Letters To The Editor: Clutch Supports LBGTQ Issues & Will Continue To Post About Them

Washington D.C. residents Aisha Mills and Danielle Moodie became one of the first same-sex couples to apply for a marriage license in March 2010. They tied the knot in a glamorous garden wedding on August 7, 2010.

On a daily basis, along with Dede Sutton, I monitor the site, approve/disapprove comments, post articles and basically help make sure things are running smoothly. I post news articles that cover everything from politics, local news, black culture, and LBGTQ issues. It seems that the latter is occasionally frowned upon by some on this site. By frowned upon, I mean someone actually sent an “anonymous” email in response to the Brittney Griner “coming out” post from last week.

I won’t copy and paste the email from this “anonymous” reader, but I will answer the questions posed in the email:

A) Nope, straight as a ruler.

B) None of your business

C) Wow, do you really have that much time on your hands to email me “anonymously”?

I put anonymous in quotations, only because it wasn’t anonymous. Well, at least they thought it was. But since I’m a super sleuth when it comes to all things anonymous, I was able to find out little tidbits of information about the sender. They don’t call me Sherlock Homegirl for nothing. Next time, word of advice, find a better “anonymous email” client.

You see, here on Clutch, we the editors, support LBGTQ issues and recognize that these issues affect black women and men every day, whether some of you like it or not. Unlike Fox, who boasts their “fair and balanced” news, we try to actually invoke that throughout our site. We actually get the sads when we read comments from people who post things like, “Why are you forcing this down our throats?”. Forcing things down your throat is a little over the top. But I get it, some people have a fear of a gay planet. But it doesn’t mean we’re going to change anything about the subjects we post.

Clutch is not a site only for “progressive” HETEROSEXUAL black women. Clutch is a site for ALL black women, whether gay, straight, bi, tri…whatever label you want to wear, we support it. We’re not here to judge the way our readers live their lives, but things we won’t tolerate include homophobic comments and emails. Although we can’t control the “anonymous” emails, this will be the first and last response to them.

Maybe this will be an ongoing thing. Maybe we’ll take a minute to respond to emails and issues from the readers, but consider this issue closed.

  • Worldly

    Thank you! Please continue to support our LGBTQ sisters (and brothers). They are people too with real lives and real issues. Let us uplift and support them!!

  • AltheaG

    Thank you so much for posting this.

  • lol

    no problem with LGBTQ folk, just the black male trolls who come here to insult us. and “shawty the sweetie”.

    why won’t you guys do anything about them?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/BlkGurlPoly91 Sheree

    Okay… my problems with this post…
    Clearly this is a progressive leaning website, I’m not knocking that because at the end of the day you all are entitled to whatever opinion you have. However, when you hold your opinion over others opinion and treat it like it is fact… That’s a no no.
    Maybe this site is geared towards progressives more than to Black women, and if it is then please state that, because when I see Black women I see diversity. I see religious, athiests, agnostic, conservative, liberal, freethinkers, gay, strait…ect. We come from all walks of life, meaning, I as a Black women am not obligated to see homosexuality as you do. And if I do not see it as you do, it does not make me less of a person, or less conecerned with the overall progression of humanity. It’s called my opinion.
    Now like I said, if you are strictly doing this site for progressive Black women, then I’m all for that. Please let me know. Because I didn’t start tuning into this site because I needed someone to tell me how to think. I wanted to be exposed to Black women issues.
    Personally I think the debate that Black issues and gay issues are one in the same is just that, a debate. I personally do not feel that, but I’m open to hear why you feel it is and to question why it is I feel it isn’t. However, when your approach is, it is and if you don’t think so then your wrong… that’s where I get turned off.

  • http://www.twitter.com/tiabia TiaBia

    I just wanted to finish this post up with a: BOOM!

  • http://www.clutchmagazine.com Clutch

    Thanks for your comment :) We have and will continue too. We delete comments when reported or when we see them. But, we get a lot of comments and only 2 people are running the site daily – it’s hard to catch everything – but we do our best.

    Thanks.

  • Ask_ME

    How hard is it to hit the block button???

