignore these truths in order to accept the deviant “style” you have chosen, says quite a bit.”

    OK. What “biological” aspect of nail paint makes it “feminine” (every bottle I own has two little balls, I call them “testicles”… ;)? What biological aspect of your fingernails makes them “feminine” or “masculine”? (they are pure keratin, there is no DNA within fingernails – a scientist could not distinguish between a man’s and a woman’s nail clippings. In German, “fingernail” is a feminine noun… and “toenail” is a masculine noun – even when “he” is on a woman’s foot (or, maybe I have that backwards…)? What “scientific” property of nail paint makes it “feminine” (I checked some ingredient labels – there is no estrogen or progesterone in the formulas)? What “spiritual concept” is inherent to nail paint which makes it “feminine”? What “metaphysical concept” makes nail paint “feminine”? Those concepts – your “truths” – have no relationship whatsoever to nail color. If they did, you would have to also say that a woman WITHOUT nail color is “masculine”.

    You really have said nothing except “Society says nail color is feminine, because society says it is”. I say that is a prejudice in society, nothing more – and when faced with a prejudice, my choices are: support it by conforming to it, support it by pretending it isn’t there, oppose it by supporting those who defy it, or oppose it by defying it myself. Galileo was convicted of heresy (speaking contrary to the majority’s beliefs) and threatened with execution – for saying that the Earth is round and orbits the Sun, when the majority believed the opposite.

    WHAT IF “this is feminine” is as popular a belief – and as inaccurate – as “Earth is flat, and is fixed, motionless, at the center of the Universe”? IF there is no inherent femininity to nail color, then the phenomenon of men wearing it wouldn’t be “feminization”, and just maybe, it might not destroy society if men started wearing it on a regular basis.

    The only “great lengths” I have had to go to, to accept my own preference for painting my nails, is to see nail paint for what it really is – merely, only, just paint. OTOH, to justify your prejudice against men wearing nail color, you have claimed “feminization” and “emasculation” of men, predicted the destruction of society (Really?), and referenced (without making any logical connection) a bunch of nebulous concepts. Who is going to the greater lengths here?

    MY masculinity is secure enough that it is not threatened by a few drops of paint, nor is it defined by the prejudiced opinions of others. If the WHOLE WORLD saw my nails painted and thought less of me for it, that would not change who I am – not one bit. I wear my nail color with boldness, confidence and defiance, secure in my knowledge that it does not “make me” anything, it does not define me any more than the people who see me define me.

    I see the alternative as timid conformity to arbitrary societal rules, following the herd, letting others think for me and tell me what’s OK for me to wear, afraid of invoking the herd’s disapproval, dependent upon the herd’s confirmation and validation of my masculinity. No thanks – that doesn’t sound like masculinity at all.

    To me, boldness, confidence, independence, security, and defiance are all very masculine personality traits. Cowardice, compliance, submission, dependence, insecurity and fear are all unmanly personality traits. Compassion, nurturing, empathy, kindness, peacefulness, generosity, and creativity are all “feminine” personality traits. But, even here the labels “masculine” and “feminine” are arbitrary – any person can have any of the traits listed above, we all have each to some degree, the labels merely help us to understand how each of us balances the masculine and feminine aspects of our personalities.

    I think a major problem in society is polarization – the idea that one must be exclusively masculine or feminine in accordance with their anatomy, the idea that masculine and feminine exist in opposition and hostility to each other, and the idea that it is “bad”, “dangerous”, or “societally destructive” for a member of either gender to express any traits of the other gender.

    Ultimately, doesn’t society have bigger problems to deal with than dictating how people decorate themselves?

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    I don’t understand the whole saggy pants trend. But, I don’t have to understand it to respect their right to do it.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Women are not treated with disrespect for wearing nail color, or for not wearing it. ALL I’m asking for is equality: to be not treated with disrespect for wearing nail color, or for not wearing it.

