I’ve never felt so uneasy about watching American Horror Story until last night. American Horror Story: Coven managed to hit on all levels of perversion in last night’s episode. There was the incest storyline with Frankenboyfriend/Kyle (Evan Peters) and his mother.  The racial component of Kathy Bates’ character, LaLaurie, now being Queenie’s (Gabby Sidibe) “slave”. Then there was the beastiality component. And that’s where it becomes interesting.

I’m not even going to touch on the whole sex with a minotaur. Because we all know that can’t happen in real life. I mean if you’ve had sex with a minotaur before? Let me know how that went. What I’m referring to is the masturbation that was done by Queenie, leading up to the actual “act”.

Let social media tell it, seeing a fat black woman simulate masturbation on tv is down right disgusting. Deplorable. Vomit inducing.  For the record, those are not my sentiments, just take a look at a couple of the tweets below:

how can gabourey sidibe even reach her vagina to masturbate

— ang ૐ (@angieelombardo) October 24, 2013

Lmao but umma need them to never have Queenie masturbate EVER AGAIN #AmericanHorrorStory

— The Crownless King (@ArcadeFiasco) October 24, 2013

I have never been soo turned off till I saw precious masturbate on national television

— 199X.™ سبحان ا (@THIRDEYERVZ) October 24, 2013

Now I’m quite sure if it was drama queen Madison (Emma Roberts) “masturbating” it would illicit such a negative response. But because Sidibe’s character isn’t a slim and trim blond hair and blue eyed character, the world was about to come to an end.  Say what you want about shaming, whether you’re sick and tired of hearing the term or not, but it exists.

And last night’s episode and the reaction from social media made that perfectly clear.

I just hope every last woman and man who had something negative to say about witnessing a fat woman act out a masturbation scene on tv, were all slim and trim. And I highly doubt it.

  • Duh

    It may sound superficial, but yes, people are going to be turned off seeing an obese person masturbate regardless of color.

  • http://gravatar.com/geenababe geenababe

    I already know the comments are going to be as horrible as the last Gabby post. I kind of wish she wasn’t covered on here because it’s going to be the same ole, same ole. With that being said the whole show is sick. I have been trying to hold in on this show because of her and Angela. It is an interesting show but some of the scenes stay in your mind. I wish Gabby wouldn’t just pick up any role nor do any type of photo shoot. I mean I thought the bull man killed her but according this article she wasn’t. That scene was just stereotypical like she is so desperate because she is big that she will have sex with an evil bull man. Bottom line is she shouldn’t take every role and shouldn’t do even photo shoot especially if they can’t dress her properly and up to the level as the other people feature.

  • http://gravatar.com/bossladi bossladi

    Last night’s episode was.. disturbing all together. But the masturbation was hardly the most traumatic part.

  • ruggie

    Tried in the past to watch American Horror Story but found the show too twisted…

  • http://www.yeshacallahan.com Yesha Callahan

    Sorry, where did I express disdain? I expressed disdain at the people criticizing it. R.I.F.

  • K

    took the comment right out of my mouth!! of all the foolishness that happened, while her masturbating was one of them that wasnt the worst. I was more disturbed at Frankenkyle’s mom sexing him, that jar full of “baby gravy” and goats blood …i mean i could go on hell last night was disturbing..period !!!

    i was tweeting so many facts my cousin who doesnt watch but follows me was like “Umm cousin wtf are you watching?” HA

  • Brittney

    Sounds to me like all the negative comments are coming from those who aren’t AHS fans.The show has always been controversial and pushed the envelope… this is the best season yet!

  • stef

    seriously its TWITTER!!!!! why waste the energy on caring what people think.

    Even though after watching last night ep i plan to go church on sunday it was hella disturbing

  • noirluv45

    I don’t want to see anyone masturbate regardless of color or size, but that’s just me.

  • noirluv45

    Why do people watch this demonic stuff? I guess because they want to, but why?

  • DEE

    totally irrelevant, but someone on twitter called the minotaur minotyrese and I ’bout died

  • KG

    I was really side-eyeing and saying wtf when I was reading this, but I can’t judge. I just watched a chick think that Bowwow was actually trying to talk to her, despite every sign that it wasn’t really him…the things they put on TV these days.