    There are several people that come to this site on a daily basis and insult the women here simply because they don’t like their comments. Yet with the exception of “Chillyroad” I have yet to see any of these individuals blocked.

  • Fantastico

    Part of the argument in the article is that black issues and gay issues effect black women because there are black women who are lgbtq…since they are here to serve all black women they will not exclude any of us.

  • http://www.clutchmagazine.com Clutch

    We have blocked them – but they come back with different names and IP addresses. We have a blocking system – but with ALL blocking systems sometimes they don’t catch people who have been blocked. We have already implemented one of the best blocking systems available – but if you have any suggestions for a blocking program that is better — please let us know @ [email protected]

    Thanks.

  • http://www.urbanexpressive.com J. Nicole

    @Shere,

    I didn’t get the vibe this post was saying Black issuea and LGBT issues are one in the same; unless of course you are both Black and gay. Nor are they telling anyone how to think, since most blogs pose questions and topics for the sake of dialouge & discussion.

    This site, other sites, hell even my own blog doesn’t really owe one reader an explanation of the content they put up. I come across posts that I feel are not for me and what do I do? Simply don’t read it.

    As far as this post is concerned, I’m glad Clutch addressed their stance in a well worded response, since issues that deviate from the “norm” can bring out the worst in some of us.

  • Wow. This is Sad

    They do state it:

    About Clutch
    Since its digital launch in 2007, Clutch has been at the forefront for today’s young, hip, progressive Black woman. Ever-evolving to match both the needs of our readers, and propelled by the rapid pace of the digital age, Clutch has transformed from a weekly magazine to a rich, relevant resource boasting daily features combined with a popular blog which is continually updated each day.

    Clutch remains a cutting-edge magazine for Black women precisely due to our boutique-styled approach, which offers highly, customized content for our readers. Packed with material both meant to entertain and inform, Clutch’s fresh, inquisitive and cultivated nature attracts Black women both here and abroad. Our appeal is only enhanced by contributions of some of the most culturally savvy and eclectic minds of this generation.

    And this is only just the beginning. With the decline in paper-based circulation, increase in digital usership, and top-notch content, Clutch will continue to be a force – and resource – for today’s young, conscious Black woman.

  • Marcy

    Glad to read this post. Often I don’t even read comments on articles about LGBTQ articles because it saddens me so to read the horrid comments. I would like you to also consider being a bit more strict about the racial extremist on this site too. On a recent article about Vogue (I think in the Netherlands) using black face many of the comments read like something from a super right winged racist site (maybe run by the KKK or worse) talking about white people have no souls, etc. Yes people can have their opinions but to see such horrible and racist things on a site as classy and forward thinking as this was shocking. I wondered where were the moderators.

  • http://musedmagonline.com Drew-Shane

    I really appreciate the variety on the site. As the editor and founder of MUSED Magazine Online, I can appreciate perspective and point of view. You guys do that well. I feel we need to be diverse in our topics. Many of these subjects overlay with each other. I’ve noticed this too but I love the resilience and the continuation of posts dealing with LGBTQ issues. Love, love the work and site. Keep it up!

  • http://www.clutchmagazine.com Clutch

    We are here. But, it’s only two of us. That’s why in our comment moderation policy – we ask our readers to help make our comment section better – by letting us know by emailing us @ [email protected] – when they see a comment they find offensive.

    Thanks! Here is our guidelines – http://www.clutchmagonline.com/comment-moderation-policy/

    Sadly, we can’t control what our readers say in the comments – but when it goes against our guidelines – we take action quickly when notified.

    Thanks again for your comment :)

  • Misty_Moonsilver

    I agree. I thought this site was to address black issues. If its flooded with gay interests, then it becomes another on of those rainbow sites. I hate how people trying to make a connection between ethnicity and sexuality. Do they consider that straight black women still exist? Hellllooooo?

  • The Moon in the Sky

    Wow, I had to laugh about this.

  • Wow. This is Sad

    Are you serious!? They do talk about straight women – but they are also making sure they include all black women. This isn’t about being a “rainbow” site – this is about if you don’t agree – don’t read the post or say ish about your views or issues in the comments of that post.