  • James

    @SAMURAI36, it would seem that you think can speak for most women. My personal experience is completely the opposite. I have had a number of women say the wish they could get their boyfriend or husband to wear polish. My well taken care of feet are much nicer to look at or smell than some gnarly stinky uncared for feet of a lot of guys. People like you probably bitched back when guys started to wear earrings. Now it is common place. Cloths worn in the late 70′s, if worn now, you would be saying that guy was gay. Fashion changes, maybe you are just too closed minded to accept change.

  • James

    If someone doesn’t like a guy wearing polish, don’t date him. I don’t like women who wear too much makeup, smoke or wear huge hooker hoops, so I won’t date them. We all have the right to like whatever we want, but why do we have to judge those that don’t fit into our personal likes? If it doesn’t float you boat, move on.

  • SAMURAI36

    Of you think that the majority of BLACK women are going to be checking for a man with polish on their nails, then you are truly delusional.

    Also, good hygiene (“gnarly, stinky feet”, as you call it) has nothing to do with painting one’s nails. So that is a bad comparison.

    My feet don’t drink, dude. And my toe & finger nails are well clipped, filed & mani/pedicured. But that’s a far cry from putting a woman’s paint on them.

    Men like you, & the women who approve of you are in the gross minority.

    I used to wear an earring myself. You see, an earring in the left ear of a man, is actually an African custom.

    Many of the styles worn in the 70′s/80′s were gay then, & they are just as gay now.

    See, what you & a few others here fail to realize, is that nobody has to accept what you do & wear. We don’t have to like it, & we can call it whatever we want–gay, or otherwise.

    If you don’t like it, well then that’s your problem.

  • SAMURAI36

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070805092509AAN0MDm
    You should stop with the pseudo-science. Nails themselves do not contain DNA, but the base of the nail does. Same with hair.
    As far as what’s in nail polish, there may not be estrogen in it, but there definitely is formaldehyde in it–something that is grossly unhealthy for both men & women. But that’s the case for most cosmetic products: hair products, make up, lipstick, perfumes, etc.
    Didn’t your German scientists tell you that?
    Speaking of, the fact that you continue to mention Germans, Galileo, & other European notions, such as “the world is flat”, (you realize that Africans & Asians knew the truth of this, before your precious white folks did?) explains alot of things about you, including your deviation from the natural order.
    Your ignorance of spiritual & metaphsyical concepts is appalling. These are not “my truths” as you so ignorantly call them.
    http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/trigrams/bigpattern.htm
    Color, & how the brain perceives it, corresponds to the EM spectrum. Africans & Asians were intimately familiar with this, & they incorporated this knowledge into their cultural practices.
    There are masculine & feminine aspects to the human brain. Certain colors appeal to those aspects.
    The Chakras correspond to colors, masculine & feminine. Ying & Yang, light & dark: masculine & feminine.
    Protons & electrons: masculine & feminine.
    Get your head out of Galileo’s butt, & stop sniffing that nail polish, & perhaps you might gain a better understanding of what I am speaking of here.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    @ SAMURAI36 – I will agree with you, that I am “deviating from” or defying the “natural order” by painting my fingernails – because within the natural order, nobody’s fingernails grow with paint already applied, and the nails are not produced with colors (unlike hair and feathers). Of course, everybody who paints their nails – male or female – is defying the natural order by placing a substance on them which does not occur there naturally. It could be said that indigenous peoples who weave feather headdresses or wear animal furs are also defying the natural order – perhaps “defiance of the natural order” is one of the things that makes us human.

    As for formaldehyde – nail lacquers do not “definitely” contain formaldehyde. Since about 2006, most prominent brands of nail polish have been advertised as being “3-Free”, referring to the absence of formaldehyde, toluene and dibutyl pthalate from their formulas. Some advertise “4-Free”, which adds “no camphor” to the list. Off-brands, especially those produced overseas, sometimes contain these chemicals.

    Thank you for the link to the “Colorpattern of the trigrams” webpage. I already considered green and blue to be masculine colors, and I am pleased to see on your source that red is also identified as masculine.

