juror-8

Juror #8 in the Michael Dunn trial is now speaking out, and she happens to be the lone black woman on the jury. Juror #8 told CNN that people who believed race played a role in their decision not to convict Dunn of first degree murder were misinformed.

“I never once thought about, ‘Oh, this was a black kid, this was a white guy.’ Because that was – that wasn’t the case,” juror number 8, aged 21, told CNN’s Alicia Machado.

“So, for people who say, you know, here’s another white guy who got away with shooting and killing a black kid, what would you tell them?” Machado asked.

“I would tell them that they really should knowledge themselves on the law,” Miles replied.

“If this case wasn’t about race for you, what was it about?” the CNN reporter followed up.

“It was about justice,” juror number 8 responded.

Dear Juror #8,

On what planet have you been living on for this long?

SOURCE: Mediaite

  • geenababe

    I do not understand these people. I am happy with how they rule for charges 2-4 but I don’t know if they trying to PC or just not trying to create any outrage but how could race have never enter their mind. I just don’t believe that. I don’t know why she added that whole become knowledgeable about law. It’s funny when it comes to cases like this we always get the people who are very technical and all about the law. I mean that’s how it should be but I am pretty sure more likely than now jurors rule on more feeling than what the law said.

  • G

    Welp, now we know why he was chosen as a juror.

    I’m done.

  • http://mademjoselle.wordpress.com bk chick

    I’m no expert,but isn’t it true that the defense and prosecution intensely battle each other for their jurors of preference? If so, maybe she was one of the jurors that the prosecution wanted…that’s the only way this makes sense to me

  • Aria Wilson

    LOL.

    I am done because you thought she was a guy…

    Too funny.

  • Aria Wilson

    “It was about justice”

    Oh honey….

    SMH…I have to remember she is but 21.

    Keep living daughter, keep living.

  • The Other Jess

    I think the juror is right. Nothing about this case was any different than the case of Adrian Broadway, the young black girl shot by a black man. And it’s already been confirmed that race was never brought up by either sides’ lawyers, so the jury did not hear the race question in this trial.

    Also, please note the pattern of somehow changing the focus from the criminal to blaming a black woman in all of these cases (i.e. george zimmerman trial and rachel jontae).

  • noirluv45

    I don’t believe it either, geenababe. I think it’s more like maybe being PC OR just being the proverbial ostrich with its head in the sand.

    I wonder if she or the other jurors heard his jail house recordings. If one says that isn’t about race, one is very delusional.

  • S.

    The Other Jess said…

    “Also, please note the pattern of somehow changing the focus from the criminal to blaming a black woman in all of these cases (i.e. george zimmerman trial and rachel jontae).”

    This is the only logical part of your comment

  • MommieDearest

    “I would tell them that they really should knowledge themselves on the law,” Miles replied.

    Welp. THAT explains alot…

  • GeekMommaRants

    Not the sharpest knife in the draw. Special needs makes up juries in Florida. I’m not being mean, just truthful.

  • Kay

    Thats not a black woman….

  • http://clutch Tosha

    That is not the lone black, there is one a woman. I thought that it was reported that there wasn’t any black males. Lol But now I see why they weren’t able to convince the other jurors to vote guilty. She incapable of composing a complete sentence.

  • [email protected]

    I thought the same thing when I first saw this pic-’didn’t they say there weren’t any Black men on the jury?’ And I wonder how knowledged she is on the law now?

  • Kam

    Man they really know how to pick them don’t they? Not about race? I’m totally speechless.

  • geenababe

    Yeah, I thought there was two black women and that was it.

  • k

    i thought that was a man …no shade…. at any rate…black people like this make me sad…kumbayah exist on the planet in their heads alone smh

  • sweetiepie

    This has been peeking around the corner for awhile now. Many black people are in denial and no longer recognize racism and bigotry against themselves.

    Seems impossible, but there it is. Incredibly sad and destructive.

  • http://teachermandc.com Teachermandc

    Juror #4 also indicated the issue of race never came up in the four days of deliberation. Nor was it a focus during the trial. Yet we all know race mattered in this tragedy. Until Americans are willing to discuss the “elephant in the room,” truth will remain elusive, no matter what legal smokescreen we provide. For more on my thoughts on this case, I invite your readers to visit my blog at teachermandc.com. After all, I have to find a way to explain this verdict to the young people I teach.

  • 1989

    Wow. The Defense gets much more leeway during Voir Dire (jury selection) than the Prosecution, and it shows. They did well when they got her put on the jury. But I am glad she’s speaking out, since this all goes to help the Prosecution see how some of these jurors think and build a better case for the retrial.