    Is it SAD that some Black women are mean and heartless – to others just based on who they love or are attracted to.

    If I was Dede or Yesha – I would say and make it clear that if you are not down with this site covering LGBQT topics – find a NEW website to frequent. I heard Madame Noire/Bossip or Hello Beautiful are great for types like you two.

  • The Moon in the Sky

    Really? This site covers way more issues relating to heterosexual than bisexual and homosexual issues.

  • Worldly

    Of course straight black women. Straight people are the majority when it comes to sexuality. However, there are intersectionalities between race and sexuality as well as many other factors. There are Black and Lesbian women. Let us not exclude our sisters from the dialogue. If you have issues with it, leave the site. Go find a Black and Straight only site to cater to your opposing views on LGBQT.

  • Pat

    Congrats Clutch to standing up for ALL women. I greatly appreciate your boldness. I also think the following statements reflect character and is mature:

    “Clutch is not a site only for “progressive” HETEROSEXUAL black women. Clutch is a site for ALL black women, whether gay, straight, bi, tri…whatever label you want to wear, we support it. We’re not here to judge the way our readers live their lives..”

    Regardless of what our titles are, we are ALL women first then titles come second. Therefore, ALL women deserve to have their stories shared. No person or an area can grow (progress) by being exclusive to one set pattern. So keep up the good work and by doing the right thing – you will continue to prosper.

  • Kay

    It’s crazy how some people think that equality and progressiveness is only for SOME people but not all. I’m very happy that Clutch is an ally and I don’t see anything wrong with that. And I’m sure when folks accuse everyone at Clutch of pushing their own agendas it never seems to cross their tiny little minds that….*gasp* You can totally support the rights of others even if you don’t identify with that group! Wow! Who knew?! LOL. That was such a great response to someone who obviously needs more brain cells that the only thing I can do giggle with glee.

  • cosmicsistren

    I don’t understand why Sheree received so many negative hits. Some of these bloggers do act like the opinion is law. I totally agree with her on that. Just by her getting so many thumbs down sort of proves her point. There can’t be a debate. If your not approving the articles you’re a hater.

  • Leave Clutch then…

    No – and most of these “bloggers” are journalist who write Clutch for your favorite print magazines as well. And this is not one person “blog” – this is the full website – with both bloggers and professional writers and journalist. It’s not one person’s website.

    But, it means if you are not for the topic, keep your views and comments out the section of a post that you clearly have different viewpoints on. Or visit a site that tailors to your views – whatever they may be.

  • Blue

    Good for you…but we get that gay people exist yeah you do force it down our throats. And no, I don’t have a phobia of gay people ijs

  • http://gravatar.com/tolerk tolerk

    Hi, first time poster, long time lurker.

    I appreciate what Worldly said regarding intersectionality. In my case, I am both a black woman and a lesbian. I look for community on this site, and I receive it, everyday. I live in a city with a large gay population, but few people of color [and fewer still that are black and out]. I relish being able to come to the site to see what other black women think and experience in our lives, whether they sleep with men or women, both or neither.

  • DB

    I vist this blog often. Never commented.

    As a Black Gay Man, just wanted to say THANK YOU! Makes me love Clutch even more.

  • http://www.blackgirlslim.com Aja

    Just found this blog today. This was the first post I clicked on. You’ve got a new fan for life!

  • Sean

    Great so more articles about African and Caribbean women

  • Kam

    Good on you for standing up Clutch!

  • DB

    I believe the “fear of the gay planet” line was making fun, in part, of those “[k]onscious” critiques you just outlined.

    I mean come on, have we not moved passed the tired ‘feminization of black men’ and this supposed ‘threat’ to the black family structure? Those are not a thoughtful analyses of the issue (cringe at my identity being described as an ‘issue’ to you. *cough* privilege.) What it is is homophobic rhetoric dressed up as ‘[k]onscious’ critique. Tired.