    Thank you also for the link to the Yahoo Answers page “Do fingernails contain genetic material?”. Will you agree that the only part of the fingernail that people paint is the hard nail plate, they do not paint the living cells underneath? When I speak of the characteristics of fingernails, I refer to the hard nail plate, not the cells that manufacture it – in the same way that my descriptions of the properties of an automobile are not descriptions of the facility where it was made. Based on the description in the source you cite, I restate my claim, modified for clarity: The part of the fingernail that people actually paint, contains no DNA and is therefore indistinguishable between women and men.

    I am intrigued by your mention of “Yin and Yang”, and your point that “There are masculine & feminine aspects to the human brain.” You seem to be echoing my point that:
    “I think a major problem in society is polarization – the idea that one must be exclusively masculine or feminine in accordance with their anatomy, the idea that masculine and feminine exist in opposition and hostility to each other, and the idea that it is “bad”, “dangerous”, or “societally destructive” for a member of either gender to express any traits of the other gender.”

    It is obvious to me that we will not agree on the basic question here. That is OK. I know that many people do not accept the idea that men can wear nail color as men without betraying their masculinity. I think you would be surprised by how many people I’ve met who DO accept – even compliment – my nail color. I’ve also met people who reacted negatively at first, but after some time and thought, they recognized the inherent prejudices in their reactions and they discarded those prejudices. I believe the world becomes a little better – and society becomes a little stronger – whenever anyone finds and discards one of their prejudices. I hope, but doubt, that I will live to see a world without prejudice… but I am confident that I will see nail color in widespread use by both genders, and to me, that is a step forward.

  • SAMURAI36

    @Steve:

    Much of your responses seem to be based on trying to justify your reasonings. Why? You seem to be seeking validation, rather than sepf-acceptance. If you like what you see when you look in the mirror, if your spouse likes it, if you get all these compliments as you say, then what does it matter what anyone else says?

    It just It seems as though you are trying to push an agenda here.

    I clearly do not agree with your seemingly Eurocentric approach to nature & science. For instance, you list peacocks as an example, which is not the best one. To my knowledge, peacocks do not pain their feathers, they are born with them that way, so they are following the natural laws.

    You mentioned people wearing animal skins, as if this is a deviation from nature. There are animals that take on the outer shells of other creatures. Crustaceans, for instance.

    I do not find external augmentation to be necessarily unnatural, per se. Lots of creatures sharpen their horns or claws against trees or stones. But they are doing it for utilitarian purposes, & not cosmetic ones; to protect themselves from the elements, to defend themselves against predators, or to become better ones.

    Personally, I am not a fan of cosmetic products that don’t serve a hygienical or perhaps even ceremonial (cultural or spiritual) purpose. But I respect women’sright to wear it, within the feminine cultural paradigm.

    Arguing the ingredients of nail polish seems futile. Even if formaldehyde is not present (how sad that you take these white folks’ word for it; they’ve been known to lie about what’s in the stuff they make before), that doesn’t mean that nothing else in the bottle isn’t toxic.

    They say it’s”3-free”, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t contain another set of toxic chemicals. It just may not contain the set that you are familiar with. White folks are good with that verbal sleight of hand, & Negroes just eat it up. Anything to help you sleep at night, I suppose.

    You seem to be misinterpreting the concept of Yin & Yang, which is not surprising, since you seem to interpret much of the world thru a Eurocentric lens. The Tao is not about polarization, but what you are failing to realize, is that the answer to that is not deviation either.

    The Tao is about recognizing the complementary aspects of all things, while also recognizing & honoring the boundaries between them. There is nothing in what you are doing that represents that, in regards to painting your nails.

    That much is clear, when you think that masculine & feminine are preconceived notions.

    Also, you continue to talk about “prejudice” & you do so erroneously. The root word of “prejudice” is “pre-judge”. I have not prejudged anything nor anyone. I have made a judgment based on the knowledge that I have on the subject. Nothing you’ve presented has swayed that knowledge.

