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An anonymous Oscar voter is causing a lot of controversy after some recent comments made to The Hollywood Reporter.  The woman, in an article for the publication, stated that not only did Selma not have ‘art to it’, but when the cast wore ‘I Can’t Breathe’ t-shirts, she found it offensive.

“When a movie about black people is good, members vote for it,” she said in an op-ed for The Hollywood Reporter.

“But if the movie isn’t that good, am I supposed to vote for it just because it has black people in it?” she asked.

And she didn’t stop there.

“What no one wants to say out loud is that Selma is a well-crafted movie, but there’s no art to it,” she said. “If the movie had been directed by a 60-year-old white male, I don’t think that people would have been carrying on about it to the level that they were.”

Carrying on, you say?

Then she went on to criticize the fact that the cast wore t-shirts in support of Eric Garner during their NYC screening.

“I thought that stuff was offensive. Did they want to be known for making the best movie of the year or for stirring up shit?” she asked.

Selma, which was nominated for two Oscars, has probably done more to expose the racism in Hollywood than any other movie, and that should definitely be applauded.

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  • Jacqueline

    Only hit dogs holler!

  • Kiah Gordon

    Of course that’s all they see. They see our actions as a result of but they never the source, the history and the true place it comes from, which is why they’ll never get it.

    • [email protected]

      Preach.

  • Mary Burrell

    “When the cast wore I can’t breathe tee-shirts she was offended” Why is she stirring up ish? GTFOH with that. Always some idiot starting something. She could have kept that.

  • [email protected]

    From the comments of the person, I have witnessed racism, white privilege, arrogance, and misconceptions about what Selma was all about. Many people have said that people cried when they watched Selma. So, the movie had a lot of art and emotion. The director of Selma never said that people should vote for the film, because black people are in it. She said that the film should be judged fairly and the anonymous Oscar voter is not the only person with such obtuse views. Actors and actresses wearing “I Can’t Breathe” T-shirts during the NYC screening is fine with me (which is part of the freedom of speech). That should never be a criterion on whether a movie should be voted on by the Oscars or not. One thing that I respect about the Black Lives Matter movement is that this movement can’t be completely contained by the establishment. Selma has been awarded by the Image Awards. We, as black people, don’t need token white validation. We should just express ourselves, promote excellence, and to oppose injustice (as liberty is always the path of righteousness).

    • millermp1

      I try mostly not to care, but it’s like that beggar banging his leprous alms bowl on my windshield as I commute to work – at some point you need to bring down the boot.

      Btw, people cried during Hitler’s speeches, too. In some of the footage, it’s like they’re at a Beatles concert, with girls throwing their soaked panties at the stage. People cried so it much have been good/artistic? What if a white director wore a shirt with Obama looking like a monkey? Would that “color” your assessment of the movie you’re voting on or would your respect for freedom of speech trump that?

      More broadly speaking, what is it with blacks that logical thinking can be so elusive?

    • [email protected]

      Black people have great logical thinking.

      That comment there shows your agenda completely. That bigoted comment from you is a shame. Obviously, I disagree with you.

      The movie Selma is no where similar to Hitler’s speeches. Anyone comparing an inspirational movie that teaches about LOVE to Hitler’s speeches is a wrong individual to put it lightly. The director was not trying to use racist invective or offensive T-Shirt. She was speaking her mind and she directed the movie Selma.

      The Oscar voter expressed ignorant statements and it has been called out by people. That is the fundamental point.

    • millermp1

      You need to connect the dots further. The view which many (not all, but many) blacks, and I’m assuming the director as well, share is that all short comings in the black community are attributable to one source: whites/racism.

      Whether or not a shirt is racist was besides the point, which was that what you think of someone’s position/belief/statement colors your judgement of their “art”.

      Note that in Hitlers speeches he was not talking about sending Jews up chimneys (even if he was thinking it) but the “love” of his country/people. I’m addressing the justification of “artists” to subvert indisputable facts and people defending it because it appeals to our “emotions” and it’s “entertainment,” etc.

      You’ve underscored my statement about logical thinking beautifully with the usual non sequiturs accompanied by handwaving and indignation.

    • [email protected]

      I have connected the dots for years.

      You are heavily mistaken. You have no evidence that the Director of Selma believes that all problems in the black community comes from white racism. It is true that white racism is a scourge. The system of white supremacy is the origin for much of the problems of the black community. That is a fact documented by black scholars and that fact is what you can’t refute. I will never be a reactionary like you. I believe in revolutionary solutions.

      The shirt is not racist. The point is that the Oscar voter used illogical in her views. Hitler was an evil man. His speeches described more than just jingoistic nationalism. His speeches blamed Jewish people collectively for the problems found in Germany. His speeches are filled with hate, paranoia, bigotry, and insanity. Mien Kampf showed Hitler’s views. I have respect for Hitler at all.

      You’ve underscored my perception of you. You use misinterpretations and other rhetoric, but black people will not accept your reactionary rhetoric. We, black people, will continue to abhor white supremacy and believe in social justice period.

    • millermp1

      “The shirt is not racist.”

