[Video] Wash & Go’s Don’t Work On Nappy Hair

by Yesha Callahan

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I don’t have much time travel down the rabbit hole that’s YouTube hair or make-up tutorials, but my sister does. This weekend she sent me the gem below from YouTube hair blogger, Glam Fun.  Although I’m not one for calling hair “nappy”, Glam Fun pokes fun at her own inability to rock a “wash & go” because of her 4c hair texture. Wash & go’s are a staple for many naturalistas out there, but not everything is for everybody.

Take a look at the video!

 

  • Smilez_920

    LOL. Well get ready because people are going to have an issue with the blogger using the word nappy and this will turn into a good hair bad hair conversation.

    But I agree that certain hair texture can not prosper with a wash and go. Some people hair texture will not hold the moisture or will tangle easy, so that particular style is not a good look for them.

    Honestly, I have natural hair, and I think more naturalist need to realize that every natural hair style doesn’t work for every person. Not every woman will can rock a low fade, not every can rock a wash and go, or certain braided/twist styles or pressing their hair every week etc…. Being natural is about finding the style/styles that work best for your natural hair.

  • Kylie

    Im not saying I can’t get the wash & go look because I can. I just can’t actually wash & go to get it. I have to wash, condition, oil it, braid/twist, let dry for 8 hours,unbraid/untwist, fluff, and hairspray it. Then I have the “wash & go” look.

  • BeanBean

    Hallelujah! I’ve seen so many people on youtube, and person friends/family do this same thing. My cousin has 4c hair, yet she spends all her time watching tutorials and regimens for women with 3c/4a hair. Then she complains that she can’t get her hair to look like the girl’s in the video. I keep telling her, “why not watch tutorials with someone with your hair texture, I’m sure you’ll have better results.” You have to find what works for YOUR hair, not someone elses.

  • AB

    what’s wrong with nappy hair? I have 4c hair and when I first chopped all the perm out of my hair a wash n go worked fine. Now that it’s longer a wash n ‘go would become a big tangled mess and that’s why I dont do them. However, I have no issue with having nappy hair. I get compliments all the time and I moisturize my hair more than others. I’m okay with my nappy hair. *kanye shrugs*

  • angel

    I just want to thank this sis for her honesty. My hair is nappy and I’m ok with that. Its not fun or easy to deal with but its mine. And its nappy. Lolol.

  • http://gravatar.com/tellmesumtingood TajMarie

    The lesson here: Do what works best for your hair and nobody else’s.

    That is why I am putting my 4c hair in dreadlocks as soon as I grow it out for the umpteenth time.

  • Nubiahbella

    I thought wash and go were about convenience and easiness and not about hair texture?
    Although I won’t deny there is quest of the perfect curl, anyone can do wash & gos it won’t just look the same for everybody. Also I am tired of those articles always talking about the so-called 4b-4c hair and its limitations etc… I have seen different hair type from straight haired ladies to looser curls one which was also limited in term of styling etc…. yet I have never seen an article about it, ohhhhhhhhhhh I forgot they are meant to represent the ideal hair type *sarcasam*.

  • MommieDearest

    I don’t think the vlogger is saying anything is wrong with nappy hair. She’s saying that HER nappy hair won’t do a wash and go.

    She, you and I share the same situation- we have nappy hair that was easy to “wash and go” when it was short. However, now that our thick, nappy, gorgeous hair is long, a “wash and go” is a NO GO. If I tried that now, my hair would be a hot buttered crispy tangled mess. LOL!!!!

    The closest thing I can do to a “wash and go” is to wash, condition, detangle, moisturize, pull into a puff, THEN go.

    I think the vlogger’s message is to embrace your hair for what it IS and enjoy what it CAN do, instead of trying to make it act like something that it’s not. My hair is nappy. Not curly, not wavy, not coily. NAPPY. I treat it accordingly and it thrives and looks great. Even when I’m having a bad hair day I still get compliments.

  • http://gravatar.com/keimia Kam

    How can a wash and go not work? It’s just washing your hair and using the end result as a style. For some this will produce ringlets, for others it will produce a shrunken, chunky fro. It seems like the “problem” here is that it was a chunky fro and not ringlets. Ya’ll already know my views on natural hair. Embrace the frizz, forget the ringlets.

  • Ms.Vee

    You should! Locs on 4c hair gives the best wash and go life, while preserving hair beauty and enjoying growth.