  • http://mademjoselle.wordpress.com bk chick

    I meant this is what the DEFENSE wanted

  • Qawi Harvard

    Ofcourse it was about race, but isn’t it considered “Juror Misconduct” if a juror presents evidence that was not mentioned during the trial? Couldn’t we be seeing infinite appeals due to “racial bias of Juror #8″ and the possibility of Michael Dunn getting a new trial with 0 blacks?

  • http://yahoo stell lewis

    The comments from Juror #8 shocking to say the least.she obviously has no analytical skills. From her comments i am now getting a better understanding of the results on murder 1. On another note, she needs to get a comb through that hair.

  • Sharae

    Someone Please help Our race!!!
    Now it all makes Sense… if only we would “knowledge” ourselves about the Law. SERIOUSLY!!
    I am too weak! I can’t! LOL
    Hopefully the for Next trial, the prosecution can find a few Intelligent, intellectual Black Jurors.
    Not being Mean, just being honest.
    Jordan Davis deserves better!!

  • Leon

    OMG!!! How in the world a black woman doesn’t see RACE!!?
    What trial was she watching? She said he was a NICE GUY!!!

    WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE COME FROM!? O.o
    They have to do a better job in jury selection.
    I thought the people who were picked for juries, was suppose to be COMPETENT!!

    I agree, someone please help our race. :(

  • Eduardo

    Now I have a bit more insight and a clearer picture of this case.

  • http://ww.suttonnewsmedia.com mimie jean

    Juror#8″it was about justice.” Exactly,in that particular case justice has not been served

  • BeanBean

    So…these are the people they put on juries. The defense knows who they want and dont want on the jury. This girl is blind and deaf if she thinks that race had nothing to do with it. There needs to be a law stating that the racial makeup of the jury must be representative of the people in that county. I don’t know if this law exists already, but it should.

  • Treece

    Well, its clear why the defense chose her. These attorneys know exactly what they are doing. “Lets find the most deaf and blind black woman we can and put her on the jury just to say we have one”.

  • Gwendalyn Chambers

    Not sure if this young lady was paying attention, if she thought Michael Dunn was a nice Guy. A nice guy don’t leave the scene of a crime, never calls the law informing them that he shot 9 to 10 rounds in a SUV with people in it. In addition, I feel the law need be changed, race should have been factored in, and more character witnesses brought forth.

  • Whitney’s Receipts

    Homegirl is terribly naïve. Sadly, there are plenty of black folk that believe the lies of white supremacy.

  • mzlez

    Now it makes sense!! No wonder! Are we to assume there weren’t any intelligent, professional looking blacks in the courtroom? This is so sad and an insult to African Americans everywhere!! Not really a fault of the young lady. If she chose to come to court looking in that manner, that was her choice. BUT I am sure from the preliminary questions, the attorneys could clearly see and hear that this woman was in no way qualified or intelligent enough to sit on that jury or any where else! Wow…clearly a set up for failure!

  • http://www.prettypractical.com psquaredla

    This is a lesson in not avoiding jury duty. It’s our civic duty. The most qualified to serve on a jury seem to be the best at avoiding it or “getting out of it”, IMHO anyways.

  • Rastaman

    I think what many of us overlook when we criticize the jurors in this case and the Trayvon Martin case is that the prosecutors are not fully committed to convicting these defendants of murder. Angela Corey, the state prosecutor is a big proponent of “Stand Your Ground” and if she is successful at convicting perpetrators who kill people using that defense for murder it will eventually undermines the feasibility of the law itself. So when we hear jurors speaking about these cases with such obvious ignorance we have to understand that those who are being picked for the jury are being chosen to fail at a guilty verdict. What is abundantly clear about SYG is that it is the best defense when you kill the other party if you leave them alive or have witnesses then you are very likely to be found guilty of attempted murder.
    It begs the question as to how is it possible to have a finding of attempted murder in the case of the people you fail to kill but no finding of murder for the person you did kill in the same incident?

    The State of Florida is committed to defending SYG and so they will do their best to ensure that perpetrators who use that defense are not found guilty especially in these high profile cases.

  • Roses

    “I would tell them that they really should knowledge themselves on the law,” Miles replied.*Deeeeep Sigh*
    I don’t know where to even begin….This was exactly the point of the case…Ok, so if race wasn’t the issue as Juror #8 believes, then would the fact of a young boy losing his life because of “Loud Music” be enough to convict him of first degree murder? This is why I will huff and puff on my way to Jury Duty every time!