    A wise man once said: “do what you want, & say what you feel… Those that matter, won’t mind, & those that mind, don’t matter.”

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Samurai: In your last comment you kindly explained that “prejudice” is derived from “pre judge” – and claimed that you have not pre-judged here.

    But your first comment on this column says:

    “Wow, we are living in a world where the man’s man is slowly becoming a dinosaur, and the homo male is now the standard.”

    “homo” is a derogatory reference to people who have a homosexual orientation. But this column wasn’t about – doesn’t even mention – anybody’s sexual orientation. The column was about Snoop and his finger paint. So, in the context you used “homo”, you were clearly demeaning the men who would wear nail color by claiming – in a derogatory way – that they must be gay. It is impossible for you to have specific information about the sexual preferences of every man who wears nail color. So, you judged men like me BEFORE you knew anything about our sexual preferences. “Judging… before..” is “pre-judging” – and that is prejudice.

    You have insisted that you have the right to say anything you want – and you do – but that right does not negate the fact that what you did say, was prejudicial.

    I can not claim to know the sexual orientation of every man who wears nail polish. But I know my own orientaion, and it is not dictated, defined or displayed by my nail color. I also know of several male celebrities who wear nail color and who I can assume are either straight or bi (i.e., not gay) based on the fact that they are either married to, or have had LTRs with, women:
    Johnny Depp has 2 kids with Vanessa Paredes (7 year LTR)
    Seal was married to Heidi Klum
    Len Wiseman is married to Kate Beckinsale
    Dean McDermott is married to Tori Spelling
    Cash Warren is married to Jessica Alba
    David Beckham is married to Victoria Beckham
    Steven Tyler is twice-married, and father to Liv Tyler
    Ozzy Osbourne is married to Sharon Osbourne
    etc..

    Of course, I could make a list of gay men who wear/wore nail color (and, a longer list of gay men who don’t..) – but that list isn’t relevant to my dispute with your claim that “a man wearing french tips” somehow equates to “homo male is becoming the standard”.

    Also, I never said that the Tao uses Yin and Yang to describe polarization – I am pretty sure that the idea of Yin/Yang is that everybody has some of each, masculine AND feminine, within them, and that the process of self-improvement involves recognizing, accepting and balancing both forces in their lives. Where does the insult “homo” fit into the Tao?

  • SAMURAI36

    @ Steve:

    1) You continue to prove my point about your Eurocentric-influenced perceptions. With the exception of Seal (whom I will address momentarily), your entire list consists of soft, feminine, weirdo, Hollywood white men. Do you know the European, Greco-Roman origins of homosexuality?
    2) You do realize, that Hollywood is notorious for its closet homosexual lifestyle, yes?

    3) Just because these men were/are married, does not lean they are incapable of engaging is homo/bisexual behavior. Ever heard of being on the down-low? Again, refer back to point #2.

    4) It’s sad that Seal is the only example of a black man that you could cite here. nd even he is not that great of an example… Like you, he seems to be totally immersed in European culture, & hasn’t seemed to publicly embrace his African heritage, since he left the Mother continent.

    These are your examples??? Is this the type of man you aspire to be like? Where are your examples of the strong, virile, upright black male that we need more of in our communities, rather than the weak, slack-jawed, round-shouldered, soft-voiced, nail polish wearing men, that we see far too many of?

    As for the Tao, indeed it recognizes that we all have aspects of the opposite gender in us. How could we not? We were birthed from both sexes.

    However, the Tao does NOT condone homosexuality, nor does it condone the notion of the emasculated man, that you seen to be pushing for.

    I can almost guarantee, that the ancient Taoists of China were not wearing fingernail polish, or doing anything remotely feminine

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Samurai… “The Tao does not condone homosexuality” – OK… aside from you, who here is talking about homosexuality? I thought we were talking about our fingernails, not our sexual preferences. The only thing I have ever said here about homosexuality is that sexual preference is NOT RELATED to nail color. Sort of like how skin color is not related to intelligence. Your insistence that nail color has some connection with sexual orientation, is every bit as prejudiced, intolerant and bigoted as any redneck’s claim that a person’s skin color indicates their intelligence. (And, the argument that “many people share my view”, proves only that many people are prejudiced, it does not prove the existence of a real connection between nail paint and sexual orientation.)