    I think this post clearly voiced that such bigotry has no place on this site and that Clutch is an all-inclusive space. And what a great thing that is! =)

  • gina

    I don’t know any LBGTQ people personally, but I consider myself a straight ally. I respect others right to be happy. I like that there’s something on this site for every black woman, whether she is straight or lesbian. All of you in the closet gay homo-phobics can go kick rocks!

  • Worldly

    Then don’t comment on an article about LGBTQ. If you have only negative things to say about a group of people based solely on your religious belief stay away from anything that deals with this issue. This is an inclusive site all are welcomed, yes even you, but homophobic rants or comments are not. I don’t know if you are just trolling this site, but take your negativity elsewhere. Our LGBTQ sisters (and brothers) deserve to have their issues discussed as well. We should support them because of the difficulties they face in society for who they are. Do us a favor and don’t comment on this thread if you are going to spew negativity.

  • Nelle

    While I believe that your personal beliefs are your own, I am also a strong believer in the Bible. I have friends from all walks of life, and I am no saint myself. That being said, where in this book of life does it say that you are eligible to judge ANYONE? Futhermore, no sin is worse than another. I have no problem with homosexuality and I am a very Christian, straight, woman. It is not my place to judge ANYONE and as far as I’m concerned God created each and every one of us with purpose. Who are you to say that he did not place this “sinful” person (or persons) in this life to teach people like YOU not to be judgemental? Do you have premarital sex? That’s a sin. Do you use profanity? That’s a sin. Do you gossip? *gasp* That’s a sin too. Have you ever cut your hair? Yep, that’s a sin too. And NONE of these sins outweigh the other. If you follow the bible to the final word, then your judgement should not exist. Jesus befriended EVERYONE and sent blessings accordingly. YOU my love, are not even Jesus, so what makes you so special? Being a believer in the word does not make you free from sin, no does it give you ANY privledge of judgement. So before you say something is wrong and attempt to throw that first stone, walk out of your glass house and make sure that you are without sin yourself first.

  • Nelle

    This response was to haffie BTW…

  • Buttons

    @ DB
    Your accusation of bigotry is absurd and baseless and it is the only strategy and defense that the LGBT community has when they are confronted with an intelligent analysis of homosexuality. It is apparent that you do not have a rationale argument to offer. Contrary to your mentality, the sustainment and advancement of the black family unit is not an antiquated concept or movement that should be abolished because the LGBT’s want to integrate their culture into mainstream society. The value of the black male to the black family is like the head is to the body; it cannot function (properly) without it. This is not an opinion based conclusion, it is an historical fact. Thus, the reason for my clarification to the author; those who oppose homosexuality are not caught up in this conjured state of fear.
    So, you can cringe as much as you like. But, until the LGBT community and their supporters can have an honest and intelligent discussion and with their emotions aside, cringing and making deliberate false accusations to deflect from the issue is all they will be able to do.
    Peace.

  • cosmicsistren

    @leave clutch then – I don’t have a problem with the topics of gay women on this site. If you read my comment correctly I have a problem with Sheree getting so many negative hits when she makes a valid point. Your comment about keeping your views and not posting is so tired. What is the point of having a discussion when it can only be one sided. GTFOH with that mess.

  • http://beautifulmindtss.wordpress.com beautifulmind

    This is sheree…btw.
    After reading all of the comments, and seeing the thumbs down on different opinions (including my own), I decided to take a more objective and abstract view of this debate and other debates. At the end of the day, we’ll always disagree about something, I think the importance is moving past differing opinion. Alright, I’m done now.

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  • Worldly

    There will always be black straight couples, but there are also LGBTQ couples as well. They cannot change what is biology part of them. Also, they can still procreate so that nonsense about population control is just that, nonsense. Their sub culture already exist among “mainstream” society just like many others. You do not, or cannot , have to be apart of it. What is the intellectual conversation about LGBTQ? That they are people? Human beings? Americans? Partners? No one is forcing you to agree or even like it but don’t demean these people and reduce them to second class citizens.

  • Buttons

    @Worldly

    Either you are visually impaired or English comprehension is not one of your strengths. You are making blatantly false statements. So, before you attempt to dispute any points, make sure you are clear on what’s being said.

    Furthermore, your emotions are all tied up in your response because you haven’t said anything that makes any intellectual sense.