  • Kim

    I’m sorry, but looking at this woman and hearing what she says…….SMDH. Who raises these people? This is scary.

  • AnnT

    Did you really say it’s completely valid to base how we should react to her based partly on how she looks? Really?????

  • nikki martin

    SMH! This is a prime example of how our education system fails people of color and the Black Community specifically. How did she manage to graduate from high school without knowing how to articulate a basic thought?

    After watching that I am reconsidering adoption. Those of us who are able to provide a for the financial, spiritual, and educational needs of black children in the system need to do so. There are too few of us to leave even one child to victimized by a system designed to work against us.

  • Janelle

    “Another Extremely Sad day in history for Our Black race” Juror #8
    Let’s all do our best to make Sure Our Youth are Well Educated.
    “I’m done”

  • Simone L

    Why does she remind me of Dave Chapelle’s character in the Nutty Professor? Girl…no.

  • Girl, Bye

    “They should knowledge theysefs on the law”.

    How in the hell did she get seated on a jury? Why didn’t the prosecution move to strike her ass from the jury pool? What in the Little Rascal Buckwheat hell is she anyway?

  • Shonda

    Juror #8
    Any Educated black women in the State of Florida???
    Please Stand UP!!!!!
    I truly believe that once Again we as African Americans have “purposely” been portrayed on National TV to be incompetent & Ignorant.
    As a layperson & Not an Attorney, Even I could have chosen better.
    I AGREE, JORDAN DAVIS DEFINITELY DESERVES BETTER!

  • The Other Jess

    “Little Rascal Buckwheat”. WOW. Hope you’re not black because that was racist as h*ll. She got seated on the jury because the U.S. jury system is a public system. She got seated the same way everybody did. She got called for jury duty and the lawyers selected her. Get over your elitist, racist hate and quit worrying about how this girl looks. She did the job she was called to do, and that’s it. How about focusing your criticism on the man who is a murderer?

  • Yep

    Defense attorneys really know how to pick ‘em. Just go for the jurors with minds that can be swayed the easiest; pick the ones that will just parrot what they hear. See juror #8.

  • The Other Jess

    All of the comments on here are sickening. Absolutely sickening. Once again, you idiots have allowed your own prejudices to be used to basically blame a black girl for the murder of a black boy by a white man.

    This girl made her judgement based on the evidence given during trial. ** Newsflash ** – again, race WAS NOT factored into the trial. It was NOT brought up. This girl didn’t know Michael Dunn from adam, so she made her decisions based on what the lawyers gave her at the time.

    Quit worrying about how this girl looks or even speaks – there were several other jurors in that box and they made their decisions as well, and the outcome is still the same.

    Again, the U.S. jury system is a PUBLIC jury system, and if you vote, you have a chance of being selected to serve, no matter your looks r education level. If you think all black women jurors should look like Kelly Rowland and have the education of Michelle Obama, then the bigger idiots are you. She did her job, leab=ve this chick alone. What a bunch of haters.

  • The Other Jess

    Was race a factor in the Adrian Broadway case? Almost exact same circumstances where a black man kills a black girl. A white shooter with a black victim does not always mean race – it could just be he’s a jackass .

  • The Other Jess

    “Little Rascal Buckwheat”. WOW. Hope you’re not black because that was racist as h*ll. She got seated on the jury because the U.S. jury system is a public system. She got seated the same way everybody did. She got called for jury duty and the lawyers selected her. Get over your elitist, racist hate and quit worrying about how this girl looks. She did the job she was called to do, and that’s it. How about focusing your criticism on the man who is a murderer?

  • Jan

    @The Other Jess
    I feel Extremely sad for you my dear.
    Obviously you are completely Clueless.

  • Chantal Marie

    To the Other Jess:
    Yes, we should place our focus on the Man who committed the crime…..
    But do you REALIZE who we depend on to come up with a VERDICT?
    The Jurors!!
    #8 was a JUROR & that is why we have Every right to comment on her Ignorance!
    A 17yr old Teenager was gunned down. The murderer has not been convicted…. YET!
    Juror #8 was incompetent.
    Period!

  • geenababe

    @ The other Jess

    Yes, the comment and personal attacks on her looks are uncalled for. I don’t think most people are blaming her like she was a one woman jury that reach this verdict. What I think most people are saying they don’t understand her and the 11 other people ignorance when it comes to the racial aspect of this case. We don’t know how they didn’t see race as a factor. Even if you leave race out of it how do you call a man who shot at a bunch of teenagers’ car because he didn’t like their music a nice man.

