Nelly has long been a fan of urban modeling. He’s the rapper behind the famous credit card swipe down a video model’s derrière and hosts a annual competition with his clothing brand, Apple Bottoms, for the nicest, err, apple. In an interview with VLAD TV, he was asked what he thought about the stigma of urban modeling. He responded:

“At the end of the day, it’s still modeling. It’s a different type of modeling [...] but its not a high-end form of modeling. When Hugh [Hefner] first started Playboy, some people frowned upon it. But then Playboy became a part of America. Everybody went to Playboy mansion parties: politicians, members of clergy, movie stars. It didn’t mean that everybody thought it was right. It’s kind of like alcohol. Everybody didn’t appreciate alcohol when it first came out. Then, it became the American way.”

His logic might seem flawed to most, but he does raise an interesting point about the stigma of urban modeling versus that of Playboy, GQ, Maxim and other businesses that feature women in suggestive poses and revealing clothes. Are those establishments accepted more because they’ve been around longer? Is it a race or class issue that gives urban modeling its stigma?

What are your thoughts, Clutchettes?

  • Kenan (@Datboykenan)

    Actually the author makes a very good point. I never even thought of it like that. You can make a legitimate argument that any of those establishments mentioned aren’t all that different from the urban modeling that the women of African-American community frown upon. As a man I don’t think I should really have an opinion since I don’t know what it’s like to be a woman, but I do agree with the authors question: Is it really all that different? Is it possible that criticizing urban models does more harm then good?

  • Leo the Yardie Chick

    I never heard of urban modelling before this. You learn something new every day.

  • J. Nicole

    I get what he’s trying to say. But I think Clutch is helping him make more sense than he does.

    It’s easy for some of us to look down on the video girl/booty model but when it’s a white or Asian girl on FHM or whatever other “mainstream” men’s magazines there are, the stigma isn’t the same. While on one hand I wish some of these ladies would find another way of making a name for themselves without using they’re assets (and plus Black women have been objectified well before they were even considered a person), there’s still an audiance that wants to view it. I don’t, so I’ll just not look.

  • BeanBean

    I’ve never been a fan of urban modeling. There is a big difference between King and Maxim/GQ. The execution is different. Urban modeling is pretty young so it hasn’t had time to polish up the way the other magazines have.
    What the heck is he talking about with alcohol??? Alcohol has been around since before Ancient Egypt, he’s acting like alcohol in America was something new.

  • Kenan (@Datboykenan)

    You can say there’s a difference between King and GQ but you can’t say that urban modeling is different from Playboy. I’m actually looking through pictures of both and the only real difference is skin tone

  • Kenan (@Datboykenan)

    I understand the frustration but in all honesty some of these women need to use their bodies for income. I no a video vixen and she plans to use whatever profit to invest in school and other endeavors so I would never advocate to take that away from them. But once again I’m not a woman so I shouldn’t really be saying much.

  • BeanBean

    They are the same, both are trash. King and Playboy, regardless of skin tone.

  • Marisa

    Well we all know the fashion high end snobs don’t want anybody modeling their gear that’s bigger than a coat hanger, so a lot of those urban aka black models with round hips, booty and thighs aren’t considered at all. Which is odd how that square shaped box Kate Upton has somehow managed to get those high end jobs, and her shape is not better than urban models. Hell even the rail thin black models they don’t want more than 3 of them at a time, see how they kicked Selita to the curb and his tossing Chanel Iman to the side right now.

    As for the work these urban models do get funny how its considered low down and trashy as its mostly the ass mags and ever pose is from the back. For example King, Smooth, and Black Tail are looked as bad. Now look at the white skin rags, Maxim, FHM, and Playboy having the same model poses but, their considered mainstream and accepted only difference is one has white girls and one has mostly black/latino girls. The only other difference is the black skin rags quality of photos sucks compared to their white counterparts but, that’s about it.

  • Chanela17

    Oh please! Of course you wouldn’t advocate taking away something that gives you love skanky women, they would never see anything wrong with being barely dressed or prostituting absolutely love and worship prostitutes.youll never hear a man be against it unless its a gay man.

  • G-Man

    At the end of the day, it’s marketing and they have an audience. Until the audience says otherwise, this is capitalism at its most ridonkulous.

  • talaktochoba

    no, Maxim, Playboy and the like are accepted as mainstream because they are white-owned/controlled publications unabashedly attempting to appeal first and foremost to white males, who still predominantly control the economic purse strings of this country–at least, for the now…

    and history bears out that white males have always held a pathology toward even their own women, viewing them as nothing more than cave keeping and breeding tools that simply got in the way when not serving their “purposes”;

    so now, one must ask–knowing that since Emancipation black males have adopted this pathology toward our own women as part of a sick twist romanticising the slave master legacy–what purpose does it serve swiping a white man-owned bank’s credit card down the cheeks of one of our women for a camera to record in posterity?

    answer…the white man’s purpose, who owns the camera company, the video making company and the entertainment empire, that’s who;

    how does it feel to be his whore, Nelly?

    can you make enough money to wash out the stench?

  • Anthony

    Yes men do like looking at skanky women in little or no clothes who pose suggestively. As long as nobody poses against their will, and is of age, I see no problem with urban modeling. Like J. Nicole said, no one has to partake of this as a viewer or participant if they don’t want to.

  • BeanBean

    I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Kate Upton has one of the most jacked up body shapes I’ve ever seen. I don’t know being built like an upside down triangle is sexy, her hips are narrower than her stomach, strange.

  • chanela17

    actually if i’m sure there are a ton of men that are wouldn’t mind if little girls were in the magazines too. most men don’t see anything wrong with indecency or slight pedophilia. as long as they get to see a lil sumthin sumthin. smh

  • chanela17

    i’ve figured it out. it doesn’t matter as long as the woman is blonde and has big breast. that chick looks like a hampster. i can’t stand seeing her everywhere. it’s nice to finally see someone who isn’t a twig, but why her of all people? of course they love her because she had JUST turned 18 and has big breasts and is blonde. white men will worship any random white chick as long as shes blonde… don’t believe me? you’ll start noticing it

  • Kam

    “Urban Modeling”? Lol I was thinking of Karl Kani and FUBU. Well I’ve know learned another use for the “White people do it too” excuse.

    “It’s kind of like alcohol. Everybody didn’t appreciate alcohol when it first came out. Then, it became the American way.” Who is everybody? Even Jesus drank wine.

  • Anthony

    Chanela17, I don’t know what you have seen and experienced. Maybe you have been subject to terrible abuse, or someone who has been close to you has been abused or violated. If that is the case, I am sorry, and I wish you justice and peace of mind.

    What I can say is that as a man, I know that the great majority of men do not want to see children exploited or violated. We don’t want to see adults violated either. Enjoying sexy images within reason is normal, just like enjoying food is normal, but gluttony or anorexia is unhealthy.

  • TajMarie

    Well stated !!

  • Lillian Mae

    RE: What the heck is he talking about with alcohol??? Alcohol has been around since before Ancient Egypt, he’s acting like alcohol in America was something new.

    That’s exactly what I thought LOL! SMH…I hope he later realized his error.

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