  • Beautiful Mic

    great point.

    you don’t need to put gel or custard on your hair to wear a wash-and-go.

    work some shea butter and/or cream into it. Use a microfiber towel, and leave about 15-30 minutes to work in the product.

    you can wear a wash and go as a 4b-4c.

    What I am noticing is that people just don’t like to look at the texture in it’s shrunken state. There is an overbearing message to wear the texture stretched or style, not loose and shrunken.

    Whereas this message is not being geared towards looser curled and silkier textured naturals.

    White supremacy and Anglo-Saxon beauty ideals are still at work, even within the natural hair and natural hair care movement. Allow the momentum to grow and, once again, they will have us 4b-4c naturals running to texturizers to ‘blow up our fro’ like they did in the late 70s and early 80s…Then, we’ll be jheri-curling it all over again, on our way back to weaves and relaxers.

    Don’t let these Anglo-Saxon minded people confuse you, even if they have a hair texture similar to yours or identify as the same race as you do.

  • ruggie

    It’s not that wash n’ gos don’t work on 4c hair. Spending 30 minutes gooping clumps of gel on 4c hair and expecting loose, bouncy curls doesn’t work. But you can oil the hair, gently detangle in sections and shape into a tight, neat ‘fro (oh the horror, lol).

    Also please let’s kill the word nappy, it’s a huge step backwards.

  • Stephanie

    Its not that wash and gos “don’t work” on “nappy” hair… Its just that you don’t like the way it looks after you wash and then go… Keep it real, what do you want to “work”???
    This is your hair in its unmanipulated state. And to me, it looks fine… its shrinks because thats how your hair works… To some degree all curlies have to deal with shrinkage and some more than others…But thats all right…Say it with me…Its alright, lol

  • Mademoiselle

    Um. Putting gel in her hair is probably the culprit. The only time I see people put gel in their hair for wash and go is when they want to “define curls” because the gel is meant to clump strands together so they all spiral in the same direction — that’s definitely something only looser textures can accomplish. My 4c is growing out and I do wash and go’s just fine: wash, moisturize, use the widest tooth comb I own to comb the moisturizer through, maybe pat down the ends a little for uniformity, and go. I usually come out looking like this:

    - h t t p://w w w.refinery29.c o m/month-of-hair-khayatollah-short-afro-hairstylesthis, or
    - h t t p://woohair.c o m/large/Short_Afro_Hairstyle_2.jpg

    but never this:
    - h t t p://4.bp.blogspot.c o m/–mqsMXgV04U/UA9aCkMI8LI/AAAAAAAAHsI/MFDPo7J2XDI/s1600/IMG_5153.jpg,

    which is what it looks like she was aiming for. Learning what your hair can do and what it takes to make it do what you want to do go a long way in hair care.

  • Beautiful Mic

    Furthermore, THEY will have us shame-ridden of our natural, shrunken, hair, running to breed the hair texture out of our offspring.

    Wash-and-goes DO WORK on natural hair, MINUS the darn gel and custard.

  • Miakoda

    As someone who has the kinky hair that shrinks down to 75% of its length when wet, a was-n-go definitely would not work on my hair. There is no way I can leave my hair uncombed or without moisturizing it.

  • Beautiful Mic

    quote: HER nappy hair won’t do a wash and go.

    Because she’s putting that damn gel/custard in it. It’s marketed to 4b/4c’s but it’s not FOR US.

    Let that mess go!

  • http://gravatar.com/deebsooreal deebsooreal

    LOL I just died laughing at this video lol because I understand the struggle of trying to do a wash and go on my 4b/4c natural hair. I tried it a few times with some oil and eco styler gel and after I didn’t get the result I was thinking I was gonna get I gave it up. Now all I do is twist outs and protective styles (braids, senegalese twists, frohawks).

  • Beautiful Mic

    IMO, people who apply the term nappy to describe their hair texture (not the hair state in terms of whether or not it is tangled) have self hate issues. They we wonder why it’s so easy to embrace the idea that only using gel and goop on 4b/4b hair is acceptable for wearing a wash-and-go.

  • Beautiful Mic

    No, it’s that a product and styling method is being falsely marketed to 4b/4c’s and they’re embracing the deception. And the results are horrendous. You can still wear-a-wash and go without those results.

    I love me hair texture in it’s unmanipulated state, and I sure don’t need no falsely marketed products to enhance it in that state.

  • Miakoda

    *I thought I corrected the typo.

