Katie Couric

Here’s a fyi, it’s quite rude to ask a transgender woman about their genitalia. Apparently no one told Katie Couric this, but model Carmen Carrera and actress Lavern Cox didn’t have any problems educating Couric.

Carrera and Cox were recent guests on Couric’s talk show and the conversation went from discussing their careers to Couric basically asking what’s under their dresses.

From Autostraddle:

Things started to seem a little odd when the viewers kept being reminded about Carrera’s transition by being shown pictures of her in bandages and mentions of her transition at every chance. Later when Couric introduced Carrera, she said that “she was born a man and that’s why she’s on our show,” making it very clear that she’s only interesting because of her transition…However, the real trouble started when Couric started to ask Ms. Carrera if transitioning was painful because of all the surgery that she had to go through. Carmen looked a little confused and responded by talking a little about her nose job and breast augmentation and that’s when Katie pounced. She immediately asked if Carmen’s “private parts” are “different now.”

Carmen Carrera responded perfectly. First she literally shushed Katie Couric, trying to get her to stop asking such a private thing. Then she told her “I don’t want to talk about it, it’s really personal” and she told Katie that there’s a lot more to get than her genitals. She said, “after the transition there’s still life to live, I still have my career goals, I still have my family goals.”

Couric then segued into Cox’s segment and discussed her role on “Orange Is The New Black”, but quickly tried to turn the conversation back to genitalia.  But also the consummate professional, Cox handled the topic with ease. “That preoccupation…objectifies trans people and then we don’t get to deal with the real lived experiences. The reality of trans people lives is that so often we’re targets of violence. We experience discrimination disproportionately to the rest of the community and our unemployment rate is twice the national average…When we focus on transition, we don’t get to talk about those things.”


  • http://www.lillian-mae.com Knotty Natural

    Alright Lavern!

  • http://curlydeviants.com MsTBennett

    This has nothing to do with nothing, but it IRKED me when she said “You’re so well spoken about this.”

    You’re surprised? Just. Bye.

  • omfg

    they are not women.

  • ColorMePretty

    I’m proud of those two women. They did a great job of shutting down those ignorant comments. Katie Couric should be ashamed of herself for asking such invasive and offensive questions.

  • http://gravatar.com/geenababe geenababe

    I thought her show was going to be cancel

  • Nubiahbella

    Totally Random, Carmen body though, a great looking transgender!!!!

  • Naan

    I was going to ask… but looked it up for myself:

    Fun fact! When Cox’s character is portrayed as a man on the show it is actually her twin brother.

  • Pop goes the weasel

    and you are not a human. you’re a demon. GET BEHIND ME SATAN!!!!

  • http://parentingbytheseatofmypants.wordpress.com greendoondoon

    Yes they are. More importantly, they are human beings who are worthy of respect and dignity, not some freak show to be exploited.

  • omfg

    women have xx chromosomes.

    men have xy chromosomes.

    I guess trans people are gonna try to change biology courses.

    a man may decide to live as a woman but his basic makeup persists.

    they are not women. I don’t care how they feel.

  • omfg

    lol. please. i stated a biological fact.

    their sex is male.

  • K

    Did she lighten her skin? Her twin brother is dark skin.

  • PGS

    ….because siblings always have the same skin tone?


  • Nic

    Interesting, I wondered how they did that, b/c at first I assumed she was a man playing a transgendered woman and was confused about the flashback scenes.
    Wonder what they would do for someone who didn’t have a twin?

  • Nic

    No, but if they are identical twins it actually isn’t a silly question. So without answering that question, it’s a bit premature to be throwing the whole “can black siblings be different colors” question back in his or her face.
    2 eggs and 2 sperm is different from 1 egg and 1 sperm that split.

  • Stella

    I caught that too. Katie, BYE!

  • K

    thank you @ Nic

  • K

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with asking about medical genitalia procedures. If it’s important enough be done, obviously there its relevant. People are curious, and if the question is genuine and not mean-spirited, I would think it’s because someone would want to understand something foreign to them. It doesn’t necessarily have to take away from trans issues.

  • http://www.lillian-mae.com Knotty Natural

    Yep! Katie didn’t expect someone who used to be a black man, now a transgender to be so well spoken! And Lavern had enough class not to school her right then! IDK that I would have been able to!

  • My Name is My Name

    Female and male twins are never identical.

  • http://ladyngo.blogspot.com Lady Ngo

    I don’t think she is implying that people asking is a problem as much as the fact that thats ALL of what people seem to ask about and focus on. And in the grand scheme of things, its really not anyone’s business. If one is really curious about the actual surgery you can grab a medical textbook.

  • Shayla

    Many people wouldn’t know if they didn’t put it out there… I kind of feel like they exploited themselves. Just like people who chose to post unflattering pictures then get upset when people question or ask about it. IJS

  • Allie

    It’s rude PERIOD. You don’t get to be an invasive a**hole because you’re curious. You have no right to ask about someone’s body, especially when it makes that person feel uncomfortable. That rude.

    Also on a side not not all trans* people get surgery and are happy with their bodies as they are.

  • pyteena

    In response to omfg, females have xx chromosomes and males have xy chromosomes. The terms “men” and “women” are social constructs that have little if anything to do with biology. Nothing in biology says that boys wear blue and girls wear pink, but these colors are thrust on boys and girls the minute the exit the womb. People have the right to define themselves, for themselves, and that has nothing to do with biology.

  • copelli

    You nailed it, Allie.

    It’s just rude….plain and simple. And Katie is just trying to bring some sensationalism to her boring show.

  • K

    They were both born male, so it is possible they are identical.

  • constance

    Honestly at first glance, I thought to myself “transgender?, the one in the black dress was born a woman.” I remember watching Carmen Carerra on Rupaul’s Drag Race and even as a man he was very realistic looking.

  • Child, Please

    Videos for some reason aren’t playing well on my laptop (a key sign I need a new one), so I’m wondering if a) they knew they were going to be on the show discuss being transgender (which would include the surgeries, etc.) and b) if Oprah caught this much flack when she’s practically done the same thing. No, I’m not “caping” for Katie, but I wonder if it was how she asked as opposed to what was asked. Sometimes word choice and tone make a difference.

  • V

    I think its an important question to ask especially for people out there who want to transition, its more informative to hear from someone who went through the process as apposed to reading about the procedures. But you have to ask in a respectful manner. BUT ishh goes left when thats allll people want to ask trans people as if they’re arent other topics, concerns and issues to address. The violence they receive and their lack of human rights are hardly ever discussed as often as the procedures which is problem.

  • Allie

    Exactly, but people ain’t trying to hear all that though.

  • Bisah

    she tooold her!

  • TPCherry B

    Yes, omfg…they are not women. And just because we state this FACT does not make us bad people. Realist perhaps! lol. The truth of the matter is, when you surgically open a man versus a woman up, there is a obvious difference. No matter what is changed on the outside. Should “transgender” people be treated poorly or disrespected..NO. But again the FACT is they are men.

  • Evonne

    I have a real problem with this “questions you dont ask a transgender person. FYI we as trans folks are the teachers so if we are going to put our selves in the public eye as trans we need to be the teachers. I will answer any question about my transition and surgery.

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