  • Justus

    Context is very important when watching a show that is as blatantly racist as AHS. Miss. Sidibe (extreme victim of racism) on and off the show is severely mistreated. This show is dripping with racism (white supremacy) for instance the head witch is called the Supreme. If u think this is happenstance u are fooling yourself. The scene with Miss Sidibe is excruciating for a couple reasons. The sexual stereotypes that are applied to heavyset women suggesting that they would do anything for affection even if it means sleeping with a Minotar (Beastly Black Man). If I am not mistaking isn’t there a name that white women give black men that are doing sexual favors for them and their friends. Ohh yeah that’s right they are called Bulls. Miss Sidibe said it herself. “They only see a beast, but the only thing we want is love”. Once again its just dripping. This episode had so many scenes in it that resolves around the most unavoidable conflict on this planet and how it ties into all areas of human activity. Peace family.

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  • http://gravatar.com/designdiva40 paintgurl40

    what disturbed me the most was she was about to have sex with a Minotaur/bull.

  • SE

    From reading these comments, this show sounds sick.

  • Starla

    I was seriously considering watching this show to support Angela Bassett, but after reading all of this I don’t think so; bestiality, incest, masturbation..I think the show may be a lil bit more out there than I can handle.

  • BeanBean

    I don’t think this is a race issue. Typically people would be less accepting of a very obese woman masturbating on television anyway. Being blonde and blue eyed has little to do with this situation. I’m sure people would be more accepting of Kerry Washington masturbating than a large white lady. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just trying to explain why some people reacted the way they did.

  • http://gravatar.com/nolakiss16 binks

    I tried to support this show because it is in my city, I love the haunted (and sometimes made up) history and love me some Angela Bassett (her Senegalese twists was laid in the promos) but I couldn’t help going WTF so I slowly weaned myself off of it so I skipped out on this episode. I get wanting to be scary and creepy but this show seems to cross the line into the sick and demented category that it isn’t really entertaining. As for as Gabby masturbating that wouldn’t creep me out but at the same time I wouldn’t want to watch it (to be fair I still can’t look at Gabby and Mo’nique the same way after that Precious scene because I am still going WTF till this day). I agree with those who are saying this isn’t really a race issue per se (thought I still think Gabby’s skin color might play into the perception for some people who don’t view her as attractive despite whatever her size may be) but more of an aesthetics issue because I am sure if Rebel Wilson was in the role of Queenie and was masturbating people would be calling foul. I am sorry but if you are a plus size actor and actress I don’t think there are going to be too many people going awww or raving about their sex scenes especially in the land of smoke and mirrors that is Hollywood where the so called “beautiful people” rule the roost.

  • GlowBelle

    Whoa. Everybody has pretty much said it, color is really not the issue here, most people wouldn’t be comfortable with seeing a masturbating scene like this on TV screens done by a plus size actress and I even think people would have a problem even if Emma Roberts did this type of scene. The article and people’s comments would have a different tone then, as from what was described, there’d be some other issue, and none of it would be praise.

    As a fan of horror/suspense stuff, I’ve always wanted to watch this show, but every thing I hear about it turns me off. This isn’t horror to me, or even intelligent, this is sadistic shock for the sake of trying to be ‘edgy’ and I dislike that kind of stuff. As much as I love Angela Bassett, Kathy Bates, and Jessica Lange (and together!), this show just keeps getting a deep side-eye from me. Then again this show comes from Ryan Murphy, so that tells me all I need to know…

  • Deb

    Same here. I knew it would only get worse too. They stretch and stretch the limit till people get desensitized. That’s the formula. Stuff like this that makes people uncomfortable today will be the stuff of jokes and passing disinterest tomorrow. I pretty much don’t watch TV anymore TBH.

  • Tish Jefferson

    I didn’t have a problem with the masturbation-that’s a pretty normal part of sexuality. A large Black woman having sex with a bull is just yanking all kinds of racist/racial chains. People who consider themselves “creative” would say they are doing it to “start a dialogue” or “push the envelope”…In the end, it’s all about dollars and ratings-A circus freak-show starring Precious. If Ryan Murphy REALLY wanted to do something bold, he should have a plus-sized woman in a complex, heartfelt relationship with a rational MAN who discovers her self-worth and explores her sexuality in some kind of normal, loving way-THAT is something I would tune back in to see. On a lighter note, Kathy Bates’ reaction to the Obama presidency was worth the price of admission.

  • Apple

    Girl please I don’t want to watch Rebel Wilson masturbate neither. I’m sure if it was Angela doing it people would be like YEA(at least the AHS forum where I reside).. But color is not the issue. Not this time

  • Apple

    Girl how could you not mention the LAMBSKIN dildo?

  • Co.