    *wash-no-go

  • PCB

    Shut up with the self hate crap. We are tired of hearing it.

  • Deb

    Some perspective: that’s just one, ONE less style some people can do but it’s so coveted some (not saying her) actually think less of their hair. It’s sad.

  • Beautiful Mic

    @PCB

    Who is we?

    I do NOT care.

    It’s a certain mindset in 4b/4c naturals that hair companies and beauty trend setter cater to in convincing us to buy products and apply styling methods that totally do not work for us.

    If you think that badly of your hair to think of it as nappy (and the standard negative definition implied by the word), then it’s EASY to buy into the deception that chick in the video is singing about.

    Don’t tell me to shut up. Ya’ll need to wake the -eff up!

  • Angelique212

    So stop with the self-hate. “Nappy” is a stupid word. Why get upset when a white person uses it, then.

    *aside* … the dumbest people. This is what they fight for? Tiring.

  • Beautiful Mic

    These companies get off on appealing to 4b/4c lack of knowledge, lack of self self-concept, lack of patience, insecurities and desperate attitudes regarding our hair. And after we’ve bought into their methods and promoted practices and they don’t don’t work for us, the creamy crack and/or that darn weave starts calling our name.

    That’s why they come out with these ridiculous commercials with some chick with artificially mangled hair talking about how unmanageable and awful (nappy) her hair looks. And with a single spin, Waalah, she get herself a relaxer or some petroleum-based hair grease.

  • Tallulah Belle

    I cannot do a wash-n-go either because I have MAD CRAZY curl definition and it is for that reason, that I cannot do a wash and go. And aside from the fact that it would never dry on its own, I have a texture which cannot be classified by any of the existing number letter references. I like to call it “4D hair.” I have never met anyone with hair like mine. Nor have I ever seen hair like mine in one of these videos etc… And I do watch those hair videos in a straight up trance.

    I believe that the reason that I have never seen natural hair like mine is because someone with my hair probably straightens it or breaks it all off whilst trying to care for it.

    My hair is nearly to my waist. I have been wearing it natural for 25 years, with a few “texturizer” “silkener” breaks here and there. It is not kinky or frizzy or “nappy.” I however, cannot do a wash -n-go because it curls twice: 1). into microscopic tight coils that clump together in a magical way, but when separated are thinner than a pen spring; 2). in a large spiral wave pattern that twirls up to my scalp in a gigantic curly cowlick. I literally have a curl pattern within a curl pattern within a curl pattern.

    If I brush my wet hair out with a Deniman brush, I can stretch each section almost to my waist. But when I release it, my hair literally spirals up against my head into one hundred tiny, shiny little spirals that cannot be combed or separated when they start to dry because the ends lock up into flat little coils.

    The only people I have seen with my hair texture (who rock a wash-n-go) are Papua New Guinea tribesmen from the southern archipelago. They are usually kayaking naked as well.

  • Beautiful Mic

    What kind of pictures/video (where are they available) of Papua New Guinea tribesmen have you seen that shows that much detail in their hair texture/curl pattern?

  • http://www.lillian-mae.com Knotty Natural

    I have 4a/b APL hair and I do not ever wash and go! It isn’t even about the shrinkage for me; my hair is too prone to single strand knot! I refuse to what others call a wash and go, which is really a wash, condition, load up on gel, rake gel through hair…5 hours later, BOOM, curls are poppin! WHO HAS TIME FOR THAT!

  • chacha

    She is not lying. I tried a wash and go my hair was in knots the day’s end. That’s why I cant do an afro. Someone, a man, told me I was ashamed of my hair since I don’t wear afros and that is definitely not the case. I just hate excessive knots. I stay in braids, tucked hair, buns, twists, updos, and only a twist out.

  • http://www.lillian-mae.com Knotty Natural

    Speak for yourself. I have 4a/b hair and have no problem with nappy as a descriptive word. It’s the aftermath of the wash and go (tangles and single strand knots) that makes it unacceptable for my hair.

  • Ariahead

    Yeah but that chunky fro is damn near impossible to detangle later. It isn’t a style that you can just wash out the next day. If you have hair like hers and let it shrink up like that, you are looking at up to four hours of detangling just so you can do something else with it. I love my “nappy” hair but I’ll be darned if I am gonna set myself up for that kind of torture after it dries. I’ll stick to twists.