  • The Other Jess

    Yes Chantal, we do depend upon the jurors. Bt you have to realize that the defense and prosecution select the jurors to be seated in a trial. If the prosecution let a juror who seems inexperienced, undereducated or easily swayed into the jury box, then that’s on them. If the lawyers did not present their side convincingly enough to the win the case in theminds of the jurors, that’s also on them. Also, there were 11 other jurors in this case who came to the ultimate decision on Dunn, but once again we are looking at another case where an uneducated Black girl is becoming the scapegoat for the actions of others.

  • The Other Jess

    I’m far from clueless and the only person you should be feeling sorry for is yourself. Black youth are shot daily in similar circumstances by Black perpetrators and not a peep from anybody. But just because the shooter is white this time, everybody cries racism when it hasn’t been proven anywhere yet, and if it was racist, then the lawyers did a poor job of proving it in court. It sounds like another American shooting to me, but let’s pretend like this doesn’t happen every day in America.

    I’m just asking – how is Jordan Davis’ murder any more racially motivated than Adrian Broadway’s murder? They are almost the exact same crimes, except for the race of the shooters and the gender of the victims.

  • The Other Jess

    Also, Dun has been convicted, He hasnt been SENTENCED yet. My understanding is that he could get up to 60 years, but of course, it may be shorter. But probably not by much.

  • The Other Jess

    The racial aspect was not presented by either side’s lawyers in this case. It was not brought up so it could not be considered. If juror 8 had said that “yes, it’s about race” it would not change anything other than salving some wounded feelings. Obviously, the lawyers in this case did a great job of making sure to not have race as an issue. I don’t see where any blame is to be had on this juror. Also, I personally don’t think this case is any more or less racist than the Broadway case, which also includes a man shooting into a car of unarmed teenagers.

  • The Other Jess

    And i agree, greenababe, the juror is naive to think any murderer is nice, but her opinion is indicative of the job the lawyers did.

  • paintgurl40

    The lawyers knew exactly what they were doing. They don’t want attractive, intelligent or pro-black people sitting on that jury. Just like when the news want to talk to witnesses of an incident, they don’t want the black people who sound like they can form a complete sentence or who have all of their teeth. They purposely try to find the ones that look and sound a hot mess and put them on the air.

  • mythoughts

    Getting her on the jury was probably one of the first good signs for the defense. She is really young and clearly impressionable, not quite what one might describe as intelligent or articulate, but still she added to the diversity of the jury.

  • http://google Michael Smith

    We’re did she come from no gun bullets from the side to the back of truck WOW how about just minding ya own these were teens listen to music the fact is it’s time to start dumping back we don’t need to keep talking justice damn what is the point it’s the old generation of WHITE folks they didn’t stop making guns when they Michael Dunn got his you think

  • http://google Michael Smith

    Stop talking so much it couldn’t been my child and I am in a court looking at the man who killed him THEN LIEING about it YEAH WERE THE STRONG BLACK OR WHITE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THERE KIDS at counld be yours next stay focus !!

  • Ms Vee

    You know who this manly looking chick reminds me of? She reminds me of the mammy that threw herself in harms way to protect a white supremacist at a klan rally (the article is on clutch). And how did she land such a jury position without being able to competently put together a sentence? I don’t care who finds me nit picking at her looks and incompetence offensive. That’s the least she deserves. An innocent black man is gunned downed yet again, minimal justice is served, and her response is “they should knowledge they self on the law”…..It’s over i tell ya.

  • Deana

    @ Ms Vee:
    Thank you Sista!
    You are sooo on point!

  • Alicia

    @The Other Jess:
    How can you seriously say that juror. #8 stating “he was a nice man” is indicative of the job the Attorneys did? You seem to be an in intelligent person so let me ask you this ” Do you think you Could have ever said that? Regardless of what ANY of those Lawyers said, No one in Their Right mind Would be dumb enough to go on national TV & say that. I truly do not believe You or I would have done that.

  • Deidrah

    First PART of my comment right here is not about the Michale Dunn case but about the comments I read here and this site overall:

    I am not here for the thumbs up.

    Shamming people just because they may not or do not fit your same radical Afrocentric views is unfair.

    I notice on this site, that whenever someone does not post a comment that is heavily afrocentric or even on the extreme–>black supremacist,

    they get a thumbs down and are bashed for their reasonable opinion.
    ———————————————————–
    Okay.