      You keep talking to straw men of your own invention (note my comment on logical and non sequiturs). I never said it was racist.

      Scientists also document the genetic variations between races (e.g. MAO-A gene variations), differences in testosterone levels, etc. that can contribute to disparities in the racial achievement gap. But, like most people, you accept the science that is most agreeable (e.g. from your black scholars).

      The director not only manipulates facts (most do), but she turns LBJ into an antagonist when in fact he was one of MLKs biggest enablers. Why? Because she doesn’t want to be seen giving _any_ credit to a white person. Because this is about Blacks. Feeling aggrieved. Like Goebbels propagands, subtlety is the enemy.

      As far as the Black Struggle: more power to you. I truly wish you the best in that endeavor. I don’t like seeing high incarceration rates any more than the next guy. My problem is when you come around with that alms bowl insisting you’re owed something, e.g. an Oscar award, a lower bar for college admissions, that your progeny needs to be subsidized more than it already is (partly by virtue even being in this country, vs with your African cousins).

      So yes, by all means, Overcome. You can even come over here. But let’s stop the pretense that you’re owed something.

    • [email protected]

      I have used no straw man arguments.

      You have switched the subjects constantly. The point is about the words from the Oscar voter being wrong. You have not refuted my words about the Oscar voter, so you go off into a tangent and mention about Hitler and other subjects, which have nothing to with the Oscar controversy. Also, there are plenty of black people who are geniuses and there is no conclusive evidence that intelligence in test scores have totally a genetic component. Intelligence is a polygenetic trait. No one said that all people groups in the human family are identical genetically. This has nothing to do with the article. What is true that all modern human beings have an interesting history, and have the same human value. Strong intervention and other actions can improve communities irrespective of race. Also, people are fighting to reduce the achievement gap via strong curriculums, improved health, greater interventions, etc. It is a documented fact that some socioeconomic factors contribute to some of the problems in the black community. The director did not turn LBJ into an antagonist throughout the movie. She called him a reluctant hero. It is a historical fact that LBJ and Dr. King disagreed with certain tactics. LBJ before Selma supported segregationist legislation as a Congressman.

      Later, he supported the Voting Rights Act as President and he supported the imperialist Vietnam War. Dr. King and LBJ were once allies. Once Dr. King opposed the Vietnam War more overtly by 1967, then Dr. King was one of LBJ’s adversaries. The credit for Selma was never achieved by one white man. Selma is not perfectly historically accurate, but it is a greatly inspirational film. It is film filled with emotion, action, and power. The Voting Rights Act was achieved by the collaboration of numerous human beings. I agree with the black struggle for justice. The disparities found in the job market, the criminal justice system, etc. have nothing to do with human genetics. It has to do with systemic problems of institutionalized racism, the War on Drugs, economic oppression, and other problems (as documented by study after study. One study by a white person showed that job discrimination is real).

      Ava Duvernay never said that she was owed deification. She wanted fairness. The rest of your words have nothing to do with this issue, but it has to do with your reactionary views on race and society, which I don’t agree with. There are many black people who have great qualifications, have great careers, and are living their lives. That alone refutes your arguments.

      Your comments about Hitler, distortions, and lies (like saying that black people lack logical curiosity, which is a lie) are not logical. They are concretely illogical.

      Black people are owed respect. The lie of black inferiority is embraced by you. I reject the lie of white supremacy too. Black crime rates have declined since the 1970’s, black teenage pregnancy rates have declined since 1992, and more black women are owning businesses. Black people are owed dignity. Many black scholars are PhDs and are superb in their research, so your comments about them by you show your ignorance (and disrespect). I will always respect dedicated, and strong black scholars.

      Black people are owed not to be discriminated against and Black people are owed justice period. These are my last words to you.

    • millermp1

      “Black people are owed not to be discriminated against and Black people are owed justice period.”

      Couldn’t agree more.

      ” there is no conclusive evidence that intelligence in test scores have totally a genetic component”

      No one believes this and i doubt you can find anyone claiming this. But since you admit to the biodiversity in the human population, in order for complete equality to exist, the narrative requires that intelligence, especially between groups, has _zero_ genetic basis. This is an article of faith on the Left.

      “have nothing to do with human genetics”

      Would you say the same about the disparity in incarceration rates based on gender? That there are more males because of sexism? If not, why not?

      And why does it matter? Yes, the achievement gap has closed thanks to progress on race relations. But the assumption here is that until the gap closes completely, it’s the fault of whites/racism. Which takes us to Mugabe and the futility of scapegoating.

      And while we were having this debate, asians became the most affluent ethnic group in the country (household income per capita). Persumably they, like Jews, were not discriminated against (by whites)

  • millermp1

    So if i don’t spend money (or upvote) movies issuing from the Negro Aggrievement Complex, I’m “part of the problem?” I would say, like the white Zimbabwean farmers who have since been expropriated (coinciding nicely with around the time the country became a net importer of foods), “you’re welcome” for access to a gene pool that has at least mastered basic sanitation and literacy. In that context, slavery is a rather cheap price of admission.