  • http://www.lillian-mae.com Knotty Natural

    You can achieve an afro in many ways! An old twist out will work! Hop in the shower and allow the steam to loosen and lift your fro! Also, you can blow your hair out! A woman shared with me that in the 70s she used to achieve the perfect afro shape by laying a silk scarf over it…it worked perfectly for me!

  • Tallulah Belle

    You need only Google “Papua New Guinea Tribesman hair” and tons of images come up. The people of Papua New Guinea vary a bit in terms of hair. But, there is an ethnic group in there that has an intertwining curl pattern that not only spirals but coils simultaneously. Many of the women simply cut their hair off for this reason. These women are obviously are not judged by their hair, their beauty is clearly in their gorgeous bodies and lovely smiles.

  • http://gravatar.com/geenababe geenababe

    How do you know if your hair is 4c/4b/4a, 3 or what every other measurement there is to measure hair?

  • Miakoda

    Oh my goodness.

    *WASH-N-GO

  • http://gravatar.com/tellmesumtingood TajMarie

    By the pattern and the tightness of your hair coil when it is not relaxed.

  • Beautiful Mic

    looking at pictures….

    can’t really SEE what you’re describing…

  • ChaCha

    I just don’t like the after-effects of an afro on my hair. It seems like even with loose twist outs, if I do them for more than one day and only one day (which is what I was trying to say up there, but I types that comment on my phone so it didn’t come out right), I notice a lot of single strand knots. Not good. I have done a blow out with cool air, but again, it seems like it increased the single strand knots, so I stopped.

  • http://gravatar.com/keimia Kam

    Replying to Tallulah Belle. As someone who actually met people from PNG, (who are AWESOME FOLKS) they are not all naked in kayaks, and they rock their hair natural because that’s the way their hair is. They think it is equally beautiful as their face. Seriously, being with Melanesian folks taught me a lot about loving my natural hair.

  • http://gravatar.com/keimia Kam

    Same here, why wash my hair to put a crap ton of gel in it? Makes no sense.

  • http://gravatar.com/nolakiss16 binks

    LOL, I get her point but I kind of disagree with her. I think wash n go work but not after a certain length if you are in the 4b/c range. When my hair was shorter wash n gos worked perfectly (but I never put gel or finishing products on my hair just some leave-in and oil) and went about my business. But now that it has gotten longer I put a twist on my wash n go by putting it in a bun afterwards because I don’t want to deal with a long detangling session afterwards. Time and time again the memo should be about learning what works for YOUR hair for some wash and go are fine and for others they are not just like heat, braids, twists, etc. Hair is not a one size fits all.

  • http://gravatar.com/keimia Kam

    You can detangle it the next day in the shower with conditioner and a wide tooth comb. I’ve never in my 10 years of being natural spent hours detangling my hair. I don’t do this style either, because I live in a desert now with extremely hard water (it will damage your cups and bowls if you leave water in them). If you live in a very humid climate you can spritz with a mixture of water and glycerin and follow it up with an oil. My hair used to be sooo soft when I did that.

  • lola289

    Screw “Wash n’ Go”
    Just do your hair and be thankful for it.

  • lola289

    Google it…

  • lola289

    Exactly!

  • Tallulah Belle

    @KAM

    Papua New Guinea is the least developed placed on Earth, with only a very small percentage of the people living in urban areas. I too have been there and find the people highly intelligent. And, while yes, not all of them kayak naked. Some do. And you know what?I look great naked in a kayak, as do many of them. There is nothing wrong with that. You dear KAM, also need a better sense of humor it seems. Your natural hair will fluff better if you have a laugh or two. Trust me. Lighten up. It is just hair for Pete’s Sake. All is not lost.

  • Marcus

    Why don’t you all do like Oprah. Put Texturizer in it and act like it’s your natural hair. lol Yes, her hair dresser is using a texturizer.

    It cost you guy more money, more time and the majority of men like it less. Ladies, that is not progress. How again does this hair STYLE benefit you?

  • Marcus

    A like of women cough cough (oprah) are using a texturizer for their “natural” look.

  • B

    I saw the video and I second her: for me, wash and go’s DON’T WORK! All that ensues are knotted, matted tangles. I can’t hang.

  • Luci

    4c hair can be wash and go: you just gotta join #teamfade. It takes about two seconds to wash, and then you can use that leftover time on some hot makeup.