    Incidentally… you keep using “Eurocentric” and “white folks” as derogatories.. displaying additional prejudices on your part.

    I will confess that I aspire to date (more of a wish, really) Kate Beckinsale, Jessica Alba, Heidi Klum, Vanessa Paredes, and/or Victoria Beckham – but that is as far as my “aspir[ation] to be like” the men I listed, goes. I don’t aspire to be like anybody else – I aspire to be a unique individual with my own unique style. Maybe that’s the real point here. You have been arguing that “real men” should submit and conform to a social order (you called it “natural order”) that prohibits some people from decorating themselves with nail paint solely on account of their gender. I have argued that THIS PART of the social order is sexist, oppressive, and serves no legitimate social purpose. You have been implicitly arguing for a definition of “masculinity” that depends on the approval of the herd – that a male who does everything his buddies do, fears doing anything he doesn’t see them doing, never thinks for himself, never questions what he is told is “OK” – is “masculine”.

    Believe me, I understand – IN YOUR MIND (and anyone who shares your prejudice), my nail color is “feminine”, “emasculating” and “makes me less of a man”. That’s OK. What you fail to understand is that my reality is not defined by what’s in your mind. My masculinity is not threatened by your disapproval. I don’t judge my value as a person by my willingness to conform to society’s BS expectations.

    As for “other black male examples” – I didn’t list Dwyane Wade or Snoop because I don’t know their relationship status and didn’t care to look it up. I also didn’t list Snoop, because that would have been redundant (since the column was originally about Snoop’s french tips, and whether male polish will be a new trend)

  • SAMURAI36

    @ Steve:

    I notice that you cherry-pick the points & statements of mine that you wish to respond to. I made it quite clear, what the Tao does & does not condone
    But in case my position was not clear enough: homosexuality, & other acts are deviations from the natural order. And yes, this includes men wearing male polish, cross dressing, etc.
    Now, does that all these things are on the same tier or level? Of course not. Just as the person who eats donuts or cookies or ice cream a few times a week, is not the same severity, as say, the person who smokes crack or pops X-pills. They are both examples of someone putting something very unhealthy in their bodies; dough, grease, sugar & formaldehyde are just as toxic as cocaine, formaldehyde & other chemicals in drugs. One will kill you faster than the other, but that doesn’t make the “slower” act any less significant.
    You seem to think that there is no natural order to anything, as you superimposed “social order” upon natural order. Yeah, you have fun with that.
    Also, it’s a falsehood that our heritage is not directly linked to how people process info, which is all “intelligence” is. But, you seek to be in the dark about your African heritage (should I even be assuming that you are Black at all?). People with melanin tend to be more right-brained than people with less melanin, who tend to be more left-brained. Since the pineal gland in our brains are responsible for creating melanin in the first place, the connection between the two is quite academic. But this isn’t something your Galileo, & the other ignorant, “they thought the world was flat” white scholars would know, so it’s no surprise that you don’t know it.
    For that matter, you spend alot of time regurgitating post-modern Eurocentric ideas.
    For example:
    “I don’t aspire to be like anybody else – I aspire to be a unique individual with my own unique style.”
    How absurd. Everybody aspires to be like someone, at least to some extent. I strive to be like my father, who was hard working, & a great provider for his family. Christians strive to be more Christ-Like. In Africa, our people strive to be more like our ancestors, who were wise & strong. What, you never had a role model in your life? Someone you looked up to?
    It’s obvious to me that you haven’t, aside from the white people & the one sellout Negro that you aspire to be like. Which is obviously the case, lest you would not have named Heidi Klum, & these other god-awful white women that you confessed to desire, the same as Seal did.
    However your response that basically amounted to “why not? Johnny Dep & Seal & Ozzy do it too!” shows that you do take cues from others.
    You would do well to admit to yourself, that you view the world thru European eyes. Everything you have said here demonstrates that, & as such, painting your nails is the least of your issues.
    Another example: using the term “herd”. Another term a white man would say. Where you see a group of animals (which is all a herd is), I see a community.
    The fact that you have deviated from said community, & the natural order that they strive to uphold, is definitely a symptom of the European mindset that you seem to suffer from.
    Why on earth would you list Dwayne Wade & Snoop as examples??? I asked for examples of STRONG black men. Neither of these men fit that description, in my eyes–Snoop even less so; the dude has been perm his hair since his days with the Dogg Pound, so it should come as no surprise to anyone that he’d be getting his nails done too. That is what women do, don’t they? Get their hair & nails “did”, all in the same trip. Snoop’s womanhood has been bursting to come out for years. His high pitched voice, subtle feminine movements (neck rolling, & switching when he walks), it should come as no surprise to anyone, it if were revealed that he was gay, or at least bi.
    Also, you throw around words like “prejudiced & bigoted” in virtually every one of your responses, as if they have some sort of market value. I can assure you, these words mean nothing to me in the slightest. No more than me citing various native cultural concepts apparently means anything to you. Good thing more people than just is are reading this, or our efforts would be am exercise in futility.
    It seems to me, that you are seeking some sort of acceptance or validation for your deviant behavior. Er go, anyone that doesn’t agree with your practice is a “bigot” much in the same vein that anyone that doesn’t agree with the premise of the homosexual lifestyle is somehow “homophobic” (another grammatical non-sequitur used as a counterattack against those that don’t agree with the deviance). Or when people say “oh, you’re just a hater”.
    I’ve already shown you that I’m not pre-judging anything; I do not have a phobia (which is a clinical fear) of homosexuals, & the things that you & others do, do not evoke an irrational emotional response (i.e. “hate”) within me.
    None of these terms you or anyone else throw out, have any power over me.
    You may want to take some time out to ponder why what other people think & feel about what you do, has so much power over you.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Samurai – the assumption that I am Black, would be inaccurate. The eyes through which I see the world are 1/4 Italian, 1/4 Russian, plus Hungarian, Czech, Greek and Anglo-Saxon. But, I don’t believe that the value of a philosophy or scientific theory is dependent upon where it (or its proponent, or its hearer) originates. The ONLY reason I mentioned Galileo was to provide an example of how the “prevailing opinion” in society is sometimes very wrong.

    You claim that you have “already shown you that I’m not pre-judging anything” – but you merely SAID that. What you’ve shown is a definite bias against “homo”s, “white folks”, “sellout negroes”, men who don’t conform to your standard of “strong, virile” manhood, and “Eurocentric” science and philosophy.

    I differentiate between “social order” and “natural order”, because I see very little in human life that corresponds to the way Nature intends for us to live. You were born naked – and unless you pick your clothes fully formed from a clothing tree, all of what you wear is artificial (made by man, not made by nature). Most of the food that most people eat is cooked – in the natural order, foods are uncooked. In the natural order, males of many species have evolved brightly colored or decorative features – the lion’s mane, the tails of peacocks and roosters, the tusks of bull elephants and the horns of bulls, bucks and rams… Your only point against brightly decorated male humans, was that the natural examples I gave, serve to attract females – but among humans, brightly colored male nails won’t be attractive to most women. To that, I’d add “YES, to the extent that they share your prejudice.” You’ve said that it is not “natural” for men to wear nail color, I say that “natural” isn’t relevant here, because it isn’t “natural” for ANY human to paint their nails.

    It is not natural, but it is customary, for women to paint their nails – and you have no major objection to that.
    It is not natural, and it is not customary, for men to paint their nails – and you obviously find this highly offensive. So, I conclude that your objection is based not on violation of “natural order” but on violation of “customs” – in other words, “social order”.