    Comment after comment, I’ve noticed the same rebuttal so here’s my opinion…

    I am actually a fan of AHS. I’ve watched all three seasons and I can, with a clear mind say, it has alway been this twisted. If you’re questioning why someone would watch it, it’s just a matter of personal preference and as human beings, we wont always like what other people like. That’s life.

    I can also say, that this is the first season with a reoccurring black actor/actress, and it’s even more special that it’s 2!

    As for racism, I can understand why an “obese black woman” having sexual desires for a beast can appear racist, and if you want to go there, it can actually be racist… but the show pushes boundaries. If the scenarios were switched, having the white characters performing the masturbating scenes, and having the AA characters committing incest… I’m sure we’d have this same argument.

    I’m not making excuses, but observations.

    If they’d originally casted an AA to play the part of a college boy, addicted to drugs from the 9th ward (who’s actually casted by a white actor).. We’d all be up in arms.

    I’m not some delusional African American who doesn’t believe racism exist, and believe me, I KNOW… but I think we have taken twitter comments out of control. I follow a plethora of young, black professionals and never noticed any of this backlash towards the episode. Besides the fact that is ALL just quite disturbing.

    Lastly, most of the scenes are period based and set in New Orleans (from which I am from) and if you didn’t believe there to be racism during that time…come and visit us now. Same song, different melody.

  • TT

    It is ridiculous to deny the racism in this show. “It pushes boundaries”… are you kidding me? I am so sick of this generation thinking… not being politically correct… is edgy writing. Congratulations, you have figured out that this show goes for the jugular. Congratulations, you are repeating the same tired rhetoric, “you are missing the point if you get offended”. I am disgusted. So what, is this show off limits to critically analyze? Are we just going to turn a blind eye to the tired racist tropes played out in this show? Of course, this is a period piece. Of course, there is going to be use of the N-word. But we are discussing Queenie’s characterization… Queenie was written by people who function within this society where there it is commonplace to dehumanize fat Black (dark-skinned) women. This show is recycling the tired trope of the unlovable desperate strong Black woman. Queenie is literally a human voodoo doll… strong Black woman anyone? Her “femininity” is written off… she is seen as a tough lonely bitch… who is desperate enough to have sex with the bull (who reeks of some racist Black men=sexual deviant beasts stereotype)…
    And to the people who are like… Well, I would be disgusted if I saw ANYONE masturbating…
    Stop lying. A skinny white/light-skinned/racially ambiguous woman masturbating on TV would be seen as erotic. If she were having sex with the bull it would be seen as some sick kink. Do not pretend that this Eurocentric fatphobic standard of beauty that’s been forcefed to the masses is just beyond you. Do not pretend that this show was created in a vacuum. It’s naive.

  • The Other Jess

    wow – Angela basset is on a show like this? Thank gawd I’ve never heard of it, or watched this show. And never will.

  • ScriptTease

    I missed episode 2, but it seems every episode will make a reference about her weight.

  • ScriptTease

    I take it you don’t watch porn?

  • The Other Jess

    soooo…just a question…if a show like this is blatantly racist and obviously twisted and demented to the utmost, to boot, why in the world do you all keep watching it??? why support it, give it ratings, etc? Just asking, seriously, not trying to be controversial. The comments on here are mind-boggling.

  • SE

    I don’t think so. Gabrielle Union masturbated on her new show Being Mary Jane and I didn’t think it was sexy. It was tmi for me. Maybe men wouldn’t mind seeing Gabby Union vs Gabby Sidibe but I don’t want to see it no matter who does it.

  • https://www.facebook.com/taylor.s.simmons Taylor Pandillas Simmons

    Do ya’ll not get the “Horror” part of American Horror Story?

    Like, hello.

  • Lynette

    Why do you expect some one whose trademark is pushing the envelope (he was behind Nip/Tuck for goodness sake) to create a storyline with a “complex, heartfelt relationship”. Ryan Murphy is not that guy. Sorry, but you’re gonna have to look at another show creator for that.

  • gigi

    Didnt know masturbating had a skin color…..

  • http://gravatar.com/blaque217 blaque217

    I’ve never seen this show…never even knew it existed. So as someone who is impartial, I’m going to say that the big and small screens are meant to entertain and transport viewers. It’s all smoke and mirrors and full of fantasy.
    If someone wants to see an overweight person masturbating, they can put a mirror over their own beds. I believe that when people watch love scenes, erotica, or whatever, they are watching for the fantasy element. They want to see people with pretty faces and beautiful bodies.
    So it doesn’t sound like this was just a racial thing, this was probably more about viewers not getting their fantasy fix.