  • Mademoiselle

    My hair is just like the vlogger’s, and I’ve never needed to spend hours detangling. If I’m in the mood for a wash & go, normally I’ll do it early in the week, and allow it to continue to shrink throughout the week. And when I’m ready to stretch it back out, I shampoo as normal, apply conditioner and comb it through with one of those Conair shower combs, rinse, apply moisturizer while still wet, then take small sections and do a pass through with a jumbo rake comb and another with a normal sized dresser comb before braiding each section up to air dry. The whole process takes me about an hour (20 min to bathe, shampoo, condition, & detangle; 30 or so min to detangle again & braid), not including drying time.

    You don’t have to go through it if you don’t want to, but the idea that it’s impossible to manage shrunken or even tangled hair just because it’s 4c is a myth. I never detangle or use a comb at all on dry hair, and I always work in small sections. Easy, breezy, healthy 4c.

  • Deb

    “What I am noticing is that people just don’t like to look at the texture in it’s shrunken state. There is an overbearing message to wear the texture stretched or style, not loose and shrunken.

    Whereas this message is not being geared towards looser curled and silkier textured naturals.”

    Yes maam. I called out Joulezy about this in a curly nikki post regarding 4c hair. She literally said she does not like her hair in its shrunken state and had this DISGUSTED look on her face…like wow…how is this something that should seem normal to be so disgusted by your own dang hair.

  • UgoBabeeee

    3c,4c???!!!

    What is that???!!!

  • Deb

    “I think more naturalist need to realize that every natural hair style doesn’t work for every person.”

    This doesn’t just apply to naturals. It applies to every human being with hair. It’s just people insecurities with their hair texture that creates videos like this expressing widespread sentiments. You don’t see women with looser hair complaining about not being able to sport a great twist out or fro or whatever and making videos and parodies of them trying and failing with other women of similar hair types lamenting about not being able to do the same thing. Society has allowed White supremacy to be a powerful force.

  • Me27

    Why’d you feel the need to hate on Oprah?

    I’m not a die-hard Oprah fan; I’m just curious about how this even entered the conversation.

  • Miakoda

    My hair tangles easy too. Also, the moisture from the gel makes it shrink.

  • pearlsrevealed

    One of my siblings had hair similar to yours. It was simultaneously wiry, frizzy with a distinct loose wavy curl pattern. Not kinky, coily, or curly. It was strong. Three of my fine 4c hair strands equaled one of her flat broad hair strands. Back in the eighties she got a relaxer. I would say she had blow torch resistant hair. Why? She had an stacked, asymmetrical bob that was held in place with liberal daily doses of that spritz hold. Her hair NEVER broke off.

    Sorry. Cant post her pics from childhood.

  • Marcus

    This natural hair movement cult seems to be all about impressing other black women. Any black women who disagrees with them or prefers a different style is shamed and called a self hater. I fill sorry for young women who are pressured into this hair style. Forget what your husband, man or other black men think. It’s all about impressing and showing that you’re a part of their group. Tthat might work for middle age women with kids but for young women looking for a husband I’m not so sure. Long straight or curly hair softens facial features and helps feminize women. A lot of natural hair styles do the exact opposite.

    Secondly, you’re spending more time and money dealing with your hair. Time that could be spent with your family. I don’t get it. If you want the natural look without all the drama and waisted time, use a texturizer and pretend your natural. lol Forget what these natural hair Nazi think.

  • Nic

    Actually, it is all about how you want your hair to look when done. Too many people want some kind of curls. Which is fine. But I think the qualifier should be that you probalby wont look like your favorite You Tubers or bloggers if you have kinky hair and try to wash and go.
    One of my friends has this kind of hair and all she does is wash and go and her hair is longer than it’s ever been in her life. I had no idea she had thick hair until she cut off her relaxer and grew it all out. She just could care less about showing how long her hair is(something she obsessed about when relaxed), straightening it, or looking like anyone on You Tube. I tihnk her fro is super cute and I think that her attitude about her hair is quite good. She lets it be and it hasn’t let her down yet.
    And no, it is not a tangled mess b/c I cut it for her once and yeah, detangling it to cut the sections was not hard.
    I think women with kinky hair should do what they like-if they wash, condition, and trim their hair they will be fine. If they want a different look then they’ll need more stepts to get there.

  • Nic

    I don’t think he’s hating…he’s just pointing out that like many things in the media, the looks you seek to emulate may get some extra help. It’s just like women looking at models in a magazine and who beat themselves up over not looking like that when those women are airbrushed and photoshopped.
    I swear, I dislike the term “haters” b/c it winds up being used in all kinds of inaccurate ways.
    Oprah has a texturizer to achieve her current look. And her current magazine cover photo is a custom wig. She has long hair, but not wavy or curly hair. Get over it. It’s not evil to say any of that (or to call out anyone’s wig or weave…seriously).
    A lot of men troll pretty hard but I personally do not think this is an example of that.