    You speak of our different perceptions of groups – “herd” versus “community”. I recognize “community” – it literally means “united in common”, and to me, a community is characterized by the mutual respect, cooperation and fairness of its members toward each other. When I see people working together for a common purpose, respecting individual differences and even learning from each other’s unique attributes and points of view – that’s when I see “community”. BUT – when I see a social structure where individuals are expected to conform, where they are intimidated from thinking for themselves and required to submit to the group’s collective will, where people blindly follow a perceived consensus without ever questioning the merit of what they are expected to do – then, I don’t see a community, I see a herd – I see people ACTING LIKE sheep.

    Do you own your body, or does your community own it? If your body is the property of your group, then the group has the right to tell you how to decorate it. I own my body. I accept no group’s “authority” to dictate how I will decorate my OWN body, and I am personally offended by any suggestion that any group has a legitimate right to expect me to conform to its aesthetic mandates. The enforcement of that oppressive mandate takes many forms – one of them is ridicule and derision, “(if you don’t conform) you must be a homo”. That is how your prejudice (nail color + man = “homo”) is offensive to me, and should be offensive to anyone.

  • SAMURAI36

    @ Steve:

    “Samurai – the assumption that I am Black, would be inaccurate. The eyes through which I see the world are 1/4 Italian, 1/4 Russian, plus Hungarian, Czech, Greek and Anglo-Saxon.”

    Now all this makes perfect sense. Nothing about you was adding up, until you revealed this crucial piece of info about yourself. No wonder you couldn’t tell me about “any strong black men”… You simply do not know any.

    And the lesson to be learned here, my Black brethren & sistren, is that there will always be those that seek to come amongst us, to infiltrate us, not for the purpose of learning about us, but to further their agenda.

    As black man myself, I journey to this site dedicated to Black women, to learn more about my sisters, so that I can be a better brother to my sisters, a better king to my queens, a better protector to my nurturers.

    I continue to take for granted, as do we all, that there are those that use the anonymity of the internet to disguise themselves & their agenda.

    How sad it is, that we can have nothing of our own, or that we would have to ask ask individual “are you even black?” before conversing with them. However, this is a betrayal of trust that is not at all uncommon, from those the likes of this particular individual.

    And with that, kind sir, I shall bid you adieu. Expect no further responses from my person on this matter.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Kay – your comment is just outstanding! Thank you!

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Samurai – I admit that I didn’t come here to “learn about Black women”. I didn’t even know that this site is “dedicated to Black women”… in fact, nothing on the page I’m looking at says that it is. And, since there was no “I declare that I am Black” button to push when I posted comments, I see no “betrayal of trust” in my coming here to DEFEND MYSELF from your attack.

    I came here to dispute your claim that men wearing nail color are “homo”.

    You say “Nothing about you was adding up, until you revealed this crucial piece of [racial] info about yourself.” CRUCIAL? We’ve gone from “Judge, not by the color of skin, but by the content of character”, to “[your skin color is] crucial [to judging whether your comments (about body art or homosexuality) have merit]“? Is that REALLY the position you want to uphold?

    But, what the hell – go ahead and declare victory, announce that it’s OK to disregard everything I said, judge my comments as invalid BASED ON THE COLOR OF MY SKIN. I’m sure Dr. King would be proud!

  • SAMURAI36

    @ Steve:
    I know I said I wouldn’t respond again, & I do plan to stick to that declaration, after I make this one exception:

    How’s this for content of character: YOU ARE A LIAR.

    You have been on this site for the better part of a week now, “defending yourself against my attack”, & clearly you are intelligent enough to craft long, carefully detailed arguments & rebuttal, but you aren’t smart enough to browse the site, in order to get a better understanding f who you are dealing with? You can’t tell this is a black women’s site, from all the pictures & topics about nothing but Black women???

    So what… Did you just decide to wake up one day, & go on an attack-defending mission, & google “men wearing nail polish under attack”, & this site popped up under the listings? Do you go all around the internet, defending yourself?