  • Worldly

    Then enlighten me again oh gracious one. If I do not understand what you are writing or trying to convey, it isn’t my reading comprehension skills, merely your writing in trying to get across your message. Now, it would do you some good to keep that snarky, pisspot attitude in check, if you want to talk about emotions.
    No one is trying to deter the advancement of black family, and yes a black male figure is valuable, but are not always necessary. SO, what exactly are you trying to get across? That LGBTQ are a detriment to the black family? Make your thesis clearer. And we can start from there.

  • Buttons

    @ Sheree

    There was nothing wrong with your comments. The LGBT’s and their supporters are deliberately evasive with engaging in constructive dialogue because it forces them to be open to new information that may contradict or dispel their present held beliefs about homosexuality. In addition, some people operate in a perpetual state of ignorance and denial.

    But, most critically important, their dismissal of opposing views, irrespective of the manner in which it is presented, and their projection of hatred and homophobia is a strategic maneuver used by the LGBT community to demonize and to instill fear in anyone who speaks out against it. It’s comparable to the person who speaks up about the crime in their neighborhood and then they are accused of being a snitch. It’s senseless and it is a tactical move to suppress an idea or concept from being broadly disseminated that may have a commanding effect.

    If the differing perspectives on homosexuality were publicly exposed, frequently circulated, and dominating the media airwaves, it would not only counter the current propaganda on homosexuality, it would almost shatter it. But, the government is very devious and they conceal information from the masses through controlled media. Simply put, they tell the public what they want them to know.

  • Buttons

    What is the purpose for calling me “oh gracious one”?? That is totally unnecessary. And the comments on my attitude are just plain silly…..
    I believe I made myself perfectly clear. However, you commented on things that I did not say. At no time did I demean homosexuals or “reduce them to second class citizens.” So, I have no idea where that came from. Also, I have already explained in detail in all of my posts on the message that I was conveying.
    But, I will answer your question: Is the LGBTQ a detriment to the black family? Potentially, yes. In short, the black man and the black family are already on life support and black women and children are the survivors hanging on by a thread. If fatherless homes, violence, mass incarceration, etc. have already severely damaged the black man and the black family, then homosexuality will certainly kill it. Black boys are to be raised and groomed to be strong black men to serve as suitable mates for black women and to be protectors and providers of their home and community. They should not be encouraged to live and behave in ways that are beneath and contrary to their nature and purpose. That’s nothing more than a slow progression of genocide.
    But, let me direct you to some information that can give you a more thorough background on the subject. You can Google “Global 2000” and purchase the book “The Great AIDS Hoax” by T.C. Frye regarding the population control agenda. You can plug in “Black Male Sexuality” by Dr. Umar Johnson and also Dr. Phil Valentine on YouTube. They both have very compelling arguments on homosexuality. You should also read “The Isis Papers” by Dr. Frances Cress Welsing. This will educate you on racism/white supremacy and how it is a global operation. I guarantee that you will be very much enlightened :-)

  • Lynne

    Um…Marcy, I agree many of the comments you speak of were harsh, so maybe I shouldn’t say this, but why bother reading blogs and comments if you’re going to demand every blogger or journalist censors every comment?

    Consider all the blogs out there. When you stumble upon one that has comments you don’t like, will you demand that the blogger prevents those comments from ever seeing the light of day?

    When I read some awful comment from a reader, I either respond to that particular reader or leave the blog.

    I appreciate your desire for Clutch to moderate every comment, but there are only two moderators here. You might just have to deal with some discomfort sometimes.

    BTW, I’m a reader, not a moderator.

  • Just saying

    If people kept their opposing views and comments from posts and subjects they didn’t agree with, then you can’t call it a conversation or debate.

  • Buttons

    @ Serita Theresa

    With all due respect, I have no idea what you’re saying. But, thank you for sharing information on race and globalism. I will research the people you named and will read up on their work.

    “Wise men speak when they have something to say; fools speak because they have to say something. “

  • Buttons

    First of all, Sis- you are hostile. You can’t even hold a discussion without becoming emotional and name calling. This is the typical response (some) LGBT’s and their supporters give. It’s sad, but it’s expected.