  • Nic

    Yeah, my friend has kinkier textured hair and actually it’s grown out a ton and she has what I’d call a boho look and her hair looks great. Kind of like some of the women on something like Le Coil. You don’t have to have some perfect fro for it to look good.
    But she found the whole experience to be very freeing b/c having hair that will never hang made her let go of her desire for long hair, and yet she has the longest hair she’s ever had (but it looks like a short medium length b/c of the coiliness).

  • Nic

    Pretty much…it works. But not if you think you are going to look like Scary Spice. That’s the part they are neglecting to add. And that they don’t like the way their shrunken fros look. Maybe they should check out Le Coil. Those ladies are fierce…

  • http://gravatar.com/keimia Kam

    So. On. Point.

  • Nic

    Yeah, my opinion is that if you have curly hair, you don’t really need to fight to get there. It’s funny b/c you have women with curly hair paying a fortune for a look they could achieve with any conditioning and moisturizing regimen, and then you have women who have not a curl on their head buying these proucts and hoping to look like Tracee Ellis Ross or Lisa Nicole Carson (b/c I know people always want to act like Tracee only has curly hair b/c she has a white dad, so I feel it necessary to add in a curly girl with two black parents).

    So women who can wash their hair, apply conditioner and leave-in and either diffuse or airdry and have curls have truly curly hair (in my opinion, take it or leave it). If you have to apply 50 products and cannot touch your hair for 48 hours and have to dance around the moon or something then I think you are living on front street. Not that there is anything wrong with it. It’s just that I don’t think that is curly hair.

    Even a curly girl with “naked” hair will still have curls, a bit frizzier but curls.

    I find that no matter how I style my hair, it always reverts to its natural texture, which is fine, but also means I’m not leaping through any hoops to make it anything that it is not. So I keep it well trimmed and conditioned and keep it moving.

  • http://gravatar.com/keimia Kam

    Nah, just don’t like seeing Black people saying things that are equally as ignorant. “It was just a joke’ is not a good response. You basically just dissed them and said that their beauty comes from everything but their hair. And if it was “just hair” we wouldn’t get people making videos about not having a certain hair texture.

  • http://gravatar.com/keimia Kam

    You got that shower comb too Mademoiselle? lol. That’s the same one I use. So convenient and works like a charm.

  • Keepingitrealreallz

    Let’s admit this: white people can’t dance, our skin is more beautiful, we are usually taller and our men bigger you know where. Let’s also admit, white people won in the hair department. Let’s give them that. Our hair is difficult, unruly and kinda sucks. I deal with mine but let’s be real. Every race has something great. Hair is not ours. It takes me an hour every morning to do my hair. My white friends take 5 minutes. They cut their hair and it grows the next day.

  • Steph

    This video is so on point and HILARIOUS!

  • Overseas_Honeybee

    LAWD!!! This was hilarious. I too am reppin’ for all the 4C chicks *salutes*. Everything does not work on every hair type no matter what fancy products you go out and buy. My wash and go is throw some gel up in there, put on a headband and hope for the best.

    My hair is my hair and it’s what God gave me. FOUR-C!!!!!! YOU KNOW!!!

  • MommieDearest

    O.M.G.

    This thought process makes me so very sad….

    *sigh*

  • Phillygurl

    Oh please, so many men in one breath tell black women they hate themselves for trying to look like white women and the next call them natural nazis for beginning to take pride in their natural texture . The lack of support in the Don Imus situation, movies like Good Hair, and the overall buttheadedness of many black men on issues of hair is exactly why black women are to the point they don’t give a hoot what most of y’all think. Some of y’all talk out of both sides of your faces. Instead of uplift and support , once again something that is potentialy good for black women is being used as a means of control by those with overinflated egos.

  • MommieDearest

    I’m not going to address this comment in its entirety (because, really, there’s no point in it…) but I will respond to this:

    “…you’re spending more time and money dealing with your hair.”