  • Dejam

    It is what I said before about Hollywood’s fascination with Sidibe – they make a mockery of her. Funny, they cannot find some hot and gorgeous dark black woman to masturbate but they sure can give it to her. You’d never see Melissa McCarthy given a masturbating role. No that would go to like Emma Stone.

  • Gonner

    People would watch Kerry Washington read the paper. She is that hot. Sorry, masturbating scenes should be reserved for hot women.

  • LeToo

    Thank you, Angela Basset, Kerry Washington and Tika Sumpter masturbating would be the bomb!

  • Fam

    Sidibe is just not attractive. Why ar ewe afraid to admit this?

  • copelli

    Well said, TT.

  • Treece

    Ok, I am a fan of AHS. The show pushes limits and totally goes where other shows would never dare. This season takes place in New Orleans and flashes back to a time where slavery took place, so there are going to be racial under- and overtones in a lot of what is shown/talked about. A lot of the story lines/subject matters in the show actually happen in REAL LIFE and are depicted on screen. Incest, date rape, slavery, racism, fat discrimination, voo-doo, sex, masturbation. Yes, the whole voo doo witchcraft things is fictionalized (depending on who you ask) but those are all real. If it’s too much for you to watch, it’s simple. Do not watch, and do not judge people who choose to. God places no sin above another. Watching AHS is no more demonic than being a liar or a cheat or an adulterer (lying, cheating, and adultery are ACTUAL sins)

    I don’t think it was racist having Queenie masturbate and have sex (or supposedly have sex) with the minotaur. First off, the minotaur was made that way by Kathy Bates character due to her evil treatment of slaves. She strapped a man up to wall and placed a bulls head over his. Queenie felt unloved and unwanted because of her weight and having had to face discrimination and her own share of “fat-shaming”. She says in the scene that that was something the two of them had in common and they….”shared a moment” (maybe, there is a cliff hanger so maybe she didn’t have sex with it). But the masturbation nor the minotaur being black are not racist. That scene was an example of how she felt, being unloved or “beastly” because she is fat and succumbing to lustful feelings that she would reduce herself to having sex with an actual beast to fulfill a need. I’ve seen fat women do it real life sometimes. Many times. Some overweight women reduce themselves to succumbing to “beastly” men to fulfill sexual needs that feel like love.

    This is tv show folks. Like I said, some pretty damn demonic and sick stuff happens for real on the daily and some people criticizing AHS don’t bat an eyelash when they hear about it on the news or read it in the paper. Demons on the loose everywhere in this world but when actors depict fictionalized events on tv or movies, everyone want to talk about how demonic it is and horrible and jump down the throats of those that watch. Please, give me a break.

    “Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”

  • ScriptTease

    Because that would turn people on, and heaven forbid a Black Woman turns someone on. Gabby is what mainstream wants everyone to believe this is what the Average Black woman looks like and every shape form and fashion. Even Black men believe this is the average Black Woman because this is what they see. People are influenced by what’s been shown in the media, magazines…. All that is about to change though.

  • I mean

    Ryan Murphy stated that this season is an allegory for racism and race relations in America. Just like last season was a commentary on asylums, perceptions of mental illness and the catholic church. All this stuff is meant to make you think. Think about the conversation Basset and Lange had about witches stealing from the voodoo queens. He’s obviously talking about appropriation. All these things are being done on purpose, but not to be racist per, but reflective of our society’s relations with race, which is just as bizarre as the show. In all honesty it makes perfect sense for such a wierd and perverse show to discuss racism, because that’s what racism is.

  • http://gravatar.com/ebony82 ebony82

    I am at the end of episode 2 of AHSC. That must have happened in episode 3. So far, the show is eery, but I like it.

  • AHSfan

    On IMDB.com it says Gabby and Angela are only in 3 of the 13 episodes. Are you sure she wasn’t killed? I was pretty disappointed to read that they are only in 3 episodes. Gabby’s third was last week and Angela’s is this coming week. Why the minimal storyline is, according to the show, witches power came from the African slaves? I’m confused.

  • Manuel

    I wished i could share this comment on my facebook wall. Thumbs up for this! More people need to think this way. You rock!

  • http://www.rishona.net Shona

    There was a recurring black character in season 2: Alma

  • Sayitaintso

    They need to kill her off – fast. Every time I see her I want to switch the channels.

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