    Number two- you haven’t stated any facts or evidence, only your opinions. So, I question your research.

    Number three-your repetition of calling me homophobic seems to be the only comeback you have, because outside of that you haven’t said anything else…..

  • Quelqu’un

    Have you ever thought that maybe LGBT people don’t want to dialogue with you about their personal lives? Most people who want to “dialogue” about homosexuality are usually coming in with ridiculous studies and statistics (a move that is frequently used by “scientific racists” as well). There really is no new information to discuss. Gay people are gay, period. There’s really nothing to talk about.

  • http://www.geekmommarants.com GeekMommaRants

    I just don’t remember when we as a community had to validate our very existence. How does one ask another to provide scientific evidence of their humanity?

    So many talk about unity. Clutch actually makes our community a clear and beautifully worded policy. Can you image if everyone in this country did the same thing?

    Your alternative is gays marrying straights and create the appearance of some ancient Roman godliness. This is would be awesome from your perspective. Sure he’s gay but he’s doing what god wants him to do by marrying a woman he has not attraction to and who is no in love. This would be obedience over sacrifice.

  • Lynne

    I’m totally happy with Clutch’s reporting on LGBT issues. It’s really an education to read how gay rights is affecting LGBT people of color. In mainstream media, the voices of LGBT people of color are rarely heard, so I knew little of their struggles.

    Keep it up, Clutch!

  • Buttons

    Nothing in my posts said nor suggested that homosexuals should live their lives pretending to be straight. Nor did I request for anyone to provide evidence of their humanity. So, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else.
    Furthermore, opposing homosexuality has nothing to do with unity; it is based on one’s personal beliefs, and it is an individual’s right and their choice. The disunity comes in when LGBT’s become highly defensive and almost enraged when people do not agree with homosexuality. Instead of accepting that the opposition is for reasons that are grounded in legitimate social and religious concerns, they perceive it as a personal affront to them.
    Most of those who do not agree with homosexuality have family, friends, co-workers, and neighbors, etc. who are gay or lesbian, and we love and respect them no less. LGBT’s contribute to every facet of society. I have had gay doctors, bosses, teachers, and I currently have a gay attorney and he is excellent. So, I think folks need to stop looking for this homophobic ghost that doesn’t exist. I hold strong to the truth that the family unit (male, female-offspring) is THE first and most powerful institution on the planet and that the foundation of the family determines the future of the society.
    Peace.

  • Buttons

    @ Quelqu-un

    Actually, LGBT’s do want to discuss their personal lives and they have quite excessively. If I’m not mistaken, they brought their personal lives to the American people and the American leadership and not just to dialogue about it, but to make demands. They are on TV speaking on panels, protesting in the streets, and they are trying to integrate into every area of society, such as Black sororities (AKA), and the Boy Scouts, etc.; and their current project is marriage. Our beloved President spends more time on the gay agenda than he does on a black one- because the LGBT community keeps “dialoging” about their personal lives.

  • Quelqu’un

    Um, you mean the same way black people have? They want to be represented because they’re actually human beings and deserve to be treated as such? And you DO know that there are black people who are gay, right? One doesn’t cancel out the other. Black gay people can be in Black sororities because, guess what, they’re Black!

  • Julian

    Bravo Yesha

  • http://gravatar.com/anaima92 Lexi

    There’s no peace possible when you think your personal beliefs serve as a legitimate basis to deny other people a forum of expression and information. Clutch is not your site. Oppose queerness in your mind all you want, but don’t expect the rest of us to remain ignorant and underexposed because you want to be. Speak your truth and know that it is no one else’s.

  • http://gravatar.com/woosmom woosmom

    Your argument sounds eerily similar to the sentiment my father holds regarding interracial marriage. “I don’t agree with interracial marriage, but I have black friends who I respect no less. Black people contribute in society. I sold a house to a black family once and they were fine and look at Bill Cosby, he is an upstanding man. However, I hold strong to the truth that the family unit should consist of people of the same color and that the foundation of the family determines the future of the society.”

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