    Speaking for myself, I have spent FAR less time and money on my hair since I’ve been natural than I did when I wore a relaxer. Before I became emancipated, I would spend an average of $75 every 6 – 8 weeks getting a relaxer. That’s not including special “conditioning treatments” (that were sometimes necessary when I had excess breakage), tips, gas (because once you find a stylist that you like, you need to follow him/her if they move to a different shop/location, even if it’s out of your way because a GOOD stylist is hard to come by) and other misc. expenses. After my first year being natural, I crunched some numbers and saw where I SAVED about $1200. Multiply that by the 10 years I’ve been natural and I’ve kept $12,000 in my pocket. (Well,at least I’ve kept it out of the hair stylists’ hands- LOL!!)

    More importantly, I got my TIME back. Each trip to the hair salon was a MINIMUM of 3 hours. If I had to go on a Saturday (which I avoided like the plague) that could easily stretch to 5, 6 or more hours. Not to mention health concerns. It can’t be good to breathe in all those fumes from the chemicals in a salon for hours on end.

    As far as home maintenance, I had to either roll or wrap my hair at night; or hot curl it in the morning.. Either way, that was 30 minutes. Today, I tie my hair up in a silk scarf at night (or not- sometimes I just go to sleep on a silk pillow case); get up in the morning and shake my hair, moisturize if needed, fluff and go. This takes me 5 to 10 minutes TOPS. If I’m wearing a protective style like a bun or updo, I spend 1 minute on my hair in the morning- just the amount of time it takes to smooth it and add an accessory. When I wash my hair at home, I spend the same amount of time on it that I did when I was relaxed.

    So, for me, wearing my hair natural is a huge advantage as far as time and money goes. There are many others, but for the record I will state that my husband loves my hair, and other black men (and men in general) I have come across show much admiration for my hair. Just the other day I was wearing a puff, had got caught in the rain, and this brother was trying to holler at me and commented that he liked how fluffy my hair was.

    There are plenty of brothers who love sisters, and our hair, just the way we are.

  • vintage3000

    YOUR hair sucks- mine does not.

    And you either have either watched a lot of porn or you have a lot of….personal experience.

  • vintage3000

    1) I have always wondered about men who read women’s blogs–isn’t there an article on blacktail.com for you to read?

    2) There are too many natural haired women of all ages, complexions and hair textures on the Internet who would not give a scrub like you the time of day.

    3) When you’re done broadcasting your insecurity, go find a black male website and lecture about sagging pants, grills, and grown men wearing huge earrings in both ears.

    4) Invest in an English grammar book.

  • ImJustSaying

    A ridiculous curl pattern system someone implemented for women with natural hair. i get where it can be useful (searching for YT hair vids) but it also divides women by still playing on “the 2Q is more manageable than 11Z so therefore it’s perceived as “better”. ”

    Not trying to throw shade but just like people want to exclaim “I’m half *insert non-black nationality here” as a badge of honor. Some (not all) naturals use the curl pattern labels as a representation of their “better-ness”.

  • ImJustSaying

    Also As a person with similar texture to the vlogger I have one question for those who claim 4c-

    Am I the only one who used a good old fashioned pick to “de-tangle” my hair? Wash, condition, towel dry(microfiber of course) Grab my pick and run it through my whole head.
    Also I would add some moisturizer if it got a bit too dry. Still had my texture still had my Height (you know because it goes up not down) and I felt good about it.

    Lesson here – Get a pick ladies!

  • Nubiahbella

    lol, I prefer to believe your post was a joke than no one else understood but you.To be fair if anyone won the lottery in the hair department it would people of an Asian descent lol. I won’t even go on the “well” endowed Black men , if only it was true though :)
    and who takes an hour to do their hair in the morning, please what you do?

  • ruggie

    I can’t tell you the many times that men have come up to me to compliment me on a natural hairstyle, it’s a beautiful thing. They may not be in contol of the images we see (or trolling beauty forums telling us what frames our face better, lol) but they’re out there. Love ‘em!

  • ruggie

    ^^@Marcus (I clicked “reply” but…)

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/washingtoncuts jpw

    Even thought I am not a fan of the word “nappy” I thought the video was funny. I don’t do wash and go’s either…. Tried a lot of techniques from other people with similar hair and tried to get my own technique, not happening over here. I will stick with twist and twist out’s thank you…

  • E.M.S.

    Tried it, failed miserably. My hair does not know how to behave unless I go through my full routine.