    I don’t believe you. You knew this was a black women’s site, just like you knew that I was under the impression that you were a Black man. So, me talking about “our African ancestors”, or me calling you a “sellout Negro” wasn’t a hint??

    You had every opportunity to say “hey man, I’m not a black man, sellout or otherwise”. So now, you can break down every intricate percentage of Euro blood that flows thru your veins, but it never once occurred to you to say “just FYI, I’m a white guy??”

    Of course not. Instead, in typical European fashion, you wanted me to continue to believe you were something that you are not.

    By all means, continue to show us your true color(s), but please quit pretending that you are stupid. It’s a out as unbecoming as you acting as if I am.

    This is why many Black people are mistrustful of white people. Same ol’ lies & deceptions; it never changes.

    Oh, & speaking of “prejudice”, why on earth would you prejudge me, by thinking that I am a proponent of Dr. King’s ideology?? What, in anything I have said, would lead you to that ASS-umption about me? So what, all black folk believe in Dr. King’s dream? Once again, your true color(s) is showing.

    Bottom line: take your snake oil (i.e. your “white” lies, & your gay nail polish), & peddle it elsewhere, white boy. In case you can’t tell, most of us here are not buying what you are selling.

    So feel free to cough up a last response. Nothing you have or will say, has or will matter to me. At the end of the day, you are still just a gay white weirdo to me.
    So now “Dr. King” that.

  • http://lacquerman.blogspot.com Steve Winfield

    Samurai – actually, I found your comments on this column when a friend of mine on Facebook sent me a link to it.

    I never claimed that you adhere to Dr King’s philosophy. I cited King, because I respect what he taught, and (irony coming here..) because I am a member of a society in which a prevailing view is that King’s philosophy represents an appropriate standard (or at least, a goal) for human interactions, and therefore I can speak on behalf of that society to urge your compliance with that standard. (And, FWIW, you promoted the Tao in pretty much the exact same way that I promoted King’s philosophy. So what?)

    I’m sorry that I missed the part where you called me a “sellout Negro” – I honestly thought you were applying that tag to Seal. FWIW, you missed the part where I referred to “YOUR heritage” instead of, say, “OUR heritage” – that should have been a clue about my race – if my race is relevant in this discussion.

    NOBODY has said that you ever have to wear nail color. Nobody has said that you have to like the fact that other men wear it. Nobody has said that you must remain silent about your opinion. ALL I have said, really, is that it is none of your business – or society’s business – whether I wear nail color or not. You (by which I mean the “vast majority” that you claim agrees with you) do not own me, and have no right to dictate how I decorate my own body.

    As far as the support you claim to have on this thread – I’ve noticed that nobody has stepped up to support any of your arguments here, or to dispute mine.

  • Robbie

    I did not know this was a black women’s site. I saw a link in my twitter talking about us men and nail polish and here I am. Oh well. For the record, I am black, I have a black wife, and black kids. ;-) Oh and I wear nail polish. In the black community. NOT AN ISSUE.

  • http://Www.male-decoded.blogspot.com Chis

    I loveeeee Snoop but hate the nails. The manicure is not G and it’s not masculine. Basically the author is co signing that she wants a effeminate man! No man should ever get a French mani like this. A man should get a soft manicure consisting of, something he can do himself or have his significant other do. For example, clipping his nails, cleaning underneath the nails, and buffing if he wants a natural man. No woman should be attracted to any man wearing nail polish nor a French tip. Lol

    Snoop dog has lost his mind!

    As for as the girl saying gender doesn’t exist and women can do what men do and vice versa. See that’s the reason our men are emasculated today and the reason why many sistahs are single. We don’t live in a feminist society anymore. Women have proven their equality, let a man be a man and let a woman be a woman. I have no problem admitting men can do things that I can’t and I can do things that they can’t either.

  • http://clutch Brandy Bee

    Hes a Freakin gay person nd needs to admit it …snoop grew up in BC he know he confusing kids & adults w thw fckery Men should do guy things and woman woman stuff

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