    Anyways, regarding the Michael Dunn case, this WAS an issue of HATE.

    Hate in what way? That is what unfortunately, people aren’t so sure about.

    The Killer supposedly was not found to have any evidence against him of saying a racial slur or any form of racial hate.

    What is obvious is that he Murdered an innocent Teen.

    That is the point that other people are trying to make and probably the juror.

    You all keep focusing on race, BUT that MAY not always be the case.

    >>>>But WHY do you all bash those who say this may not be about race<<<<?

    This is why I included the separate first part of my comment.

    What happened to LOGIC&REASONING?

    What happened to not jumping to conclusions?

    You are making it worse.

  • The Other Jess

    I am saying that the decision to select juror 8 is indicative of the (poor) job the (prosecution) lawyers did. Whether juror 8 came on TV and said that she thought Dunn was nice has nothing to do with the outcome of this case. If she had said that Dunn was a flaming racist, it would make no difference.

    I’m sure many arguments were presented in court to sway the jury, including the Defense making Dunn out to be a good guy. We don’t know what juror 8 heard in court to make her come to her opinion, thus we need to stop judging her. She did her job as best she could. If you have any beef, it should be with the prosecutors who ruined this case from jump.

    You can hate juror 8 if you want, but she is not the sole decision maker in this case, and her selection to be on this case was not even her decision. I’m sure she decided as best she could based on the facts presented in court. It’s really not her fault that the lawyers in this case sucked . By the way, she also has the right to her own opinion on Dunn whether we agree or not. The jury still brought down a 2nd degree and attempted murder decision. it’s not as if Dunn s getting off.

  • The Other Jess

    And again somehow a black girl again becomes the focus and blame in a case that had nothing to do with her. There are more articles on Clutch about Juror 8 than about the murderer Dunn, or even on Mr. Davis’ life and family.

  • http://www.clutchmagazine.com Clutch

    Not true The Other Jess — We have more articles on the Dunn and Davis case. Please do a search. This is only the second piece – and it’s an opinion piece.

    See here: http://www.clutchmagonline.com/?s=jordan+davis

    Thanks!

  • The Other Jess

    What does being attractive have to do with making a decision on a jury? Really??? It seems to me like juror 8 is not the only one whose intelligence might be in question, here.

  • Renee

    @Deidrah
    YES, This Case is about using Logic & Reason.. You are So Right!
    And Anyone who uses their Common
    sense, Logic & reasoning knows this:

    The Case was definitely about Race.
    Dunn is definitely Not a Nice man but a murderer.
    Juror #8 is definitely inarticulate, incompetent & the statements she made on National TV were Ridiculous & ignorant.
    Anyone Who tries to Pretend that those Facts are Not true is Definitely not using Their Common sense, reason & logic.
    Wake up Deidrah!!!

    Anyone who tries to “PretendNone of t

  • Yvette M.

    @The other Jess
    I could care less about this juror’s
    Appearance. Everyone is entitled to choose a hairstyle & have their own fashion.
    I believe what frustrates Most of us commenting on this site is this.
    When you are given an opportunity to be a Juror the Least you can do is Use your God given common sense.
    Every word out of this juror’s mouth showed how naive, stupid & ridiculous she was. With That kind of representation “as a black woman” on the jury, this case was bound to fail.
    Our frustration comes from Knowing that a young black teenager was killed & Justice was not served.

    Anyone who tries to “PretendNone of t

  • Ms Vee

    @The Other Jess

    You just don’t get it. No one is blaming her for the murder. We are disgusted with her nonchalance and ignorance towards the death of an innocent black life while being black herself. She was carefully handpicked to be the buffoon (and an ugly one at that) and played the part quite well. If you are more offended with people making fun of her inability to use the English language and a mirror more than the fact that justice was not served then something is deeply wrong with you….get help now.

Latest Stories

Watch: ‘Black People Mate’ a Parody About the Ridiculous Stats on Black Women & Dating

by

University President Under Fire for Wanting to Make School Less White In the Future

by

Taraji P. Henson Says European Men Are Less ‘Bitter’ and ‘Jaded’ Than American Men

by

Style Inspiration: Casual Work Outfits

by
More in Jordan Davis, juror # 8
Jordan-Davis-parents-620x412
Jordan Davis’ Parents Speaks Out About The Verdict

jordan-davis-1024x576
Michael Dunn Verdict: Florida Man Found Guilty Of Attempted Murder

Close