  • Ashley

    Speak for yourself. I have wonderful, springy, bouncy curls,and white people approach me on the daily telling me how beautiful my hair is and how they wish they had hair like mine. My hair is not unruly, nor does it “kinda suck”. I see what you are trying to say, but I am not buying your message. Good luck on your hair journey and finding out how to best manage your own head of hair. I can’t imagine spending an hour on my hair every morning; I do wash-and-gos and only bother styling it once a week. Also, I grew up around white folks, and I know many girls and women who wake up early just to fry their hair with the flat iron every morning. You can’t always tell how much time someone spends on their hair by looking at it, regardless of their race.

  • http://gravatar.com/tellmesumtingood TajMarie

    This will be my last time posting on this thread. However, I think it needs to be said. When I made the first attempts to make the transition to natural hair (first in the late 90s through braiding and then 2001 with the big chop), there were only a handful of major hair products that were geared towards those wearing twists, dreads, and/or afros. Sadly, I had no idea of how to get my hair into an afro without being tangled until I had looked at websites like Nappturality and was informed to condition it first, braid it while wet after going through it with a pick, and then let it dry after using rollers. I had initially thought my hair would be the same texture that it was as a child before I had initially attained a relaxer. However, that wasn’t the case since even getting your hair periodically straightened with a hot hair comb can actually alter the texture. If I couldn’t find what I wanted in the store, I would try one of the hair recipes suggested on one of the natural hair websites or would purchase a product online. I think the the product that I bought from growafrohairlong.com was the best product that I have ever purchased. Nevertheless, I haven’t heard of “wash-n-go” up until now. Now that I know what it is, I am certainly that is the product that my younger sister used on her hair given that her’s is fine compared to mine. The issue that I think many have is that many of these products that are being geared towards those who are choosing to wear their hair natural only work for those with certain textures as opposed to the entire spectrum. However, the companies advertise this notion since they only care for profit — especially some of the companies in the mainstream that are just now offering alternatives to chemical products they sell or companies that traditionally sell to white women. However, I learned through some of the earlier books that you can’t treat natural hair in the same manner that you would treat permed hair. I also learned that she stay away from products with petroleum jelly, mineral oil, sulfur sulfates, and alcohol. Therefore, I try to purchase water-based products. Most gels are no-no for me for that very reason that I had mentioned.

  • http://dodreamaisha.wordpress.com Malaika Jabali

    So late…but so glad someone talked about this! All naturals are NOT the same. My first go at really trying to be natural led to failure because I kept thinking I could wash and go.

    Yes, I looked like a boy and my hair shrunk down to my scalp. But I didn’t care about that. What’s problemmatic for my 4c hair is that wash and gos lead to ridiculous tangling, matting, and dryness. No amount of product can un-tangle, un-mat, un-dry hair that massively shrinks and that’s naturally extremely dry.

    In my second go round, I’ve found muucch more success with protective styling i.e. weaves and buns. Proper weaving encouraged a lot of growth, more than I’ve ever had before. And now my bun is saving my ends because I rarely manipulate it.

    Hair typing is very beneficial for some ladies who have to give their hair a little more TLC than other naturals and who need to identify the techniques that work uniquely for their hair.

  • http://dodreamaisha.wordpress.com Malaika Jabali

    Many of the replies answer you implicitly but I will add, let’s not forget about what comes after a “wash” and a “go”…”dry.” And for women with nappy hair like myself, having our hair dry in its completely natural, unmanipulated state leads to knots, tangles, and unquenchable dryness. Many 4cs have learned our hair requires a different technique. It’s not the look so much as the health. If I wanted to have tangled hair that was prone to breakage, sure I’d keep a wash and go. But I want my hair to be healthy.

    As a 4c natural I had to research what I could do to maintain a healthy, growing head of hair, and wash and gos are universally panned when you look at the countless successful hair journies of other black women with kinkier textures. Please research more about other experiences before assuming this is all about self-hate.

    With that, the advice I always read is to let your hair dry in a stretched state–buns, twists, bantu knots, etc. This advice has been a godsend for me. If I just listened to people who were all “it looks fine to me, so you should be fine too!” I’d still be looking at some breaking, non growing a$$, tangling a$$ hair.

    Pretending all black hair can be treated the same has the opposite effect of what you promote– it will make some naturals even more inclined to return to relaxers, as I had done. On the other hand, now that I know how to *properly* maintain my hair and know that it is unique and requires different techniques, I am even more proud of my natural texture and will never look back.

  • Jase

    This is totally adorable. She’s awesome.

  • http://gravatar.com/miriamchristina miriamchristina

    Love it!!!!

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